Lupicus-no energy sigil possible?

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Posted by: Vlad.1739

Vlad.1739

I recently started solo attempts on GL with my warrior. I am poor from moving to EU, I do not want to spend cash on energy sigils and new weapons. specially if I do not have.

Other than my first question I need the following information

1) I can beat phase 1 somewhat consistently by using axe/sword purely, I have shield in the other set if i need it. I dance around him in the middle of the map, I build endurance with eviscerate. That is enough to to go into phase two. I hate using GS I would like to avoid using it if i can.

2) Phase 2 transition I get hit by grub no matter what, GL always eats it before i can kill it what are some strategies to get the grub killed? there are always a few locust left over I need to dps Ive been popping endure pain and attempting to dps everything at transition.

3) I have been dodging backwards in phase 2 because its easier, my 5 button mouse broke a few years ago and using v sucks. Should I dodge into him because sometimes I get hit by snot for being to far.

4) when I am under GL for snot rain, I get gibbed without realizing sometimes might be ping I am not sure, is there pattern I can follow to compensate for and pre-dodge/block.

5) I have not reached phase 3 yet, should I just take a GS for phase 3 to leave life drain zone without spending dodges or will i be fine with sword/shield offhand with axe main hand.

Thank you for your advice

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Posted by: Ethics.4519

Ethics.4519

I can’t really answer all your questions, as I main a mesmer, and haven’t tried soloing him…. yet.

3) I believe a double dodge is sufficient. I would dodge back one and forward one, or vice versa, just so you don’t get too far away.

4) His tell for the “snot rain” is he grabs his chest. He bends forward a little bit and clutches his chest with both hands, crossing his arms.

5) I think the block on the shield will work for the aoe life drain. I’ve heard of warriors taking the 25% speed inc with melee weapon so they can get out faster.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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“snot rain” I will be using that term from now on.

I really wouldnt recommend using shield because of the block cd. GS is kind of a must if you arent going for energy sigils.

You can just ignore the grub. Just take dolyak signet and use stability and run away when phase switches (can deselect lupi and use rush away from him) then use 100b or eviscerate to burst the grub down. Or you can just use the stunbreak and not worry about killing the grub. Running away to kill it can be pretty risky at times.

For snot rain you should dodge backwards and then use sword block while being just out of melee range. You can also dodge backwards and ww forwards or dodge backwards then forwards (brief pause b4 dodging the second time).

One dodge and the sword block is also all you need for the aoe lifedrain, just make sure you get back to him as quick as possible without getting knocked back when he lands. WW is nice for that too.

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Posted by: Vlad.1739

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I am aware of the heart attack he has before he uses his snot rain. I was looking for something more specific like 4 snot throws, swipe, then snot rain. In my time fighting GL I pre dodge every attack because I know it is coming I want to take as much “reflexing” from the winning equation as possible. If i had zero ping this would be non issue but it is. If anyone can elaborate on that and impart some knowledge about phase 3 targeted life drain skill, I may have all the required knowledge to win.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Its all rng based so you wont be able to rely on a pattern. You should be able to guess when hes about to do certain moves with experience though.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

Anicetus.1253

The only tip i will give you is to use both, energy sigil and greatsword.
Energy sigil on axe or sword makes it much easier to survive, even without bursting.
Greatsword because it adds like 30% (?) dps and you get Whirlwind Attack which is just too good to not have.

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Posted by: Vlad.1739

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I decided to take GS for whirlwind, you are right too good pass on it. Spoj I actually noticed a pattern in phase 2 I got GL down to 50%. I just want to know If I will need an energy sigil vs phase 3 if I have GS. Maybe one day soon I will have screen of GL Cold Dead really dead corpse.

You are right that GL does not follow any specific pattern. He does have what seems to be cool downs on his skills. He will usually use skills when they are off cool down after auto attack snot throw chain. So it is now much easier for me. For the transition i endure pain grub and locust, I just hope phase 3 is easy.

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

Havent solo’d Lupi…. yet.

It can be done without energy sigils and or greatsword, so have faith.

Option:

Go ahead and take greatsword into he learning stages of the fight, think of whirling wrath as a does damage, free dodge.

Also, again for learning stages. check into “orian truffle and beef stew” Might on dodge and 40% endurance regen.

Took both of these for my “training” on soloing. Per Sandorino’s suggestion awhile back with the legendary archdeviner.

Just an idea to help you mitigate som of the process while you are looking at other things. and hopefully b able to get you to a point you can do it with your preferred state.

Edit: looks like you beat me to it by a few moments Check into the Orrian Truffle and beef stew it may help with your endurance and afford you the option to remove the greatsword and again attempt it at your preferred weapon set.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

Anicetus.1253

It can be done without energy sigils and or greatsword, so have faith.

Did anyone ever do a lupicus solo without greatsword and no energy sigil as a warrior?

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Posted by: SkyChef.5432

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He could burn your 6 dodges, blocks within 40s (Life Drains, Life Drinks & AoE Blast). Dodges & WA 10s CD, Off hand block 15s, Shield #5 30s and Endure Pain 60s. When you come into p3 w/o your full set of escaped skills (w/o sigil of energy), your prob will die. If you pass the 1st round of attacks, the 2nd round will have you short of Endure Pain (counted as 2 def skills).

People are too serious of their knowledge.

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

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If you push him around constantly between attacks perfectly, he will only use single target drains and aoe drains. Single target drain should cooldown before you regenerate even half of your endurance, but given he kitten s while pushing and slight cast delays and you eviscerate off cd, you should have enough endurance for a second dodge after the first one you gain from eviscerate.

AoE drains are harder, they cooldown before any of your blocks, you could block first three with sword-shield-sword, but after that you’d need to use adrenalin surge to stay alive.

All of this defeats any purpose of the whole effort. Just use greatsword and energy sigil.

edit: wait, I actually didn’t think of the energy regenerating during the AoE. That might ease the pressure and complicate the calculations, but this still should require redundant amount of eviscerating and survivability gearing/utilising.

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Posted by: Vlad.1739

Vlad.1739

I got him down to about 50% today. Judging based on the advice, I should get an energy sigil. Things for me going to be get busy so I do not know when I will try next but one day I may win. I have been thinking also, it is going to really suck having to fight GL p1-2 all the time once I master p2. It becomes mentally fatiguing doing something just to get to do something else.

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Posted by: Dolan.3071

Dolan.3071

You should ask SynSity how much gold he spent on weapons and sigils (and repairs) just for soloing Lupi.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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@OP: Come on. Getting an energy sigil isn’t that costly… Run Arah p2 ONCE and you can already put in a buy order for the sigil. Plus you can treat it as minor training for lupi.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

Anicetus.1253

You should ask SynSity how much gold he spent on weapons and sigils (and repairs) just for soloing Lupi.

He might be the only one to compete with me. And i spent over 1500g on Lupicus.

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

TKiller.6829

You should ask SynSity how much gold he spent on weapons and sigils (and repairs) just for soloing Lupi.

He might be the only one to compete with me. And i spent over 1500g on Lupicus.

I am not sure I comprehend.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Im assuming some of that cost is from ascended weapons. If not then wtf dub!

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Im assuming some of that cost is from ascended weapons. If not then wtf dub!

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It’s a ‘Dub’ number. You have to divide it by 100 then multiply by pi.

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Im assuming some of that cost is from ascended weapons. If not then wtf dub!

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It’s a ’Dub’ number. You have to divide it by 100 then multiply by pi.

You finally found the encryption formula.

Anyway, 100g alone on Food (100Prec/Power + 10% Crit).
50g per character equipment (armor, trinkets, weapons). One Warrior, Necro, Ranger, Engineer, Thief exist because of Lupicus. Also 80g per character for crafting.
Three ascended weapons (~120g each). 250g for weaponsmith to 500.
Repair costs, practising time. kittened stuff like our play how we want lupi (guardian+ele with clerics and knights and condition set on ele) with about 150g total.
Condition set for second warrior, new equipment about 50g again. Condition stuff on thief for 25g (karma armor).
~50g on other consumables. Some gold for build changes. 290g for reaching him faster.
Buying a full set of Corrupted Weapons (for a lupi solo video) and to be exact even my twilight was mainly because of Twilight Lupi solo.
Oh. Also other ascended trinkets. 50 fractal runs bought for 7-8g on average.

@Spoj: Cute, thats just a tenth of mine .

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

Your prices for things are a little off. I’ll have to figure out the ‘Dub’ formula for item costs, but that might take me a while.

I’m thinking something like x/y^pi*10.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

Anicetus.1253

Formula changes ob item rarity. Specify what items you’re talking about and i might give you some hints.

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Posted by: Syn Sity.5826

Syn Sity.5826

You should teach a class on Dub formulas.

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Posted by: Jon.3752

Jon.3752

In the phase 2 transition you’ll always get hit by a grub. Just run away from him so you get knocked down out of range of him, then kill it when you get back up. If he consumes it, it’s not the BIGGEST deal.

The most consistent methods for dodging his frenzied blast in phase 2 I’ve found is dodging backwards and using sword #5, and if that’s on cooldown, dodging backwards and using GS #3 into him. If both of those abilities are down somehow, dodge backwards and then dodge back into him.

All of his animations just take practice to get used to. Watch some solo videos and make notes of what animations he does while he’s using an ability.

A good way to get out of his AoE in phase 3 is to dodge away to avoid the first tick, then use GS #3 away to avoid the second tick, then come back in after it ends. And even though you don’t like using greatsword, I think you should definitely consider using it for this boss. Having that extra dodge is great against him.

Good luck!

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Posted by: Dolan.3071

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Really puts a singular Energy Sigil into perspective doesn’t it

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Posted by: Strontius.6478

Strontius.6478

There’s a lot of RNG when fighting lupi (ex. his order of attacks, necrid barrage p2 is hard to consistently dodge due to the blast radius of each projectile, hidden projectiles, etc.) so I’d highly recommend having a sigil of energy to be safe.
Although it probably isn’t needed if you’re an amazing player.

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Posted by: Agony.3542

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I guess you can somehow kill GL without either GS or Sigil of Energy. But your kill will be a lot worse compared to a setup with the above, mainly because you just will have to resort to different builds, for example faster adrenaline gain for more eviscerates, gaining back endurance by using your f1.

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Posted by: Vlad.1739

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The game must be telling me to use an energy sigil. It dropped me one from fractals lol. I will try my hand at lupi again after I craft an ascended mace and use my fractal sword with energy sigil. Once again thx everyone for your input.

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Posted by: Jon.3752

Jon.3752

The game must be telling me to use an energy sigil. It dropped me one from fractals lol. I will try my hand at lupi again after I craft an ascended mace and use my fractal sword with energy sigil. Once again thx everyone for your input.

Good luck man! I’ve soloed him a few times on warrior so you can whisper me anytime if you need some help.

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