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Posted by: webtoehobbit.4201

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I don’t know if it’s just me, but I have been having the hardest time trying to get into a guild group for raids. These guilds I am in seem to have a “core” group, of which I can’t get into since it’s the Leader/Officers of the guilds, and then the second group that they want to form never has enough people for it.

Must be nice for those of you who get to raid nightly with your core guild raid groups. I hope someday I can raid too, I mean unless I wanna pug, but that’s not really the best option is it?

I was really excited about raids, but now HoT is getting my literally down in the dumps. Maybe I should drop this game and go play something else till Living World Season 3 comes out. :-(

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Posted by: kolompi.1287

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This was pretty much foreseeable and Anet made the decision knowing full well how it’s going to turn out.

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Posted by: rchu.8945

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I don’t know if it’s just me, but I have been having the hardest time trying to get into a guild group for raids. These guilds I am in seem to have a “core” group, of which I can’t get into since it’s the Leader/Officers of the guilds, and then the second group that they want to form never has enough people for it.

Must be nice for those of you who get to raid nightly with your core guild raid groups. I hope someday I can raid too, I mean unless I wanna pug, but that’s not really the best option is it?

I was really excited about raids, but now HoT is getting my literally down in the dumps. Maybe I should drop this game and go play something else till Living World Season 3 comes out. :-(

That’s a pretty kittenty guild then, perhaps best to look for a new guild. Clearly the guild leaders and officers want the shiny new toys for themselves first…

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Posted by: nacario.9417

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Content is given to us, but one cannot expect Anet to handhold us the whole way. When I heard of raids i was mainly a solo pvper with no connection to anyone/didnt do much pve. For preperation I made sure to be in two active guilds, one with a core and an offgroup, and the other guild being a community one that runs 2 3 4 raids nearly daily. It is also a pluss to be a bit active and vocal in chat so that people get to know u, that u got the goods. Once people notice u, that u want to improve, u will be given a shot for raids. By doing this im now in this guilds core and we’re working on the third last boss. Often we dont have enough people on for this core run, so sometimes we tried getting 1 or 2 pugs in via lfg. A few of them turned very skilfull so now they too have a slot when spots are open.

Since ur a little late OP, start by finding guilds that look for raiders, or even big community guilds. Have all guild chats open to get an overview. Make sure u know how to play and gear ur classes, otherwise people wont run with u. I cannot stress this enough, having skilled players for raids is the true challenge, not the raid mechanics themselves. Do research on boss guides beforehand as people expect raiders to know basics by now.

So really, it’s all up to you OP, dont be that salty benchwarmer.

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Posted by: Ragmon.6350

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Don’t get offended (cause many do), but organize your own group, do it your self.

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Posted by: Urosh Uchiha.9732

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Don’t get offended (cause many do), but organize your own group, do it your self.

Exactly this. I am in a casual guild that invites ANYONE. I tried a few raids with the people there and figured that it won’t really happen. Not everyone can raid. That’s a fact.

So I started with LFG, most of the people I found on LFG were terrible, but you find one or two players here and there that are actually good. So I made a new guild only for raiders. Invited all the people I found reliable and useful to the guild. In a week the guild reached a decent amount of people. Last weekened I grouped 9 people from the guild, we wen’t Vale Guardian and downed him after a few tries.

So yeah, instead of complaining, start doing something on your own. Dedicate yourself to the raids if you want them done, don’t be a leech.

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Posted by: Pheppo.9286

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I clearly say in lfg-tool “exp. player search exp. group”

This mostly helps not to get into a designated wipe group with about 3 to 4 ppl without TS, wrong skills and missing bufffood.

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Posted by: ironfrodo.7625

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For what do you need ts for raids?
It didnt felt like there is any need for ts.

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Posted by: Gorefiend.9675

Gorefiend.9675

There are two scenarios and actions you need to think through (and honesty with yourself is needed). Why are you not getting into this raid group?

If it is because the raid group is formed up from a clicke then you should think about finding a new guild

If it is because you are there as a sub who, once subbed in, will need to prove your worth then you should decide whether or not that is your type of thing and stay/leave depending on your result.

If it is because you are not as good as those in the raid then you need to either get better or join a guild around your skill level.

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Posted by: GrimmR.3541

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In my previous guild, we split all leaders and officers into separate raid teams to avoid such a scenario. In fact, we hardly raided because we were not enough motivated people..

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

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I don’t know if it’s just me, but I have been having the hardest time trying to get into a guild group for raids. These guilds I am in seem to have a “core” group, of which I can’t get into since it’s the Leader/Officers of the guilds, and then the second group that they want to form never has enough people for it.

Must be nice for those of you who get to raid nightly with your core guild raid groups. I hope someday I can raid too, I mean unless I wanna pug, but that’s not really the best option is it?

I was really excited about raids, but now HoT is getting my literally down in the dumps. Maybe I should drop this game and go play something else till Living World Season 3 comes out. :-(

That’s a pretty kittenty guild then, perhaps best to look for a new guild. Clearly the guild leaders and officers want the shiny new toys for themselves first…

This is not how it works. If you have 10 people on progression who showed up most nights, taking a completely new person who doesn’t know the ecounter will slow your progression down and that’s a bit unfair to people who have been trying to kill a certain boss for several nights. Also, why would you not take someone who made the effort to show up for raids each night?

OP, create a guild. That’s what we did after killing Vale Guardian with 8 pugs.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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The best is to create a squad yourself. I bet a couple of person in your guild also want to raid.

Otherwise, it’s the same situation in my guild. I’m one of the leader and I created one squad with the core group being my friends. Our goal right now is to get the raid done and learn how to do those boss on a regular basis. In a couple weeks, we plan to take some new guildmate into raids like 1 or 2. With a core group of 8 to do the heavy lifting, it will be much more easier to show the raid to new people. I hope to show the raid to everybody that want to experience it and as we train more and more people, secondary squad can form by their own if they want to raid on a regular basis.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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That guild sounds like its bad, or at least the people are for excluding others from raiding.
Find yourself some friends, a new guild or something and enjoy those raids.
Alternative, start up the second group, gather as many as you can and then try to fill up with your/other squad-member’s friends; maybe even people from here or reddit (can’t believe I’m saying this). The options are there, use them.

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Posted by: Ktk.5107

Ktk.5107

That guild sounds like its bad, or at least the people are for excluding others from raiding.
Find yourself some friends, a new guild or something and enjoy those raids.
Alternative, start up the second group, gather as many as you can and then try to fill up with your/other squad-member’s friends; maybe even people from here or reddit (can’t believe I’m saying this). The options are there, use them.

Maybe he is really, really bad ?

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

That guild sounds like its bad, or at least the people are for excluding others from raiding.
Find yourself some friends, a new guild or something and enjoy those raids.
Alternative, start up the second group, gather as many as you can and then try to fill up with your/other squad-member’s friends; maybe even people from here or reddit (can’t believe I’m saying this). The options are there, use them.

Maybe he is really, really bad ?

Well I wasn’t talking about player skill here; even if he is, as guild they should strive to improve together. If he is willing to do so, they should at least give him a chance and let him actually practice raid content. If he never gets to play it, he can’t get better at it.

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Posted by: Ktk.5107

Ktk.5107

You’re guildmates, not brothers, if someone is the only one far behind, you replace him, you don’t invest hours of your personal play time to get him to be at the same level as anyone else.

But it doesn’t even seem to be the situation of OP, in his case it look like he’s in a bigger than 10 guild and didn’t manage to secure a spot in the raid. If you’re more than 10, someone will be out of it, you can’t help it, the guild got nothing to do with it.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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You’re guildmates, not brothers, if someone is the only one far behind, you replace him, you don’t invest hours of your personal play time to get him to be at the same level as anyone else.

But it doesn’t even seem to be the situation of OP, in his case it look like he’s in a bigger than 10 guild and didn’t manage to secure a spot in the raid. If you’re more than 10, someone will be out of it, you can’t help it, the guild got nothing to do with it.

No you’re not brothers, but why should a guild with more than 10 people split up into small groups which don’t let anyone else in? That’s not the point of a guild. Also, yeah it’s surely a great guild if it excludes people from joining at first and then exclude them because they didn’t practice the content they weren’t allowed to play in the first place. For me, that would a reason to abandon ship/guild/whatever.

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Posted by: Ktk.5107

Ktk.5107

We don’t know all that from his post, we just know the main group was full before he could get in, and there is not enough people to fill 2nd group.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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We don’t know all that from his post, we just know the main group was full before he could get in, and there is not enough people to fill 2nd group.

Yes; I’m just saying if what I described is the case, he would be better off doing what I recommended, imo of course.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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No you’re not brothers, but why should a guild with more than 10 people split up into small groups which don’t let anyone else in? That’s not the point of a guild. Also, yeah it’s surely a great guild if it excludes people from joining at first and then exclude them because they didn’t practice the content they weren’t allowed to play in the first place. For me, that would a reason to abandon ship/guild/whatever.

Maybe because the raid is 10 players only? I mean, I think you are quick to judge tbh because you would probably call my guild bad for doing about the same thing.

We don’t want to exclude people but at the end of the day it’s a 10 players raid and we only need 10 players. When we need more people I ask in the guild and the person that answer first and have the kind of build we need have the place. And when I’m talking about kind of build we need, we gonna take about anything, but we are not gonna take a second tank or second healer.

Why would it be my responsibility as guild leader to make sure everybody have their group. Yes a couple of players in each guild will be left behind, but we can’t be everywhere doing raid every day to satisfy everybody. I’m gonna do my very best, but I need to master the content before I start to help as much guildmate as I can.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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No you’re not brothers, but why should a guild with more than 10 people split up into small groups which don’t let anyone else in? That’s not the point of a guild. Also, yeah it’s surely a great guild if it excludes people from joining at first and then exclude them because they didn’t practice the content they weren’t allowed to play in the first place. For me, that would a reason to abandon ship/guild/whatever.

Maybe because the raid is 10 players only? I mean, I think you are quick to judge tbh because you would probably call my guild bad for doing about the same thing.

We don’t want to exclude people but at the end of the day it’s a 10 players raid and we only need 10 players. When we need more people I ask in the guild and the person that answer first and have the kind of build we need have the place. And when I’m talking about kind of build we need, we gonna take about anything, but we are not gonna take a second tank or second healer.

Why would it be my responsibility as guild leader to make sure everybody have their group. Yes a couple of players in each guild will be left behind, but we can’t be everywhere doing raid every day to satisfy everybody. I’m gonna do my very best, but I need to master the content before I start to help as much guildmate as I can.

No why, your way of doing it is fine. You’re giving everyone an equal chance – whoever says they’re in first gets a spot. It makes no sense to take five healers into your group and people should be able to take on multiple roles to increase their chance to get taken into raids, and if it’s just two roles they can play. If someone plays a build which squads only need one (at best) of and they don’t have anything else to offer then they’re out of luck and should try to be able to do another role.
What I’m talking about are groups inside guilds which completely shut themselves in, so to say, don’t let anyone else in and rather not raid at all than filling up the missing slots with other guild members. I’m saying this because I heard of cases where this actually happens (not saying this is the exact same in OP’s guild, but it is a possibility)

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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This is exactly how it’s going to be like in all guilds. It doesn’t matter how good of players the best PvE guilds out there have, there are always going to be a handful of people that are at the top among their guildmates, so when it comes down to it raids are more “play to win” mentality and those players are going to want to stick together since you can’t really play with your whole guild unless your guild roster has only 10 names.

The people who aren’t used to/reluctant to try to organise their own groups are the ones that are going to feel left out.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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What I’m talking about are groups inside guilds which completely shut themselves in, so to say, don’t let anyone else in and rather not raid at all than filling up the missing slots with other guild members. I’m saying this because I heard of cases where this actually happens (not saying this is the exact same in OP’s guild, but it is a possibility)

True but at the same time for now we only take other people because we don’t any choice. If we could take the same group of 10 players every night we would do so. But one have kids, the other have plan one night, the other just don’t show up, etc, etc. So we end up taking other people to fill out place. And even in that situation, I bet that a lot of people in my guild would say thing like ‘’oh it’s bad, they have a close core group of players and everybody else can’t raid’’. We don’t ask in the guild chat every time since we still often have out 10 man group and I’ll ask specific people that already know the fight first of course.

So I don’t see anything wrong with a exclusive group of 10-15 players that can always fill out the raid by themselves with people that know the fight and with whom they like to play. It’s sad for people outside of their group, but nothing is denying them the right to form another squad.

Just look at this the other way around. Would it be fair for a guy that worked hard on a boss with a group of guildmate and the next day they just telling him oh btw we want to include everybody so we gonna take someone else today? If he’s late or wasn’t suppose to be there I understand, but otherwise?

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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What I’m talking about are groups inside guilds which completely shut themselves in, so to say, don’t let anyone else in and rather not raid at all than filling up the missing slots with other guild members. I’m saying this because I heard of cases where this actually happens (not saying this is the exact same in OP’s guild, but it is a possibility)

True but at the same time for now we only take other people because we don’t any choice. If we could take the same group of 10 players every night we would do so. But one have kids, the other have plan one night, the other just don’t show up, etc, etc. So we end up taking other people to fill out place. And even in that situation, I bet that a lot of people in my guild would say thing like ‘’oh it’s bad, they have a close core group of players and everybody else can’t raid’’. We don’t ask in the guild chat every time since we still often have out 10 man group and I’ll ask specific people that already know the fight first of course.

So I don’t see anything wrong with a exclusive group of 10-15 players that can always fill out the raid by themselves with people that know the fight and with whom they like to play. It’s sad for people outside of their group, but nothing is denying them the right to form another squad.

Just look at this the other way around. Would it be fair for a guy that worked hard on a boss with a group of guildmate and the next day they just telling him oh btw we want to include everybody so we gonna take someone else today? If he’s late or wasn’t suppose to be there I understand, but otherwise?

Yeah no you’re right, I can understand that. Of course it would also be unfair for people who progress through raids to suddenly be excluded because of someone else said “+” faster.
You’re letting other people in however when you have to fill spots, there’s cases where groups don’t even do that as I said.
Can’t say we’re not trying to keep core groups for now since it helps a lot with learning, but others in the guild shouldn’t be excluded by default and I don’t think it’s too difficult to set up a group for one day a week for people who usually can’t join, but still get to see the raid this way. Especially considering people who killed the bosses still get shards for helping out. That’s just me, though.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

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Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

???

If you are ones to quickly give up, raids are not for you. This game lacked hard endgame content, this is a step in the right direction. Running into a wall is part of what makes raids great, because you have to improve yourself and improve as a squad to overcome whatever they put in front of you.
I agree though that HoT should’ve gotten a new dungeon (lol) and a few new fractals on release. They even had some stuff to pick from when looking at LS1-content.

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Posted by: TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275

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Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

10/10

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Posted by: Zach.2618

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Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

Just because it’s currently too hard for your skill lvl, group finding lvl, and unwillingness to push through it you blame Anet for it? Raids are supposed to be hard so either get better, find better people to raid with, help those who are not as good get better, or just give up totally and blame Anet just because you can’t beat the raid. Personally I’ve been pugging raids to quite a success as far as pugging goes, I don’t spend 2 hours looking for pug I just check lfg from time to time if anyone is looking for a role I can fill and just carry on my daily stuff. So far as a pug I’ve already managed to get gore down to the last 33%. So yeah my suggestion is just take it slow, don’t force it if you cant beat it yet find a way to change that, if you walk into a solid wall a 100 times and expect to 1 day be able to walk through it you won’t really get far.

And what is this endgame you expect Anet to implement differently? You want more meta world events? (Because I’m sure as hell cant get enough of the meta world events currently) you want more story content? More fotm? More dungeons? What is the endgame content you so desire. If you aren’t happy with endgame content just because you happen to be unable to beat it than maybe it’s not endgame content you are looking for. Maybe you are just tired of playing mmos since you seem to have a thing against the ‘generic’ mmo structure. Instead of complaining why don’t you start suggesting on endgame content you want.

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Posted by: florence.1674

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The problem comes with a game that tries to be all-inclusive(hearts, monster steal killing, group events) and suddenly does an about face to become exclusive.

Most people don’t have the time, will or resources to re-kit themselves like the hardcore grinders. Just look at Arah throughout the lifespan of GW2. The popularity of Arah would have given everyone a distinct clue to how popular the raids will be.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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The problem comes with a game that tries to be all-inclusive(hearts, monster steal killing, group events) and suddenly does an about face to become exclusive.

Most people don’t have the time, will or resources to re-kit themselves like the hardcore grinders. Just look at Arah throughout the lifespan of GW2. The popularity of Arah would have given everyone a distinct clue to how popular the raids will be.

Raid ain’t exclusive, it really depend on the players. Like I said, so far I have around 15ppl as part of the core group, but we invited 6 others members of our guild. We killed the Vale Guardian with thief, people with exotic armor, we tanked in our WvW gear, we don’t mind a wide array of build and composition, just as long as they seem to be willing to put the effort, be ready to learn and we can reach a decent composition. As time pass and we get better and better at it, we will able to include more and more people. So no the raid ain’t exclusive. It’s that some players are exclusive and to an extant, that’s ok because raid and new. You need to master a content before you can include more people that do not have as much time to wipe and learn, test thing out and figure out what work.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

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This was pretty much foreseeable and Anet made the decision knowing full well how it’s going to turn out.

Yup.

They didn’t learn from their overall boring dungeons designs, and even those are better… They certainly do not know how to make fun raids and it’s really a snoozefest. We are also missing tons of qol options and tools for players that should have been in the game before or at least coupled with the raid patch. It is easy to see that the raid was poorly planned and rushed, the entire design is evidence of that.

I personally feel there is a design trend here of… Plan project. Start making project. Get to certain point and upload said unwhole/unfinished project with good intentions to keep building on it. Eventually abandon that project for the next project that will be uploaded when it reaches “playable enough” status.

It seems like there is no real direction for this game and everything feels like one big “experiment” to play in. It also seems like they are trying to be different for the sake of being different, and in many areas (especially profession and certain combat designs) that can be seen. Sure, ther are some good “different” things and elements, but there are equally enough not so good ones either.

Let’s just take this as one example…

Raids coming! Legendary armor coming! Talk about raids and legendary rewards! Talk about “we only have a raid wing for you to play”, but more are coming! Did I mention the legendary armor!…

We don’t even have a picture of legendary armor yet…

IMHO, the professional and organized thing to do would have been…

Have an entire raid done, not just a wing, before it is uploaded. Have legendary gear done and ready to be earned, with pictures to entice players. Update the lfg with a raid tab. At the very least, announce that personal use healing and dps meters, build templates, build savers, options to highlight health bars for “healers” to use, more stuff that I can’t think of… are coming soon. Then allow whatever teams to focus on those projects until completion and upload those for players ASAP.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

The problem comes with a game that tries to be all-inclusive(hearts, monster steal killing, group events) and suddenly does an about face to become exclusive.

Most people don’t have the time, will or resources to re-kit themselves like the hardcore grinders. Just look at Arah throughout the lifespan of GW2. The popularity of Arah would have given everyone a distinct clue to how popular the raids will be.

Arah is probably the most popular dungeon besides CoF because it’s, well, CoF.

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Posted by: Zach.2618

Zach.2618

Well if you don’t want to raid or find it too difficult to get geared up to raid, or just don’t want to spend the time to raid than just don’t do it. I mean there’s a ton of other stuff added with HoT that you can do. There’s also new pvp modes, wvw has also changed for better or for worst. You aren’t really missing out on much if you don’t raid, just some skins and legendary armor with the same stats as ascended. Well legendary armor has stat swapping yes but that would mainly benefit those who want to raid, so yeah if you have no interest in raiding than the rewards probably won’t benefit you anyway. If it’s the shiny skins or tonics you are after or just the skin of the legendary armor, well my Father always told me that if I wanted something I had to work for it. So yeah.

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obastable.5231

Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

The raid is a collection of puzzles. Once you figure each one out it’s no longer difficult to perform.

A group in our Guild has had moderate success in the raid and has made a point of making sure everyone else that has interest doesn’t get left behind – we move people through in groups to help them learn the puzzles so they can (ideally) continue to be successful regardless of who they get in a group with.

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Posted by: Bllade.1029

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Gather 10 good players. Figure it out. It’s do-able; many have done it.

I like this raid; I like this difficulty; it’s nice for once having to work for something. It’s nice for once that good players are being rewarded for better play; It’s nice that for once, everything isn’t just handed to you like candy on Holloween.

It’s nice that this raid forces you to become better. If you can’t you don’t get legendary armor.

This is the best PvE this game has had EVER. Those who don’t want to put in the effort can go AFK farm dragons in the world events.

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Posted by: Soon.5240

Soon.5240

Maybe I should drop this game and go play something else till Living World Season 3 comes out. :-(

Dude, this is Living Season 3…..

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Posted by: cranos.5913

cranos.5913

If you really want to raid it’s quite simple. Make your own group. Don’t wait around and then blame other people you can’t get into a group. It’s so easy too. I guarantee you if you make a reddit post you’ll have people by the end of the week, probably sooner. Or use the LFG, some people in my guild who have more free time are already further than us by just pugging it.

Point is, and I might’ve put it a little blunt, if you had taken the time it took you to write this topic to find a group you prob would be raiding already.

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Posted by: ChrizZcE.5981

ChrizZcE.5981

“Ping your gear” is the very first thing every PUG Raid group asks for now.

If you don´t have full ascended armor with the right stats good luck finding a group.

I feel like it´s time for me to leave the game now.

Don´t have the energy anymore to run in circles in the SW for 100+ hours just to get a minor stat increase.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

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“Ping your gear” is the very first thing every PUG Raid group asks for now.

If you don´t have full ascended armor with the right stats good luck finding a group.

I feel like it´s time for me to leave the game now.

Don´t have the energy anymore to run in circles in the SW for 100+ hours just to get a minor stat increase.

…or you could raid with a guild?

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Posted by: nacario.9417

nacario.9417

Everyone I know already gave up on it.

No skin can be worth spending 2 hours to find a good party and mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or 2 until people start quitting.

Anet really lost focus and just tried imitating other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge disappointment, it’s just been made hard to hide the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

Everyone I know was about to give up on GW2 because they were tired of doing easy and tedious content.

No previous skin was worth spending hours to obtain because the game offered no alternative progression, after mashing your face against a wall 20 times for an hour or two without worrying about your rotation/build people started quitting.

Anet really regained focus by opening up the game to more playertypes by looking at other mmos. Truth is it’s a huge improvement as we now have the chance to better ourselves as players and work towards skins that cant be bought or gained without strategy, a nice addition to the tiny amount of endgame instanced content HoT came with.

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Posted by: Erzian.5218

Erzian.5218

I didn’t know it was that hard to find 9 friends on the internet….

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

I didn’t know it was that hard to find 9 friends on the internet….

I didn’t know the raid would be so unpopular from day one… You’d figure there would be players dying to run this and stick with it while inside, but those are not the cases…

I never had a problem running raid content in another game, and within a matter of minutes I always had a full team ready to go… I also never encountered sitting around for long periods of time trying to replace members who quit…

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Posted by: brunobyof.3541

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Its because raids are actually a hardcore content on a casual game. Even ppl who are veterans may find it difficult to beat. But the main issue right now is to find a group of 10 ppl who are able to fulfill all of this:
Have hours to try it out
Have skills to beat it
Have gear
Have the right comp for group
Good communication
Patience
Be openminded to try new things
And the list goes on.
There are players like that indeed, but try to join 10 of these in a random group and u will see how difficult this is

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

We could debate “hardcore”, but I’ll let it go because I don’t want to use terms that get me infracted

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Posted by: brunobyof.3541

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Dont need to. Just see how many people find it difficult to beat vale Guardian and You will see that hardcore means hardcore. Besides, IF it wasnt, there wouldnt be released as a guild oriented stuff and there would not be people asking not to nerf it and other asking to do it. There would be only people talking about other things or just that it is easy

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Posted by: nacario.9417

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Itll never be 10%, thatll have an impact on market. Even if u fail in raids u can still obtain asc boxes in there at least every 2nd week from mag shards so theres nothing stopping u

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Posted by: TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275

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I didn’t know it was that hard to find 9 friends on the internet….

I didn’t know the raid would be so unpopular from day one… You’d figure there would be players dying to run this and stick with it while inside, but those are not the cases…

I never had a problem running raid content in another game, and within a matter of minutes I always had a full team ready to go… I also never encountered sitting around for long periods of time trying to replace members who quit…

I didn’t know you had statistics on how popular or unpopular raids are. Good for you!

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

I don’t need stats, the “evidence” can clearly be seen by the popularity and interest for the raid.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

I don’t need stats, the “evidence” can clearly be seen by the popularity and interest for the raid.

What evidence? The QQ on the forum. The same QQ that screamed that Pew pew ranger were OP and needed some nerf for then QQ how Dragonhunter are OP and need nerf?

Or the same QQ that screamed that Silverwaste mobs were too op and needed nerf, to then QQ that HoT mobs are too op and need a nerf?

Or the same QQ that predicted the end of zerker meta when Anet announced the nerf to critical damage tranformed into ferocity, just to predict the end of zerker meta when Anet announced the nerf to might, to then predict the end of the zerker meta when Anet talked about raid?

Is that QQ forum your evidence?

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Posted by: LordOtto.2650

LordOtto.2650

Hello,
I’m looking for a guild who is dedicated to only raid.. I’m playing almost every day, I have DH and Reaper full zerker (DH weapons/ trinkets full ascended +2 armor ascended; Reaper weapons/trinkets full ascended, armor full exotic).
I have experience, TS.
(If I don’t find guilds I will make my own guild for this..)