Guild Wars 2

What should I do as necro at jade maw? AA with staff 1 jade maw to death(proc with vamp aura)? or AA with dark field?

When should I hit jade maw with AA? after 50% health, I know it can be bugged if you hit with IB and SoR before 50% health.

Pick up an Ice Bow and use the 2 skill on the Jade Maw inside one of your wells. If you have no Elementalist and no one helping you, it’s better to just use a Leeching sigil and repeatedly pick up a crystal until you get the sigil buff. Then you can attack it with any projectile. You want to make sure you have entered phase 3 before you bring it to critical HP or it will bug.

It’s not the HP level that Jade Maw bugs with; It’s killing Jade Maw before you finish Phase 2 (Kill all Colossi). Finish off all the Colossi or at least wait for them to all spawn before you leech all of Jade Maw’s HP. If you let them all spawn but don’t kill them, you’ll still need to kill the Colossi before the end chest will spawn.

You can tell how many are left by the number of crystals floating around Jade Maw.

yeah I mean “kill all colossi” phase not the HP %. My bad ha3

your party can still damage the jade maw with vampiric aura, using only projectiles/range attacks. its slower though than through combo (yet faster than the intended way)

I’m generally strict about exploiting stuff – for instance we don’t exploit arah p4, yet maw is so incredibly boring and so punishing in its forced timegating that I just… can’t. It’s such an awful fight, Jerus…
Have they talked about any plans to rebalance or at least look at the existing fractals again. Too many mechanics that are plain horrible.

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

Sublimatio.6981:

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Thx for the tips and trick

Sublimatio.6981:

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Do you by any chance mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bA7_J6hQaE ?
I definitely wouldn’t try that one.

Tarasicodissa.7084:

Sublimatio.6981:

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Do you by any chance mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bA7_J6hQaE ?
I definitely wouldn’t try that one.

/slowclap

This is truly programming at its finest.

deSade.9437:

I’m generally strict about exploiting stuff – for instance we don’t exploit arah p4, yet maw is so incredibly boring and so punishing in its forced timegating that I just… can’t. It’s such an awful fight, Jerus…
Have they talked about any plans to rebalance or at least look at the existing fractals again. Too many mechanics that are plain horrible.

Life steal versus the Jade Maw is not an exploit. It may not be what they ultimately want the fractal to be, though, but it’s not exploitative per their definition. It’s a lot like life steal against Liadri was; they eventually changed it because they felt it made her too easy, but it wasn’t an exploit to do it when you could. This is exactly how life steal is supposed to function.

Tarasicodissa.7084:

Sublimatio.6981:

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Do you by any chance mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bA7_J6hQaE ?
I definitely wouldn’t try that one.

So what am I missing?

He enters Plague Form. Has about 40k max health. Gets hit by 40k damage. Loses only 18k health?

Plague Form has 55% damage reduction instead of 2788 extra toughness as stated on wiki?

Wethospu.6437:

Tarasicodissa.7084:

Sublimatio.6981:

Zenith.7301:

Make sure your group also holds crystals when doing the trick by the ledge or the jade maw can wipe you with its revenge beam at 1% and reset the fight.

if necro has 100% ds and hp, he can facetank it xd

Do you by any chance mean this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bA7_J6hQaE ?
I definitely wouldn’t try that one.

So what am I missing?

He enters Plague Form. Has about 40k max health. Gets hit by 40k damage. Loses only 18k health?

Plague Form has 55% damage reduction instead of 2788 extra toughness as stated on wiki?

Death Shroud mitigates the rest of the damage

Rest of what? The damage comes in two packets of 100% max health.

Based on this, I would assume that Plague with >90% health is enough to survive both hits. Plus some extra for agony.

Wethospu.6437:

Rest of what? The damage comes in two packets of 100% max health.

Based on this, I would assume that Plague with >90% health is enough to survive both hits. Plus some extra for agony.

I heard something about being able to have both Death Shroud and Plague up, which would probably result in what we can see in the video; that’s just my guess though.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Wethospu.6437:

Rest of what? The damage comes in two packets of 100% max health.

Based on this, I would assume that Plague with >90% health is enough to survive both hits. Plus some extra for agony.

I heard something about being able to have both Death Shroud and Plague up, which would probably result in what we can see in the video; that’s just my guess though.

I guess he uses Unholy Sanctuary, no?

That would make sense as he enters it pretty much instantly. So is Plague even needed then?

This leaves two possibilities:

1) Damage doesn’t carry over to DS when US triggers.

2) Damage gets halved by DS when US triggers. He had 18k health, took 20k damage, 2k carried over to DS. He had gathered extra 2k DS during Plague with something.

Wethospu.6437:

That would make sense as he enters it pretty much instantly. So is Plague even needed then?

Probably, due to the additional toughness reducing received damage. Except the beam ignores armor, which it likely doesn’t?

And yes, I completely forgot about Unholy Sanctuary because there’s never any use for it in PvE… lol.

Do you gain life force when plague form ends? you get 15% for lich form ending

SlyDevil.3952:

Do you gain life force when plague form ends? you get 15% for lich form ending

No. It is a corruption skill, not a spectral skill.

Necro can survive the last laser without any special traits or transforms. You facetank it with 100% ds and hp and then you get downed, not defeated. Sure you can do it like Brazil did in this vid, but it’s bothersome. you can also try protection

Wethospu.6437:

That would make sense as he enters it pretty much instantly. So is Plague even needed then?

This leaves two possibilities:

1) Damage doesn’t carry over to DS when US triggers.

2) Damage gets halved by DS when US triggers. He had 18k health, took 20k damage, 2k carried over to DS. He had gathered extra 2k DS during Plague with something.

1) damage carries over
2) yes, DS halves direct dmg taken

he could gather bonus LF by recent party members deaths or the recent ds pool could be increased due to vitality increase from plague and then immediately decrease due to plague ending. idk. it looks messy as it all happens in split second ;D

It doesn’t carry over. Remember to check your facts!

good to know. i thought it carries over because you still die from falling dmg, but now it seems like UH doesn’t work when you die from falling