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There’s a bit of a difference be elitist and running an efficient build for PvE dungeons.
Think of it this way, if I just joined your WvW guild and told you’re leadership that I want to run a full glass cannon build/gear on the frontline, would they advise me against that? Are they being elitist if they do advise me away from that to something that stands a chance of living for more then 6 seconds? I would say no, they are being veterans in their field (WvW) and guiding me as a newcomer to what works best.
That said, cleric/shoutheal war is not an efficient build for dungeons and any of the veterans in this forum are going to want to lead you to what works best (the berserker builds) to have a smooth dungeon running experience.
So, if you’re willing to change your build and get new gear (which will be easy through CoF and CoE), then I’m am sure there are plenty of people on this forum that would love to help you and teach you how to live using such an offensive build.
But, if you want to be an elitist about your build/gear and claim you don’t need to change it, I doubt you will find the party you are looking for here.
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There’s a bit of a difference be elitist and running an efficient build for PvE dungeons.
Think of it this way, if I just joined your WvW guild and told you’re leadership that I want to run a full glass cannon build/gear, would they advice me against that? Are they being elitist if they do advice me away from that to something that stands a chance of living for more then 6 seconds? I would say no, they are being veterans in their field (WvW) and guiding me as a newcomer to what works best.
That said, cleric/shoutheal war is not an efficient build for dungeons and any of the veterans in this forum are going to want to lead you to what works best (the berserker builds) to have smooth dungeon running experience.
So, if you’re willing to change your build and get new gear (which will be easy through CoF and CoE), then I’m am sure there are plenty of people on this forum that would love to help you and teach you how to live using such an offensive build.
But, if you want to be an elitist about your build/gear and claim you don’t need to change it, I doubt you will find the party you are looking for here.
Very well said. And polite.
Other thing I might say, if you can’t find anyone here, pugging is a good way to meet new people and friends. 66% of the time you’ll meet people you’ll never ever want to run with again! but the rest of the time you have opportunities to make a lot of friends! and thus a larger dungeon group pool for when you feel like doing them.
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And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
Oh, you should also indicate if you’re on an NA or EU server.
Could you explain what means “healing power DPS”? Can you deal holy damage to undead?
Could you explain what means “healing power DPS”? Can you deal holy damage to undead?
Does this.. Does this rival the druid build?
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I would love to run some dungeons with you, Fade, especially THE NEW TA-AETHERBLADE.
It’s a pitty you deleted the video <3
But on a serious note, listen to durend. He’s right.
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Does this.. Does this rival the druid build?
Holy hell! NO!
You don’t want to change gear to elitist suggestions but you are willing to change your sleep schedule?
You don’t want to change gear to elitist suggestions but you are willing to change your sleep schedule?
He hasn’t said he is unwilling to change yet. Only said what he is currently using.
Olive branch is out there so to speak, we just need to wait to see if he accepts it.
Haha i never said i wouldn’t change my build and i’ve run Full zerker before Just this is the best build i’ve found the damage isn’t amazing like a zerker but i can also take lots of damage and heal fast while adding 150 power with trait healing conditions applying conditions and still deal average 2.3k crit (almost every hit) with spamming number 1 i could change my build. and by elitist as i mentioned the attitude Not veterans i mean really mad kids that get mad over every single thing and got off their corker.
as i’ve said i could change to full zerker But then the guard in the group would have to able to take all the agro making sure i don’t go down costing me money on repairs. (as you know zerkers go down all the time)
Oh btw i welcome any build in WvW to me having a good guard and a zerker in WvW is a boss team!
Also if you didn’t notice my bad english NA servers xD
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Zerkers don’t go down that much in good groups. Also aggro mechanics are not based on defense except ettins maybe.
Lol i must have just been lacking on a good group but that’s ok, i’d be fine with changing to full zerker I don’t plan to spend much of my money i’m saving for Gem store items for my alts so i’d be able to farm CoF and CoE each a day to get the Parts for it.
if i had to compare its the clerics/pvt that are constantly downed because they dont dodge while berserkers teaches you to dodge
Lol that’s why this works for me cause i use to run zerker that way i know if ur stamina bar is 50% full it’s 50% to much i don’t think i’ve been downed in PvE in a while now… either way i found the zerker set i’m going to get probs takes 3-4 days to get it maybe a week but then i’ll be back to full zerker so PvE people can be happy. even tho no one is a dungeons has complained about my build.
Haha i never said i wouldn’t change my build and i’ve run Full zerker before Just this is the best build i’ve found the damage isn’t amazing like a zerker but i can also take lots of damage and heal fast while adding 150 power with trait healing conditions applying conditions and still deal average 2.3k crit (almost every hit) with spamming number 1 i could change my build.
I’m not a big WvWer, but those are probably pretty decent there. In PvE however the norm for wars is 4~6k.
So in dungeons when the differance between berserker and soliders is being able to take 1-2 hits and 3-4 hits, the best way to stay alive is learning to read the boss and dodge the attacks.
Once you’ve learned that, there is no reason not to go full offensive, as the quicker you make the fight go, the less chance you have of making a mistake.
and by elitist as i mentioned the attitude Not veterans i mean really mad kids that get mad over every single thing and got off their corker.
Here’s the issue. The people that I said that would love to help are the same people that “get mad over every single thing”. They weren’t at first, but they are now.
They’ve been making guides showing their builds, how to clear dungeons and proof that their builds are the ones doing it more efficiently then anyone else. Then 90% of the time when they try to help people, they get it shoved in their face and the person telling them they’ll do what they want anyway.
I’m still somewhat new to the forums, but if I had been posting here since release and had nearly everyone I try to help ignore me and tell me my advice is terrible, I’d end up getting mad over everything too.
as i’ve said i could change to full zerker But then the guard in the group would have to able to take all the agro making sure i don’t go down costing me money on repairs. (as you know zerkers go down all the time)
Aggro really can’t be controlled. A good guard isn’t going to keep you alive through tanking, but by spamming blinds, putting up reflects, curing conditions and supplying boons.
Lol i must have just been lacking on a good group but that’s ok, i’d be fine with changing to full zerker
It’s partially the group and partially personal experience on knowing when/what to dodge. A full berserker party is going to end most encounters very quickly, thus you don’t have as much time to make mistakes.
But once you get familar with the content and being more fragile it is very possible to play full berserker in pugs. Til that time, using knights gear is very healthy to use in pugs. It lets you take a few hits so you’re not face planting a lot, but it’s fragile enough that it forces you to learn when to dodge while still supplying respectable damage.
Once you get comfortable with knights (aka can dodge everything you need to), then it’s time to move up to berserker, as there is no reason not to at that point, and it just makes the fights quicker → less time to make mistakes.
I don’t plan to spend much of my money i’m saving for Gem store items for my alts so i’d be able to farm CoF and CoE each a day to get the Parts for it.
SE is nice and quick to get some knights if you want to start there. CoF and CoE are also nice and quick when you’re ready for berserker. Ruby orbs work well enough in the armor, so you don’t have to spend much money there. The biggest expense would be either buying exotic berserker trinkets or getting the ascended ones.
Lol that’s why this works for me cause i use to run zerker that way i know if ur stamina bar is 50% full it’s 50% to much i don’t think i’ve been downed in PvE in a while now… either way i found the zerker set i’m going to get probs takes 3-4 days to get it maybe a week but then i’ll be back to full zerker so PvE people can be happy. even tho no one is a dungeons has complained about my build.
Most pugs don’t complain about builds unless there are multiple wipes or specific things were requested in the LFG posting.
You’re talking about forming an organised group for smooth runs. Look at the videos here. Yes these are the records for each of the paths, but I can also say that when I sit down with an organised group I’ll rarely take much more then a minute or two over the clear times you see here. Compared to the double or triple amount of time I can end up taking with a pug.
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When I check my deaths and age, it basically says I die more than 1 time every hour I play. This is actually because when I first started my ele, I was in clerics, and I tried to heal the damage rather than dodge it, and then I used VPT and I died because I took damage that I shouldn’t have taken.
Since I got the zerker gear I’m much more alert when I play. I don’t die as much, but I still go down, but the damage I do actually helps me rally more I so than in the other armors.
In groups, I find that while my friends in soldiers and clerics gear take the agro, and I’m able to damage the boss, it would go much quicker if we were all beating the heck out of the boss instead of just one or two people actually making dents in the health pools.
Now, granted, I’m a sucky player, but I find that no one complains when I use fgs and lh for massive damage, but if they’re typical pugs they get mad if I do go downed, once I’m out of stamina and evades. Pugs are silly. It’s a tough gig.
Having a couple sets of gear is a good idea, I think. If you’re in a pug that’s getting kitten y about you going down, switch gear, never die, but never do anything for them, either.
Always makes me smile.
[ARES]
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.
Healing power gear is really bad for pve. When i started playing my warrior i used soldier gear with clerics trinkets, and pve looked much more difficult. Events like the Lyssa temple felt much more difficult because i couldnt kill mobs fast enough, farming mobs was more difficult too.
When i first equipped a berserker set the difference i felt was huge, those undeads that i thought were OP started to get killed pretty fast, i could even solo some of those events near Lyssa where you need to protect the npcs so they can drop the Lyssa’s shield.
When you stop using healing power you will see how weak it is, healing power is not even a main stats, its a sub-stats like boon duration etc.
When I check my deaths and age, it basically says I die more than 1 time every hour I play.
Deaths include deaths from PvP, WvW, probably even minigame activities. Take that figure with a grain of salt.
When I check my deaths and age, it basically says I die more than 1 time every hour I play.
Deaths include deaths from PvP, WvW, probably even minigame activities. Take that figure with a grain of salt.
SAB trib mode :P
Oh I have to play with a mic!? And only heavy classes!? I play how I want, get out of here you filthy elitist scumbag.
Uriel Asther ~ Warrior | Kaya Lereau ~ Elementalist | Natalie Fox ~ Thief
Skye Eterna ~ Mesmer | Arya Slade ~ Charrdian | Kiera Thine ~ Ranger
Oceanic ~ [LOD] [Noob]
Skye Eterna ~ Mesmer | Arya Slade ~ Charrdian | Kiera Thine ~ Ranger
Oceanic ~ [LOD] [Noob]
Oh I have to play with a mic!? And only heavy classes!? I play how I want, get out of here you filthy elitist scumbag.
O.o oh sorry i didn’t mean to sound that way, the mic is for communication because it’s easier than typing in chat and i don’t think i ever mentioned anything about heavy classes the first classes i mentioned had 2 that take a bit of damage if they get hit and that was only suggestive classes.
And as for gear i already know my old pure zerker off by heart and already had the exotic trinks and rare backpieces all zerker and all with zerker components in them that’s what gives my current class most of it’s damage the rest comes from traits but The also the reason i thought it’s take a couple days instead of buying it because i only ever play exotics (lvling my fractles atm to get ASC stuff) but yeah i can change to full zerker and if you’re one of the people that get really mad in all the time i’m sorry but i don’t want to run with you we wouldn’t make any mistakes therefore you wouldn’t get mad but when i was new to guild wars (just hitting 80) those people did nothing but yell at you for every mistake when it’s your first time in the dungeon without even telling you what to do.
And as for gear i already know my old pure zerker off by heart and already had the exotic trinks and rare backpieces all zerker and all with zerker components in them that’s what gives my current class most of it’s damage the rest comes from traits but The also the reason i thought it’s take a couple days instead of buying it because i only ever play exotics (lvling my fractles atm to get ASC stuff) but yeah i can change to full zerker and if you’re one of the people that get really mad in all the time i’m sorry but i don’t want to run with you we wouldn’t make any mistakes therefore you wouldn’t get mad but when i was new to guild wars (just hitting 80) those people did nothing but yell at you for every mistake when it’s your first time in the dungeon without even telling you what to do.
I have never personally seen anyone get made at someone new to a dungeon path UNLESS they don’t speak up at the beginning and say they are new to the path. People always think they can get by without saying something, but often times there is at least one spot that you can tell they have never been there before.
Oh I have to play with a mic!? And only heavy classes!? I play how I want, get out of here you filthy elitist scumbag.
O.o oh sorry i didn’t mean to sound that way, the mic is for communication because it’s easier than typing in chat and i don’t think i ever mentioned anything about heavy classes the first classes i mentioned had 2 that take a bit of damage if they get hit and that was only suggestive classes.
Hes just joking dont worry about it. This subforum has seen alot of kitten from people who come here for help and then tell us to screw ourselves cos they ‘play how they want’
EDIT: Listen to Durend hes giving pretty solid advice.
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Oh I have to play with a mic!? And only heavy classes!? I play how I want, get out of here you filthy elitist scumbag.
O.o oh sorry i didn’t mean to sound that way, the mic is for communication because it’s easier than typing in chat and i don’t think i ever mentioned anything about heavy classes the first classes i mentioned had 2 that take a bit of damage if they get hit and that was only suggestive classes.
Hes just joking dont worry about it. This subforum has seen alot of kitten from people who come here for help and then tell us to screw ourselves cos they ‘play how they want’
EDIT: Listen to Durend hes giving pretty solid advice.
Than, lol i have been i already figured he knew what he knew (Durend) was talking about and already got a few parts for my zerker set by spamming dungeons as for "looking for help’ i only came here to get a dungeon team i don’t need help with anything i just know a friend who has a well oiled team that clears dungeons fast as chuck norris. so i thought it’d be cool to get 1 of those i think she uses 2 warriors (zerkers) a mes, a guard and a thief. i’ll see if i can’t record an AC path run and show you my play style so you have a better idea of how i run. and if i run dungeons wrong you can give me tips on what to do to make it better (advice to become stronger is always welcome for me)
Out of curiousity are you more interested in dungeons or WvW
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Out of curiousity are you more interested in dungeons or WvW
I’ve never really liked player vs player in any MMO i really just play it for Achives and ven tho i’m good at WvW i’d choose a dungeon over it any day.
Sorry, when it comes to this forum I have to laugh to stop myself from crying.
In all seriousness your best bet is to apply to a more dungeon orientated guild and try to make yourself known so when people are forming runs, you’ll be on the list of players they ask. Sometimes this is easier said than done because most regular players don’t venture outside their regular groups unless absolutely necessary.
Off the top of my head you’ve got DnT and LoD in NA (I’m Australian myself) but to be honest I’m not too sure what the requirements are to get in anymore… I’m sure there’s other PvE guilds out there but these are the ones I recognise from NA around the forums.
Uriel Asther ~ Warrior | Kaya Lereau ~ Elementalist | Natalie Fox ~ Thief
Skye Eterna ~ Mesmer | Arya Slade ~ Charrdian | Kiera Thine ~ Ranger
Oceanic ~ [LOD] [Noob]
Skye Eterna ~ Mesmer | Arya Slade ~ Charrdian | Kiera Thine ~ Ranger
Oceanic ~ [LOD] [Noob]
Sorry, when it comes to this forum I have to laugh to stop myself from crying.
In all seriousness your best bet is to apply to a more dungeon orientated guild and try to make yourself known so when people are forming runs, you’ll be on the list of players they ask. Sometimes this is easier said than done because most regular players don’t venture outside their regular groups unless absolutely necessary.
Off the top of my head you’ve got DnT and LoD in NA (I’m Australian myself) but to be honest I’m not too sure what the requirements are to get in anymore… I’m sure there’s other PvE guilds out there but these are the ones I recognise from NA around the forums.
Thanx I’ll just do that.
If youre interested in finding a pve guild you can try out for [Only] the guild im in if you want to =P (shameless self promotion for the win!) We’re in NA, mainly BG but no required server I believe.
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And as for gear i already know my old pure zerker off by heart and already had the exotic trinks and rare backpieces all zerker and all with zerker components in them that’s what gives my current class most of it’s damage the rest comes from traits but The also the reason i thought it’s take a couple days instead of buying it because i only ever play exotics (lvling my fractles atm to get ASC stuff) but yeah i can change to full zerker and if you’re one of the people that get really mad in all the time i’m sorry but i don’t want to run with you we wouldn’t make any mistakes therefore you wouldn’t get mad but when i was new to guild wars (just hitting 80) those people did nothing but yell at you for every mistake when it’s your first time in the dungeon without even telling you what to do.
I have never personally seen anyone get made at someone new to a dungeon path UNLESS they don’t speak up at the beginning and say they are new to the path. People always think they can get by without saying something, but often times there is at least one spot that you can tell they have never been there before.
Pretending to know the dungeon is how I really learned most of the dungeons. Just reading wiki and watching youtube videos before because I didn’t want to be a big burden to everybody. Then I just did what everyone else did. Only one guy noticed in COE because I kinda failed to dodge Alpha sometimes while getting used to counting.