Guild Wars 2

Why doesn’t anyone want to do CM?

They do its just noone wants to pug CM.

The tokens do not give zerker, ptv, or knight’s gear, the most popular types
There are other runs which are faster and easier to pug for the same amount of gold (1g)
The chests do not drop any kind of lodestone
You can’t exploit any more (to my knowledge)

I certainly want to do CM…

P2 and P3 Recipes are worth a hell of a lot.

Blix.8021:

You can’t exploit any more (to my knowledge)

You certainly can, there are so many it’s not even fair.

I wanna do it…. I wanna get 6 noble runes to find out if there’s some kind of new Might build that can be fenagled out of them…

Blix.8021:

The tokens do not give zerker, ptv, or knight’s gear, the most popular types
There are other runs which are faster and easier to pug for the same amount of gold (1g)
The chests do not drop any kind of lodestone
You can’t exploit any more (to my knowledge)

You can sneak through a pretty large chunk on multiple paths with stealth.
Cores/lodestones can drop from the champ boxes so all dungeon paths are more ore less equal there.

On the the hand p1&p2 end bosses are a bit annoying in their own way.
I didn’t check but I don’t think they’ve fixed the barrel in p2 yet.

Blix.8021:

The tokens do not give zerker, ptv, or knight’s gear, the most popular types
There are other runs which are faster and easier to pug for the same amount of gold (1g)
The chests do not drop any kind of lodestone
You can’t exploit any more (to my knowledge)

You can get rabid which is the condition variant of knights and it’s often considered the premium condition spec, but conditions are a great deal less desired. A lot of WvW players want it, but those same players don’t want to do a dungeon, let alone CM.

Personally I find CM to be one of the easier dungeons if you have lots of reflection skills. Most of the mobs in there rely entirely on projectiles, which makes it incredibly easy for mesmers and guardians to almost completely negate any challenge.

Most times I pug CM people don’t use exploits or tricks and I suspect that’s why it’s run less. The tricks exist, but people don’t seem to be as aware of them as they are for dungeons like AC.

Shiren.9532:

Blix.8021:

The tokens do not give zerker, ptv, or knight’s gear, the most popular types
There are other runs which are faster and easier to pug for the same amount of gold (1g)
The chests do not drop any kind of lodestone
You can’t exploit any more (to my knowledge)

You can get rabid which is the condition variant of knights and it’s often considered the premium condition spec, but conditions are a great deal less desired. A lot of WvW players want it, but those same players don’t want to do a dungeon, let alone CM.

Personally I find CM to be one of the easier dungeons if you have lots of reflection skills. Most of the mobs in there rely entirely on projectiles, which makes it incredibly easy for mesmers and guardians to almost completely negate any challenge.

Most times I pug CM people don’t use exploits or tricks and I suspect that’s why it’s run less. The tricks exist, but people don’t seem to be as aware of them as they are for dungeons like AC.

Rabid is also available from the WvW armorsmith for badges+some gold. Maybe not the cheapest but it’s the option that involves more WvW and less non-WvW.

I like CM. I do it for Nobleman’s armor and greatsword skin for my warrior. Also there are many tricks you can use.

I love the armor. It will be enhanced by juggernaut soon . I find the winged helmet awesome. I have more for every spec.

The Armor??? … Okay you’re definitely talking about the Heavy armor which most people all agreed looks like Sewer Pipes and car fenders after they been in a wreck

Pugs have a harder time changing things in their skill bar then dodging alfa’s aoe, for some reason. I can count on one hand the number of times anyone in a pug group has used a reflect skill without me requesting it. The idea of leaving someone in a cutscene is utterly absurd to them, and most of the time someone has run in and triggered it before you have time to explain the strategy. It’s not an impossible path, its more that the most commonly run paths of AC, TA, SE, COF and COE are all very, very easy for pugs.

I don’t want the skins or the stats from that dungeon.

spoj.9672:

They do its just noone wants to pug CM.

I agree with you.I do CM with my guild and close friends only.I don’t like to pug it.

Its because everything about the dungeon is kitten compared to the other kitten dungeons.

Dromar.1027:

Its because everything about the dungeon is kitten compared to the other kitten dungeons.

It’s not that bad once you’ve gotten used to it. The necessity for reflects is a bit too high. It would be fine if there were some spots where you need it but right now with reflects it’s about the same as other dungeons. Without it is just a lot harder. There are just too many places where it feels like the designer is cheating to create difficulty.

No native lodestone drops from chest. Boring armour and stats. Rares you can’t salvage for ectos. 1 gold per path which doesn’t compliment the above shortcomings well.

I only run it when a guildie asks for it. Even then they usually need the tokens for some gifts or something I rarely run it on my own initiative.

I found out after running it with spoj that you can just pick up the barrels and whack all of the bosses for like 50k per hit.

Thats only path 2 though

That reminds me, I went in to an Arah PUG on friday night, and the difference between randoms and people who know what they are doing was light and day. The group couldn’t even get to the Ancient Ooze without repeatedly wiping, so after a while I just called it quits there.

I HATE PUGS SO MUCH