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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

As you might know Anet implemented a feature to prevent people kicking their party and inviting guildies/friends for fast rewards.
However there is something which you may not know.
1) If everyone in your party LEAVES you get booted.
2) If you try to invite anyone while alone you get booted.

“2” is not a big issue because you rarely go solo. But “1” is seriously annoying if your party gives up and you want invite people.

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Posted by: Ari Kagura.9182

Ari Kagura.9182

I’m guessing the party system is not distinguishing the difference between a Kick and a Leave.

Although, I also think your example might be a little extreme— are you saying ALL party members left as opposed to maybe one or two people simply rage-quitting? If all party members quit, maybe that run was not meant to be and might be best to start from the beginning.

Then again, you might have the desire to continue where you left off … in that case, what if one of your other party members want to continue at the same spot as well? Perhaps they should have stayed with you while you attempt to find replacements for the folks who left you.

For the intents and purposes of that anti-grief feature, it could very well be “working as intended”.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

If every party member leaves you get also kicked (even if you are leader).
Well my actual issue is “1” because I like trying to solo dungeons and then invite people when I can’t progress or just for rewards. I don’t think I have to tell what happened at end of Arah P3. :P
It is just way too strict at the moment. You won’t get a chance to invite people after kicking so why also boot based on that?

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Posted by: Lucas Ashrock.8675

Lucas Ashrock.8675

I wish would have work for fractals too, the leave and everyone is kicked out.
Looking forward for an update about it.

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Posted by: Lucas Ashrock.8675

Lucas Ashrock.8675

Nope. It’s a nonsense it is not implemented for dungeons nor on fractals.
Would put an end on leavers, people kicking for invite friends etc.
One is kicked/leave? All booted out.
That’s why i don’t want an update of fractals when dc able to rejoin. If fixed, means at 3rd fractal before boss 2 organized friends kicks everyone, invite their guildies/friends, and do the daily+ring.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

All I’m really asking is if I duo my friend can leave and if I solo I can invite other people. That really shouldn’t interfere with “kick everyone get booted” idea.

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Posted by: Lucas Ashrock.8675

Lucas Ashrock.8675

By design, you cannot solo most fractals at all, physically impossible. I hope an update like this able to invite a sub will never be implemented. Who is out (dc, went offline, kicked etc) is gone, deal with it or reset. An instaboot if 5th is missing is the best choice.

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Posted by: Zero Angel.9715

Zero Angel.9715

Oh, I misunderstood. So that’s something you want ANet to implement only if the ‘cant rejoin fractals after d/c’ bug is not fixed.

It makes sense. However by personal experience, I haven’t ever gotten kicked from a party for what I believe is an unfair reason. I can see how it can happen and be used to grief people and believe that if it really is a problem then steps should be taken to mitigate it — but only if they do not interfere with the ‘normal’ situations, like people getting kicked due to ragequitting or d/c’ing for an excessively long time.

If that were to happen then it would be a case of the cure being worse than the illness.

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Posted by: Lucas Ashrock.8675

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I don’t know why, but i still think this is the upcoming update, 3rd fractal grief kicking everyone like dungeons
Wanna bet? We are used to it, 3 months, new content, do this grief has been fixed?
Yes, just who played with his group , dc, must be the only one able to rejoin. Same for dungeons.
Even reinvited, if kicked by abusers.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

Update: I was soloing a dungeon. One guy sent me a party invite, I didn’t accept, I got booted.

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Posted by: Toncora.3247

Toncora.3247

It seem’s its the player who created the instance? rather than the party leader who causes all players to be exited, atleast in our case my friend tried to swap to another character in order to get them some xp just before the final fight but we were all kicked from the instance, he was invited to the group so was not the leader but he did enter the dungeon first.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

That’s old issue. Whoever enters dungeon first owns that instance (and character swap destroys). What I’m experiencing here is getting booted out of my own instance.

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Posted by: Nashaan.3160

Nashaan.3160

It seem’s its the player who created the instance? rather than the party leader who causes all players to be exited, atleast in our case my friend tried to swap to another character in order to get them some xp just before the final fight but we were all kicked from the instance, he was invited to the group so was not the leader but he did enter the dungeon first.

Whoever the ‘party leader’ is means nothing, but then again party leader has no meaning outside of dungeons either as all members have the same powers as each other to invite/ kick etc.

Whoever triggers the instance and starts it is the host, host leaves everyone leaves. Its always been that way. I’m kinda surprised no-one in your group told him when he said he was switching, I would think most of the player base who runs regular dungeons is aware of it.