Guild Wars 2

Ooh, in about three month you’ll look back and shame about what you just wrote here.

Tehehehe everything but Necromancer is good

get it

I hope you are being sarcastic or you are joking OP.If not then you are being really ignorant by thinking that only those 3 classes are good for anything.

Elementalists and thieves glass canons have dps on par as warriors.They have really high burst.But dmg is not anything.Lets talk for them separately.

Thieves are very useful in fractals and Arah and many other dungeons for their group invisibility.You have no idea how fast my dungeon runs go because i have really experienced thieves in my guild.Also their smoke screen is working just like guardian’s walls and bubbles.And on top of that they have very high dmg capabilities.

Staff elementalists have really amazing dps too.Do you know how they can drop down the mobs,Kholer,The spider and the burrows?I don’t think you do.They will melt then like buttor on sun.Their Fiery sowrd and Ice bow is one of their best utilities.Now lets talk about their reflects.Yes they have those too.Their earth is actually quite useful for it’s good reflect shield.
And let me not start about combo fields.

I can only say that thieves and elementalists are almost on par or even as good as warrior’s dps.When pros are playing them.
Guardian,thief,warrior,elementalist and mesmer are great professions especially for dungeons.

I may not have talked about Necros but their double hp bar for fractals is just amazing for survival and then picking up the group at the Maw.

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger. Necromancer is an unemployed single mother with 5 children.

Joshua.9346:

Seriously. I’m being even lenient with Mesmers here but if you aren’t any of the 3 then stop kittening asking to join my party. I’m just going to start adding you kittenes to my ignore list from now on.

I added you to my ignore list.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger.

The thing is that Warrior’s DPS is 10 times easier to pull off compared to Guard, Thief and Ele, for the average player.

You know, for those 3 profs (manly Ele/Thief) you might need to dodge.

AndrewSX.3794:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger.

The thing is that Warrior’s DPS is 10 times easier to pull off compared to Guard, Thief and Ele, for the average player.

You know, for those 3 profs (manly Ele/Thief) you might need to dodge.

Yes i know.That is why i never run with pugs and strangers.I prefer to do dungeons every day with my guild who will bring diversity in the classes.And will not stack only OP warriors because they are easy to learn and easy to play.

I will repeat AC with ele in your group will melt the everything.Or Arah with a thief will finish help the group finish in no time.
It’s interesting to play with different classes.Not only guard,warrior and Mesmer.
To have diversity is a good thing.

How come Warrior’s DPS is easier to pull off than Guardians? All you need to do as a guardian is spam sword #1, maybe starting the fight with GS and using #5 and #4 before spaming sword #1. lol

AndrewSX.3794:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger.

The thing is that Warrior’s DPS is 10 times easier to pull off compared to Guard, Thief and Ele, for the average player.

You know, for those 3 profs (manly Ele/Thief) you might need to dodge.

Very specific and perfectly timed DPS rotation on a Warrior is easier to pull off than turning on autoattack with a Sword on Guardian? You also need to dodge on every single profession to maintain your health for Scholar Runes / not dying. Thief requires you to stay in Dagger / Dagger behind a boss and autoattack or use 2 abilities. Ele requires you to Fiery Rush into a corner or autoattack with Lightning Hammer. Warrior requires a lot more thought.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

AndrewSX.3794:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger.

The thing is that Warrior’s DPS is 10 times easier to pull off compared to Guard, Thief and Ele, for the average player.

You know, for those 3 profs (manly Ele/Thief) you might need to dodge.

Very specific and perfectly timed DPS rotation on a Warrior is easier to pull off than turning on autoattack with a Sword on Guardian? You also need to dodge on every single profession to maintain your health for Scholar Runes / not dying. Thief requires you to stay in Dagger / Dagger behind a boss and autoattack or use 2 abilities. Ele requires you to Fiery Rush into a corner or autoattack with Lightning Hammer. Warrior requires a lot more thought.

Keep in mind we’re talking about pugging and average players, not optimized running.

I’m not saying that War is easier to Min/Max than Guard, Thief or Ele.

But the average pug will go War for DPS. Thief and Ele are too fragile for them, and Guard is rarely seen as DPS source.

As wrong as it can be, that’s how most pugs i’ve met see professions – that was my point.

AndrewSX.3794:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

AndrewSX.3794:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Warrior damage is not as high as Thief or Elementalist. Warrior sustained damage is not as high as Guardian. Warrior DPS is only slightly better than Ranger.

The thing is that Warrior’s DPS is 10 times easier to pull off compared to Guard, Thief and Ele, for the average player.

You know, for those 3 profs (manly Ele/Thief) you might need to dodge.

Very specific and perfectly timed DPS rotation on a Warrior is easier to pull off than turning on autoattack with a Sword on Guardian? You also need to dodge on every single profession to maintain your health for Scholar Runes / not dying. Thief requires you to stay in Dagger / Dagger behind a boss and autoattack or use 2 abilities. Ele requires you to Fiery Rush into a corner or autoattack with Lightning Hammer. Warrior requires a lot more thought.

Keep in mind we’re talking about pugging and average players, not optimized running.

I’m not saying that War is easier to Min/Max than Guard, Thief or Ele.

But the average pug will go War for DPS. Thief and Ele are too fragile for them, and Guard is rarely seen as DPS source.

As wrong as it can be, that’s how most pugs i’ve met see professions – that was my point.

Pugs are bad, so why even bother using them as an example of what DPS a class can do? Pugs are also inconsistent and don’t have a set build to use. Each pug varies from the next.

I agree with TheMaskedParadigm.
Pugs can not be used as an example of what DPS classes can do.Pugs by default are not so skilled players.There may be exceptions from the rule,but in general you can’t compare a pug warrior for instance to a warrior with a solid group running dungeons.

But, all of you guys do PUG runs. Doesn’t that make you PUGs?

Get off of my forum, dirty PUGs!

Bad players (oh look, OP deleted his post) shouldn’t be used as examples at all, you can’t balance nor discuss classes based on poor display.

I couldnt be fed to read this all but all I can say is once again another person slow to catch the meta. Go watch rT’s SE run and get a true taste of the meta. #fireygsisobviouslyanexploititsokaytousebutaspeedrunwithitisnotlegit

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

But, all of you guys do PUG runs. Doesn’t that make you PUGs?

Get off of my forum, dirty PUGs!

You are so mistaken.I never do pug runs.Stop talking for all comunity like you represent it.

Guardian is the most balanced class (yet there’s a lack in vitality), Warrior isn’t, there’s still some adjustment to do on that one regarding toughness and healing, Mesmers are ok, Thieves are good when used correctly, rangers have best ranged utilities, engeneer can do many things, elementalists needs an adjustment concerning conditions and finally necros are good but needs nerf in conditions so the eles are more viable for conditions builds.

Condition builds aren’t viable for pve.

… and wouldn’t you just want to raise ele up to be more viable rather than lower others?

Then again, given the pvp condition meta, maybe a little lowering wouldn’t be out of hand.

Nerf…condition necro

So that…condition ele is viable

I’d post that Scanners gif but the last time I did it I got i-n-f-r-a-yougettherest

I got like three of those yesterday.

I still can’t get over how it was 1 year ago when warriors were considered the kittens of dungeon runs and everyone hated the idea if having them on their team.

Chaotic Storm.2815:

I still can’t get over how it was 1 year ago when warriors were considered the kittens of dungeon runs and everyone hated the idea if having them on their team.

since release warriors/guardian party have been the first to finish dungeon paths considered too hard.

the PvE 4 wars/1 guard is an issue since release…that indeed is 1 year ago

Don t you remember party composition of first video cof2 before nerf and before WP rush was considered?

Or about clearing AC?

or once again arah?