Guild Wars 2

Although the dungeons that are available at the moment and of course Fractals are fun and all, it has become a situation where people hardly do CM and Arah most days on the US servers, i know this because it takes near enough 45mins – 1 hour just to get one party and even then most don’t know what the hell they are doing.

My question is will you be just leaving the dungeons available to rot there in silence? or are we actually going to see more dungeons reveal themselves and get new currencies to buy new Armor pieces too.

Dungeons are starting to become a dying breed in this game but it seems hardly anyone is noticing this problem.

so if there is even a chance of new dungeons coming to Tyria, then i would gladly listen to what you guys have to say about it, but please…DO NOT! add new paths to dungeons, the Aeither Blade crap in TA was the worst ever, please do not do that.

thanks.

Shakes magic 8 ball

All signs point to no.

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

Maybe, but if so it would probably be more aetherpath-like stuff.

Darox.8069:

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

My might math might be a bit off, but I am rather sure that February (if we only count permanent content additions) is three months ago, not six. (Fractured wasn’t the last one)

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

My might math might be a bit off, but I am rather sure that February (if we only count permanent content additions) is three months ago, not six. (Fractured wasn’t the last one)

I believe he meant last dungeon content patch. And I’m sure you knew that.

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

My might math might be a bit off, but I am rather sure that February (if we only count permanent content additions) is three months ago, not six. (Fractured wasn’t the last one)

I am afraid I see no PvE content in the February patches.

Darox.8069:

I am afraid I see no PvE content in the February patches.

I see a totally new permanent map. True, it is in WvW, but it is still content and it is still quite a bit of PvE. You claimed that there have been no content patch (which is false nonetheless due to all the temporary content since then) for six months.

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

I am afraid I see no PvE content in the February patches.

I see a totally new permanent map. True, it is in WvW, but it is still content and it is still quite a bit of PvE. You claimed that there have been no content patch (which is false nonetheless due to all the temporary content since then) for six months.

You are correct, what I have been saying is erroneous: There has not been content addition since november two years ago. That’s because in the “Fractured” patch they removed more content than they added.

Darox.8069:

You are correct, what I have been saying is erroneous: There has not been content addition since november two years ago. That’s because in the “Fractured” patch they removed more content than they added.

Hm?
I might remember incorrectly, but I seem to recall they removing a grand total of nothing in the way of content with that patch, while adding 4 new fractals.

lordkrall.7241:

Darox.8069:

You are correct, what I have been saying is erroneous: There has not been content addition since november two years ago. That’s because in the “Fractured” patch they removed more content than they added.

Hm?
I might remember incorrectly, but I seem to recall they removing a grand total of nothing in the way of content with that patch, while adding 4 new fractals.

Indeed you remember incorrectly, which is strange because “Fractured” is associated with “never forget”, for good reasons.

- added 4 fractals = 40% more content
- removed 30 levels = 40% less content
- gear gating, deceiving, abusing powers, and disrupting rewards = less fun
- Fun contents me
>> Grand total = less content

Are we really going to count (more or less identical) levels as content now?
In that case we should also count those 20 Instabilities which actually are new unique things.
Which makes your calculation quite a bit off.

lordkrall.7241:

Are we really going to count (more or less identical) levels as content now?
In that case we should also count those 20 Instabilities which actually are new unique things.
Which makes your calculation quite a bit off.

I am already counting instabilities, look, I said “gear gating”.
Because let’s be serious, no one ever does the instabilities apart from x0’s and 49. And even still, people doing 49 only do so because they do not have the gear to do 50. So yeah, gear gating.
So nope, instabilities (= gear gating) is just a way to make it longer to reach content that was already there before the patch.
So instabilities = less content

There are a grand total of 2 instabilities that are “gear gating” (the same was already there in the form of unavoidable Jade Maw btw, but I suppose we ignore that). One at lvl 40 and the other at lvl 50.

Which still means a grand total of NINE instabilities that should be counted as new content (by your logic) seeing as every single one from lvl 31 to lvl 40 is fully possible to do without the gear gate.

i wouldn’t call fractals a dungeon, more like fragments of the past. but i’m guessing when the map expands beyond the actual base maps then we should see more of them emerge.

Darox.8069:

Last “content patch” was 6 months ago, it is knows as the “Fractured” patch. Just writing this word makes me shiver. It is synonym with abuse of power, lies, deception and content removal.

Next patch will be in six months, logically, and it will probably be named “Mutilated”.

This sounds about right. All “hard” dungeons get nerfed, and additional “content” is bonus cutscenes like the one they added for the Volcanic fractal. Then, to put us all on “equal footing” for the new Dungeons Leaderboards, all of our dungeon access gets locked, DM titles get removed and our dungeon tokens get reset to zero.

The race to be first to unlock AC Story Mode begins with “Mutilated”!

EDIT: Also, let’s not forget extreme camera zoom in during boss fights for “immersion”; nerfing most of the trash mobs so they no longer drop loot or give stacks; and of course, NPC AI “fixed” so they now Leroy into every group of mobs and room pull them towards you.

EDIT2: yes, I might still be slightly bitter about “Fractured”.

lordkrall.7241:

There are a grand total of 2 instabilities that are “gear gating” (the same was already there in the form of unavoidable Jade Maw btw, but I suppose we ignore that). One at lvl 40 and the other at lvl 50.

Which still means a grand total of NINE instabilities that should be counted as new content (by your logic) seeing as every single one from lvl 31 to lvl 40 is fully possible to do without the gear gate.

If you count instabilities as a new content, maybe we should count gem store items as well?

haviz.1340:

lordkrall.7241:

There are a grand total of 2 instabilities that are “gear gating” (the same was already there in the form of unavoidable Jade Maw btw, but I suppose we ignore that). One at lvl 40 and the other at lvl 50.

Which still means a grand total of NINE instabilities that should be counted as new content (by your logic) seeing as every single one from lvl 31 to lvl 40 is fully possible to do without the gear gate.

If you count instabilities as a new content, maybe we should count gem store items as well?

And new achievements!

haviz.1340:

If you count instabilities as a new content, maybe we should count gem store items as well?

I wasn’t the one counting them as new content. The person I discussed with was and I just used the same logic, since he/she/it wanted to use that logic at only part of the things added.

lordkrall.7241:

I wasn’t the one counting them as new content. The person I discussed with was and I just used the same logic, since he/she/it wanted to use that logic at only part of the things added.

And it tells a lot about the state of the content in gw when you have to resort to that.

Meow.

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The only new dungeon you will see is if it’s part of the living story. Even then it will just be a single path.

Ayrilana.1396:

The only new dungeon you will see is if it’s part of the living story. Even then it will just be a single path.

I wonder if no dungeon added will ever be permanent outside of fractals because of this: People like to do all dungeon paths in a day, and adding more could burn them out in the same way dailies were dramatically reduced.

I completely disagree that that should happen, but I wonder if it crossed Anet’s collective mind.

That would also explain what happened with TA.

They didnt actually “add” a new dungeon when it came to the TA aetherpath, it replaced the FWD>UP path instead (the one with the bees and tough spider/tree boss)

Ignoring fractuals we havent had any new dungeons at all.

I remember reading quite a few posts last year lamenting the ‘disbanding’ of the dungeon team, so it’s probably safe to assume that hasn’t changed.

If by some miracle we were to get a new 3 or 4 path dungeon, what do you guys reckon would be the theme? My money’s on a clockwork/steam creature lair of some sort.

Alvarez Azel.4083:

They didnt actually “add” a new dungeon when it came to the TA aetherpath, it replaced the FWD>UP path instead (the one with the bees and tough spider/tree boss)

Ignoring fractuals we havent had any new dungeons at all.

Ya that’s what I meant. The only new path we got added outside of fractals replaced a path. The number of dungeons we have right now may be the sort of critical mass as determined by Anet. Any more will have to come at the sacrifice of others or people who can’t moderate their play time effectively will complain that there are too many dungeon paths to do every day.

That’s just my conspiracy theory.