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Posted by: Mitch.4781

Mitch.4781

Ok, while I have yet to fight them I’m intrigued to know all about them. According tow rite ups on reddit, most people seem to think the first boss is quite easy. What is his name?

The 2nd Boss is the Keep Construct which is moderate difficulty and the last is Xena..some sort of Golden Marrionette?

To those that have attempted or even downed some of the new bosses, what are your thoughts? How does this wing compare to the other two in terms of difficulty, dps requirements and mechanics?

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

I think first boss (escort+ mcLeod ) is like trio in difficulty but with more fun mechanics.

Need to kill the second one (keep construct), it seems require a lot of coordination maybe in a half way between VG and Sabetha like difficulty.

But it’s just an early feeling, need more practice and attempts.

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Posted by: Scipio.3204

Scipio.3204

I’ve only watched some stream, but the first boss looks compareable in difficulty to bandit trio. The second boss looked intresting, mostly mechanic gated, no high dps is required like gorse. I’d say it’s about as hard as sabetha. Can’t comment on xena yet

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Posted by: domness.6719

domness.6719

1st Encounter: Pretty easily, similar to Bandit Trio, perhaps feel a little better in terms of progression just as you’re moving through the map all the time, and if you’re DPS/movement is good then you can progress faster.

2nd Encounter (Keep Construct): Seems a relatively nice fight, mechanics are fine, not too hard at all really. Took us a LOT less time to get this done compared to say Sloth/VG. I’d say it’s probably the easiest boss so far.

2.5 (Twisted Castle): Took quite a while to actually understand this one as you have to do a lot of exploring, but when it’s learned it’s just about getting around, barely have to kill many things.

3rd Encounter: Only really touched on it, looks EPIC so far, in terms of mechanics, yet to spill the beans.

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Posted by: Ceriph.3518

Ceriph.3518

I feel like the second boss has a hit box issue with his mechanic to lower the Embrace buff

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Posted by: Oh Snapalope.1378

Oh Snapalope.1378

Keep construct has serious hitbox issues. Also it took my team about 1 hour to beat it, but the maze is ridiculous. 2 hours in and we are still stuck in the maze.

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Posted by: Mitch.4781

Mitch.4781

Keep construct has serious hitbox issues. Also it took my team about 1 hour to beat it, but the maze is ridiculous. 2 hours in and we are still stuck in the maze.

What do you mean hitbox issue?

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Posted by: Oh Snapalope.1378

Oh Snapalope.1378

Sometimes when you kill the white ghost even right on top of the boss, it won’t remove a stack.

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Posted by: TexZero.7910

TexZero.7910

Sometimes when you kill the white ghost even right on top of the boss, it won’t remove a stack.

Our group noticed this as well.

Another bug we noticed had to deal with the instance not properly resetting and him going instantly into colored ghost phase.

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

first boss is way easier than bandit trio

keep construct so far is harder than any other raid boss imo.

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Posted by: Oh Snapalope.1378

Oh Snapalope.1378

First boss is harder than bandit trio also more entertaining.

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

the first boss has no enrage timer and other than watching for warg spawns, has 0 risk in the entire run.

split up the group 3-7 (3 run mushroom cave and tower, 7 escort) and the entire thing is a joke.

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Posted by: Mitch.4781

Mitch.4781

the first boss has no enrage timer and other than watching for warg spawns, has 0 risk in the entire run.

split up the group 3-7 (3 run mushroom cave and tower, 7 escort) and the entire thing is a joke.

So could I create a pug group tonight and expect to get past the first boss/event?

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Posted by: valheru.7891

valheru.7891

the first boss has no enrage timer and other than watching for warg spawns, has 0 risk in the entire run.

split up the group 3-7 (3 run mushroom cave and tower, 7 escort) and the entire thing is a joke.

So could I create a pug group tonight and expect to get past the first boss/event?

depends? If everyone is running a proper build and you have a good setup then yes it’s possible. I advise you take 1 thief to the groop that goes trhough the mushroom cave for stealth. Makes it a lot easier. and have a druid take care of the npc you need to protect. Then it’s basically. Take a tower → deafeat the 2 wargs → move npc to the next white circle and repeat.

also when you took the npc all the way to the end and your fighting the boss. Just all stack just stack in the little courtyard below and the boss will go there. Don’t stay inside the towers.

ooh very important. watch out for the mines. they insta kill you. You can walk inside the white circle. This makes the mine vurnable to attacks and you can destroy the mine. But be aware that they respawn too

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Posted by: Absurdo.8309

Absurdo.8309

the first boss has no enrage timer and other than watching for warg spawns, has 0 risk in the entire run.

split up the group 3-7 (3 run mushroom cave and tower, 7 escort) and the entire thing is a joke.

So could I create a pug group tonight and expect to get past the first boss/event?

I wouldn’t call it a joke, but I formed a pug group and we did eventually beat the first boss.

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Posted by: Sird.4536

Sird.4536

Easiest wing out of the three.

Before anyone says, yes I have cleared it.

RP enthusiast

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

Sounds like the Lazarus speculation was way off?

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

the first boss has no enrage timer and other than watching for warg spawns, has 0 risk in the entire run.

split up the group 3-7 (3 run mushroom cave and tower, 7 escort) and the entire thing is a joke.

So could I create a pug group tonight and expect to get past the first boss/event?

Yes, once everyone knows what the event mechanics are (there aren’t very many), it runs pretty much like a medium difficulty Guild Wars 1 mission.

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Posted by: slashlizardy.9167

slashlizardy.9167

If it is the easier wing of the 3, why couldn’t Anet have started with this one?

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Posted by: Arden.7480

Arden.7480

Xera, the boss from Wing 3 Stronghold of the Faithful, said scary words:
“Lazarus will lead the White Mantle to rule a new Kryta, and there’s nothing you can do to stop His return.”
Lazarus is/was Mursaat from White Mantle. Can I say that he still alive? These words are very suspicious. What do you think about this?

“The Elder Dragon is no more”

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Xera believes he/it’s still alive, at least.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

It isnt anything unexpected. Lazarus escaped in GW1 prophesing his return and some doom of Kryta. It was only a matter of time before he returned to the franchise in some way. Speculation off his involvement with the raid has been well documented.

We killed hundreds of Mursaat in GW1, he’s welcome to return for another kicking

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Posted by: Walhalla.5473

Walhalla.5473

Easier? Well the first Encouter is Easy but try Keep Construct, this Thing is a Coordination and Awareness Check stacked with a CC Check in the Football Phase. I would say that Keep Construct is somewhere between Sabetha and Matthias in terms of Difficulty.

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Posted by: Mitch.4781

Mitch.4781

So I did the first boss last night, but didn’t beat the keep construct yet. Still, it’s an interesting alternative to the other wings.

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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

The first boss is a smart move from Anet to entroduce basically an “entry level raid boss for new players”, I don’t think is a coincidence there is no timer, so I think is a good boss to let new people approach raids.

For veteran is like a warmup, just a relaxed boss with fun mechanics.

The KC requires a lot of coordination, I think the difficulty is between Sabetha and Matthias, but it depends on Strategy, if you learn to kill projections really quick + fast CC the entire run not hard but you need to stay focus.

I dunno Xera, I need to kill her