Guild Wars 2

I’m honestly not a fan of the “player surprise” Reddit posts when it comes to stuff like this. HoT has been ground out for 8 months now, and so have raids, but players have been left directionless when it comes to legendary armor.

Given the above, I think it would be nice to know what to prepare for and achieve as far as materials are concerned. So can we make this happen?

Edit- This is a pretty hefty list of stuff below if true. If we are going to x6 stuff this will be quite a feat in addition to the time of doing raids. Gift of Battle vendor was also removed so that means reward track x6 in wvw… Most of these items could have been known to players so they could have spent the past 8 months preparing.

Speculations from Reddit…

https://m.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4o3bqp/discovered_one_of_the_recipes_for_legendary_armor/

“If this is right, then we may need 90 mystic clovers, 6 each of Gift of Condensed Might and Condensed Magic, as well as the 6 Gifts of Craftsmanship. It seems a little steep on the crafting mats, but who knows.

Note: Although it says that it’s a match, pressing “Forge” gives the animation of forging, but doesn’t create any results. Either we’re not intended to craft it yet, or it’s bugged.

I haven’t found anything that mixes with the Legendary Insights, so I’d love to hear people’s thoughts!"

“Not sure how they are tied, but these are the items required for each piece of legendary armor (subject to change): 1x Gift of Condensed Might 1x Gift of Condensed Magic 15x Mystic Clover 15x Chak Egg 15x Auric Ingot 15x Reclaimed Metal 25x Legendary Insight 1x Gift of Craftsmanship 1x Gift of the Pack 3x Cube of Stabilized Dark Energy 1x Eldricht Scroll”

“idea what a “Gift of the Pack” is? Edit: Just checked what I have, and the plates/ingots/eggs combine, as do the Dark Energy/Insights/Eldritch Scroll."

Well if those are the actual recipes that is quite a staggering list for legendary armor. I guess ANet thought it had become too easy to make legendaries?

https://i.imgur.com/IV8e34D.jpg

Hey guys,

first of all, my sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4o9ol4/what_we_know_about_the_legendary_armor_so_far/

It’s unclear wether will we be able to craft each individual piece or we have to craft the whole, (my guess is the latter), but here are the informations the redditors collected about the price of Legendary Armor so far.

You are not able to finish it yet, because the second collection is halfway locked, but we know the most things that will be needed. I think the most intresting part is 25 LI /each

so 150 / 9 LI = 16 weeks of doing the 9 bosses and then one week of just doing 6 per armor set. not too bad

Having to kill every single raid boss every single week for 4 months seems excessive.
And considering the trouble most folk doing the raids have finding groups that can consistently kill raid bosses 150 LI is just a joke.The bar is set way to high for MR average raider.
Anet lock the average player out of legendary armour buy putting it behind raids then put it out the reach of the average raider with this 150 legendary insights crap.

It sounds like a lot, but legendary anything is a long term goal, and one day I am sure we’ll have so many Li’s people on the forums will be moaning about bag space.

I’m perfectly fine with this. Seems like a very decent cap.
Since it will be more time till legendary armor will come you can fill your missing LI.

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

I’m perfectly fine with the legendary insights requirement as it is something I naturally get while doing the thing I love : raiding.

I’m way more worried about all the other ridiculous and boring requirement that we might get. For example, provisionner tokens!?

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

They said it would be comparable, not that it would cost less. And it is comparable. An ascended weapon costs ~100g, while a legendary weapon costs 3000g. An ascended set of armor costs ~500g so the comparable legendary armor should cost ~12000g. The price is less than 12000g so seems like a bargain to me.

Its looking like the whole thing will cost 4000-5000g which seems pretty reasonable for an entire set of legendary armor.

They said comparable to a legendary weapon,as in cost about the same.
And i see now were some of you guys that have cleared all the raid bosses since day one are coming from,raise that bar higher 150 is not enough.set it so high only 1% of the 5% that raid can get that legendary armour.

Gudradain.3892:

I’m perfectly fine with the legendary insights requirement as it is something I naturally get while doing the thing I love : raiding.

I’m way more worried about all the other ridiculous and boring requirement that we might get. For example, provisionner tokens!?

You should look at the list and start farming.

Well, considering you need minimum 8 weeks to get the fractal legendary backpack, 4 months + for a full Legendary armor doesn’t sound so bad.

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

It still is.

150 LIs are perfectly fine.
People that started to raid with the goal of getting the armor as soon as possible already have over 100 LIs. Others that came in later like me should admit that we are a little bit “behind”. But there is no doubt that those who want will catch up easily.

But even for raid/armor beginners it’s not very extensive because there are some easy-to-get-LIs like VG, Trio and the Glenna event. You don’t have to learn very much to accomplish these.
Gorseval and Slothasor are also not very hard to pug if you have a decent knowledge and experience of them.
This equals to 5 puggable, unproblematic LIs per week and in all 30 weeks for the whole thing.
Seems fine for a legendary armor. And still, if you want to achieve it earlier, you can go for it in 17 weeks from this day on.

I think 150 is too much given the rate at which they’re obtained. The time gate on legendary armor is massive in comparison to any other legendary anything currently, and it doesn’t make sense for it to be. Four months of killing every single raid boss is simply more than is reasonable, especially in comparison with the month time gate on Gifts of Craftsmanship.

150 is just to big a hurdle to someone just starting out and learning the mechanics.
just the thought of failing over and over finally to kill raid boss to then have to do it again every week for four months will put people off even trying.

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

So?
We don’t know what else will be used. Maybe there’s no amalgamated gemstones added? Not to mention that we seemingly don’t have to pay for upgrading the precursor-armor yet, which is where roughly half the costs go for the new legendaries. You can kitten about the price once all the recipes are out, everyone knows exactly what’s necessary and the prices stabilized after the initial rush.

As for the amount of LIs required, this seems absolutely fine. Yes, it does take some time, but you don’t need 150 LI or you can’t craft it; you’re free to craft the pieces one by one or even skip some. Also, as we’re getting more raids in the future, I’m pretty sure acquisition will get easier and easier in the long run.

150 sounds perfect to me
It should be really difficult and time consuming to get legendary items, the current legendaries are all too easy to get

The time it takes to find a group every week then the constant fails and people leaving the group and replacing them,ye if you got yourself a nice premade its reasonable,if your one of the many stuck puging it reasonable isnt the word id use.

I’m on the camp that feels 150 LI for the full set is a bit too many.
4 months time gate is quite a lot imo. I think 20 per piece (which totals to 120) would be more okay, since that’d make it a 3 month gate instead of 4. Note that provisioner tokens has a timegate of around 1 month.

Or… they could make LI be purchasable with Magnetite Shards Like 40 shards per LI. That’d give players the option to speed up the acquisition if they wish to do so. Now it’d only need 13 weeks instead 17, and players who have been raiding from the start must have gathered tons of those shards, basically rewarding their work so far.

Then again, I’m still not sure how the collection will go. Does it mean we’ll need 450 LI for all 3 types of armor? Which would mean we’d need a full year of raiding .

eldrin.6471:

The time it takes to find a group every week then the constant fails and people leaving the group and replacing them,ye if you got yourself a nice premade its reasonable,if your one of the many stuck puging it reasonable isnt the word id use.

I pug (almost) every week, and as long as I do it on monday, I managed to get 5 LI per weeks in less than 3 hours run. Granted there are weeks where stars don’t align and I only get to kill VG with pugs XD Currently having 87 LI though, just a barely more than half needed.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

As for the amount of LIs required, this seems absolutely fine. Yes, it does take some time, but you don’t need 150 LI or you can’t craft it; you’re free to craft the pieces one by one or even skip some. Also, as we’re getting more raids in the future, I’m pretty sure acquisition will get easier and easier in the long run.

We don’t know if we can craft the pieces individually. I might remember wrongly, but I think I saw a dev comment on reddit you will craft the armor as a whole. Also if they add a new raid I wouldn’t expect LI s to drop there, the new raid will probably have something new like Legendary trinkets

The existing 150 requirement is not an issue. Those that disagree just need to think in the longterm. There will be more raids and thus more LI’s that can be earned in a given week. It took Anet a little over 6 months to release the entire raid. If they keep this trend, or even drop it down to four months, that’s plenty of time to earn enough LI for future legendary armor. The’re also the gap between the recent raid and when then next raid’s wing is released.

It may seem slow now but it won’t be in the future as they add more raids. Chances are getting the LI’s again for the next set will be even quicker. The set after that will be even quicker than the second set.

Rising Dusk.2408:

I think 150 is too much given the rate at which they’re obtained. The time gate on legendary armor is massive in comparison to any other legendary anything currently, and it doesn’t make sense for it to be. Four months of killing every single raid boss is simply more than is reasonable, especially in comparison with the month time gate on Gifts of Craftsmanship.

Well, you need 8 weeks min. for a legendary fractal backpiece, 4 months for a full set of legendary armor doesn’t sound so bad in comparison.

Btw in general I’m not a fan about time gate stuff.

Thats 4 months minimum,if your killing all 9 raid bosses a week.what sort of tinny fraction of raiders can do that? 150 insights is probably more like a year+ to MR average.
and that 150 insights will do more to put people off raids than any thing else.
And putting people off even trying raids dont do the future of raids much good.

eldrin.6471:

Thats 4 months minimum,if your killing all 9 raid bosses a week.what sort of tinny fraction of raiders can do that? 150 insights is probably more like a year+ to MR average.
and that 150 insights will do more to put people off raids than any thing else.
And putting people off even trying raids dont do the future of raids much good.

Yeah but all starts to put the legendary armors only for raids that are the most difficult content in the game

So it sounds good only a little % can do this in 4 months and average players can always to do this in more months.

Terrible players too can do this in like 75 weeks killing only trio + w3 boss 1 every week.

In concept is similar to legendary backpack pvp with the difference you need other 9 players to do this.

So it’s more difficult for sure but we are always talking about a LEGENDARY FULL ARMOR SET (6 pieces).

BTW I really hope most of all they can design absolutely amazing skins for legendary armor because the effort is really high.

eldrin.6471:

Thats 4 months minimum,if your killing all 9 raid bosses a week.what sort of tinny fraction of raiders can do that? 150 insights is probably more like a year+ to MR average.
and that 150 insights will do more to put people off raids than any thing else.
And putting people off even trying raids dont do the future of raids much good.

Its not like you have to spend 150 LI at once, just build one piece at a time.

Anet said it would be equivalent of one legendary weapon,seems to have grown to 6.
They told use the whole set would be forged in one recipe.

I’m glad they are letting us make it one piece at a time instead of all at once. Makes it something you can works towards instead of having nothing for months and then get it all at once.

Also helps spread the cost out so you don’t need to save up 5000g at once.

Overall it seems quite reasonable for a full set of armor.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

So?
We don’t know what else will be used. Maybe there’s no amalgamated gemstones added?

We do know now and there are. 150 in total.

Astralporing.1957:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

So?
We don’t know what else will be used. Maybe there’s no amalgamated gemstones added?

We do know now and there are. 150 in total.

I might be missing something because I’m tired, but 150? I can only see the 100 crystalline ingots as requirement, which would be 100 gemstones in turn.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Astralporing.1957:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

mazut.4296:

If the info on reddit is true, 6 condensed gifts of might and 6 of magic, that’s extremely expensive… What happened to “Whole Legendary set wont cost more then a single legendary weapon” …

So?
We don’t know what else will be used. Maybe there’s no amalgamated gemstones added?

We do know now and there are. 150 in total.

I might be missing something because I’m tired, but 150? I can only see the 100 crystalline ingots as requirement, which would be 100 gemstones in turn.

Right, i misread. It’s 100. I guess i was tired too.

philheat.3956:

Rising Dusk.2408:

I think 150 is too much given the rate at which they’re obtained. The time gate on legendary armor is massive in comparison to any other legendary anything currently, and it doesn’t make sense for it to be. Four months of killing every single raid boss is simply more than is reasonable, especially in comparison with the month time gate on Gifts of Craftsmanship.

Well, you need 8 weeks min. for a legendary fractal backpiece, 4 months for a full set of legendary armor doesn’t sound so bad in comparison.

Btw in general I’m not a fan about time gate stuff.

Back piece also includes glider… Anet needs to change that time gated stuff.