Oh! Mai Trin! This should be fun!

Oh! Mai Trin! This should be fun!

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Posted by: Chilli.2976

Chilli.2976

So today I experienced level 49 fractals with Mai Trin as the last boss. Having beat her several times before the patch, I officially now have to say she is overpowered.

My team consisted of me: Thief, Guardian, Mesmer, Warrior, and Ele.

The whole fractal took us around 3hr30min, 70% of that time was spent on Mai Trin.

What I ended up doing, spending 10 revival orbs (which areanet likes, and I have to buy more). Changing my build over 6 times, finally ended on 0,0,30,30,10.

Rewards? I got nothing from the daily chest, so in another words I wasted 3 hours of my time for nothing.

What needs to be done? Nerf Mia Trins teleport shot, as it hits me for 8.4k x2 (i’m a theif) and then bleeds to follow up, so basically if I fail to dodge or evade her shot, I’m instantly dead, and the same goes for most classes.

OR

You can use the same game mechanic you do for the elemental boss, where if we wipe the HP of the boss stays the same.

Regards,

One of many annoyed players!

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

TKiller.6829

if I fail to dodge or evade her shot, I’m instantly dead, and the same goes for most classes

I fail to understand why is this bad.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

if I fail to dodge or evade her shot, I’m instantly dead, and the same goes for most classes

I fail to understand why is this bad.

It’s bad because the effort in completing this encounter in nowhere comes close to the reward you get for completing it.

And considering Anet’s standards for Rewards in this game, it hardly seems possible that they could buff the rewards to meet the current threat level that Mai Trinn represents.

That being said, it doesn’t make sense that she remains as hard, as that would imply a reward + other fractal end bosses overhaul, which would definitely improve the game but it’s certainly not a priority whatsoever for Anet.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

if I fail to dodge or evade her shot, I’m instantly dead, and the same goes for most classes

I fail to understand why is this bad.

It’s bad because the effort in completing this encounter in nowhere comes close to the reward you get for completing it.

And considering Anet’s standards for Rewards in this game, it hardly seems possible that they could buff the rewards to meet the current threat level that Mai Trinn represents.

That being said, it doesn’t make sense that she remains as hard, as that would imply a reward + other fractal end bosses overhaul, which would definitely improve the game but it’s certainly not a priority whatsoever for Anet.

+ Oneshots (whether being “true” oneshots or simply attacks that hit twice or more times in the same instant) are rather cheap imo, especially if they’re undodgeable like her Teleporting Shot.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

The level of synergy required in a team to remove her stack without getting hit is unrealistic, even in organized groups. There is always a person that dodge the wrong way and get the AoE away or the aggro of mai trin. Same goes for those “invisible” cannon AoE during cannon phase, it’s really frustrating.

The damage she was doing pre-patch was actually perfect. This once again show that Anet doesn’t try their content, they probably watched that one video of a Cleric group stacking on her and killing her and thought it was too easy.

After 54 level 50 and 48 level 38 Fractal without a single skin drop and only 4 ascended chest, I am done.

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

loseridoit.2756

The level of synergy required in a team to remove her stack without getting hit is unrealistic, even in organized groups. There is always a person that dodge the wrong way and get the AoE away or the aggro of mai trin. Same goes for those “invisible” cannon AoE during cannon phase, it’s really frustrating.

The damage she was doing pre-patch was actually perfect. This once again show that Anet doesn’t try their content, they probably watched that one video of a Cleric group stacking on her and killing her and thought it was too easy.

After 54 level 50 and 48 level 38 Fractal without a single skin drop and only 4 ascended chest, I am done.

did you have fun?

I rather fight the grawl shamen fract boss twice than this boss……

at least the grawl shamen encounter is pretty fun after awhile

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Posted by: Saint.5647

Saint.5647

It’s bad because the effort in completing this encounter in nowhere comes close to the reward you get for completing it.

The effort for fractals hasn’t been rewarding in the traditional sense to begin with. It’s still the closest to testing your group though and is probably the most fun “dungeon” in the game.

Run with a close group of friends and it’s a blast.

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Posted by: ODB.6891

ODB.6891

It’s bad because the effort in completing this encounter in nowhere comes close to the reward you get for completing it.

The effort for fractals hasn’t been rewarding in the traditional sense to begin with. It’s still the closest to testing your group though and is probably the most fun “dungeon” in the game.

Run with a close group of friends and it’s a blast.

“Run with a close group of friends… " should not be a requirement to have fun. Even then, who’s to say that all of those friends aren’t even more terri-bad than the average pug.

This would be a moot point if you could simply choose not to get mai trin as your final encounter, but I am personally against limiting the already limited rng of which fractal encounters you get.

I think the correct solution is to have deeper game play challenges than ridiculous one-shot mechanics…especially when you make them a combination of either undodgeable or unblockable. An encounter that spams one-shots every few seconds, for the entire encounter is not my idea of a fun or interesting encounter.

The only reason I can see that they would even think to ramp up the incoming damage from this encounter, would be to over compensate for those wearing “tank” or “healer” gear…and managing to negate/trivialize the majority of her previous damage. Those wearing zerk gear were already having to dodge/block/cleanse to survive this….so this really added nothing new to them….just more extreme overkill. I think the more logical solution to that problem, with trivializing her damage output through gear, would have been to nerf the mitigation from the gear….just like they nerfed the damage output from zerk gear (for the exact same reason…trivializing the encounters through gear).

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Posted by: Veydar.5017

Veydar.5017

Fix rewards and buff the other boss fractals so they’re at the same difficulty level as MT.
I think its nice that MT on 50 requires more coordination than other PvE encounters and it’s totally okay that the difficulty increases substantially if you’re running a … Let’s say creative party composition. Were talking about the only challenging pve content except for soloing stuffso please don’t trivialize this by making it accessible for everyone.
It is absolutely crucial that they improve rewards though.

Side note for OP: sword 3 on thief and smokescreen its just super annoying when she decides in the last second to turn around and shoot you instead of the party member she was aiming at initially. This could be fixed by targeting reticle under player that then locks so players don’t waste blocks etc, because they’re afraid she could change targets.