Guild Wars 2

colesy.8490:

If a group ask for a gear ping, chances are they’re going to want you to have full berserker, and if you don’t, then why did you join? They will always make it clear on the lfg if they want a ping so it’s your fault if you enter and get booted, just how I won’t join an all classes casual run and then complain when it takes slave driver longer than a time warp to down.

That’s a different thing – from your wording seemed like every single group would do that as default, it’s obvious that if somebody write in the LFG “gearcheck zerk” i’m expecting that.

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

AndrewSX.3794:

colesy.8490:

If a group ask for a gear ping, chances are they’re going to want you to have full berserker, and if you don’t, then why did you join? They will always make it clear on the lfg if they want a ping so it’s your fault if you enter and get booted, just how I won’t join an all classes casual run and then complain when it takes slave driver longer than a time warp to down.

That’s a different thing – from your wording seemed like every single group would do that as default, it’s obvious that if somebody write in the LFG “gearcheck zerk” i’m expecting that.

When have you ever seen a group make a gearcheck in a dungeon for rabid or PVT or anything like that?

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

guild mate of mine spec a very decent sword ranger , i never ask what his traits and utility , but we take the exact same time to down slave driver with 3 warrior 1 ranger 1 mesmer , compare to our usual roaster 3 warrior 1 thief 1 mesmer.

For our runs , we usually utilized combo field before every fight (slave, efiggy, brazier)
a warrior will carry longbow and cast firefield before start , then the other warrior will cast warhorn 5 (blast finisher), summon banner(blast finisher) and thief’s cluster bomb , thus we can always get full 25stack of might before every fight. Battle standard(s) is also a good way to maintain our might stacks and fury duration.

One thing about mesmer is , we spec it with Lyssa rune, thus mesmer will cast staff’s Chaos storm , TW , gain all boon and lastly SOI for teammate.
Our warrior will take empowered traits which gives bonus damage according on how much boon you have. This will further increase our output damage and 10 seconds to down legendary efiggy is possible.

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

I have been running swords and spirits before The Masked Paradigm and the rest of the min/max guilds started posting record time attacks. :p

I was running frost spirit and 25 in nature magic before they combined the now extinct spiritual knowledge and vigorous spirits traits. In fact, I was getting made fun of for using spirits and there was a long thread, roughly march or april timeframe, where a few people did “zomg maths!” to try and show me “why spirits suck, noob”.

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

guild mate of mine spec a very decent sword ranger , i never ask what his traits and utility , but we take the exact same time to down slave driver with 3 warrior 1 ranger 1 mesmer , compare to our usual roaster 3 warrior 1 thief 1 mesmer.

For our runs , we usually utilized combo field before every fight (slave, efiggy, brazier)
a warrior will carry longbow and cast firefield before start , then the other warrior will cast warhorn 5 (blast finisher), summon banner(blast finisher) and thief’s cluster bomb , thus we can always get full 25stack of might before every fight. Battle standard(s) is also a good way to maintain our might stacks and fury duration.

One thing about mesmer is , we spec it with Lyssa rune, thus mesmer will cast staff’s Chaos storm , TW , gain all boon and lastly SOI for teammate.
Our warrior will take empowered traits which gives bonus damage according on how much boon you have. This will further increase our output damage and 10 seconds to down legendary efiggy is possible.

Each guild I’ve been in has just been full of shortbow spam rangers.

It’s depressing really that people would so happily play badly just because they’re lazy.

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

ccspokai.6941:

colesy.8490:

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

i will accept ranger , if they are sword spec , it deal decent amount of damage that can parred with thief

I have never met a sword spec ranger.

guild mate of mine spec a very decent sword ranger , i never ask what his traits and utility , but we take the exact same time to down slave driver with 3 warrior 1 ranger 1 mesmer , compare to our usual roaster 3 warrior 1 thief 1 mesmer.

For our runs , we usually utilized combo field before every fight (slave, efiggy, brazier)
a warrior will carry longbow and cast firefield before start , then the other warrior will cast warhorn 5 (blast finisher), summon banner(blast finisher) and thief’s cluster bomb , thus we can always get full 25stack of might before every fight. Battle standard(s) is also a good way to maintain our might stacks and fury duration.

One thing about mesmer is , we spec it with Lyssa rune, thus mesmer will cast staff’s Chaos storm , TW , gain all boon and lastly SOI for teammate.
Our warrior will take empowered traits which gives bonus damage according on how much boon you have. This will further increase our output damage and 10 seconds to down legendary efiggy is possible.

Each guild I’ve been in has just been full of shortbow spam rangers.

It’s depressing really that people would so happily play badly just because they’re lazy.

actually , i gathered elite player from several guilds and made a temporary guild to make us easier for quality farming.
shortbow can deal decent damage , but not as good as sword.

the con of sword ranger is much vulnerable to range damage since ranger is literally weaker in terms on defense , in that case i would recommend sword axe that cast defensive bubble to block range attack.
i have tried it out in PvP and it works quite well.

if someone have better skill rotation for close quarter combat please share it out, i am eagerly to learn.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

Lol I hate making videos though :p

I did talk a lot about it but was always shouted down, made fun of, or basically ignored so I gave up. I had no street cred. You do, thank you for getting the message out.

Remember how Guang was treated at first? I was treated the same way here, on guru, and on reddit. I didn’t have the math and experience like Guang to argue my points as well as he does though. I’m an intuitive player who avoids math in gw2. I also refused to level other professions and spent more time playing than min/max’ing.

Before you came on the scene, I asked DnT’s guild leaders if I could join to theorycraft ranger in dungeons. I was laughed at and ignored. I think that’s when I gave up on helping the community. My primary guild is Strikeforce so, as you’re probably aware, we do more wvw than pve. And by more I mean most of my guildies don’t PvE at all unless it’s a guild mission. So I wasn’t ever in a position to do what you did.

I’m no genius. You play ranger long enough you start to figure out “oh I need fortifying bond” or “wait a second, spirits aren’t paper” or “ah, that’s how the sword is played!”

Seriously, thanks for finally showing everyone that ranger is “OK”. I am grateful for that! Rock on!

Chopps.5047:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

Lol I hate making videos though :p

I did talk a lot about it but was always shouted down, made fun of, or basically ignored so I gave up. I had no street cred. You do, thank you for getting the message out.

Remember how Guang was treated at first? I was treated the same way here, on guru, and on reddit. I didn’t have the math and experience like Guang to argue my points as well as he does though.

Seriously, though, thanks for finally showing everyone that ranger is “OK”. I am grateful for that! Rock on!

why would people underestimate sword ranger
i believe each profession does relatively high melee dps and weaker range dps (well not engineer bcz they dont have melee)

ccspokai.6941:

Chopps.5047:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

Lol I hate making videos though :p

I did talk a lot about it but was always shouted down, made fun of, or basically ignored so I gave up. I had no street cred. You do, thank you for getting the message out.

Remember how Guang was treated at first? I was treated the same way here, on guru, and on reddit. I didn’t have the math and experience like Guang to argue my points as well as he does though.

Seriously, though, thanks for finally showing everyone that ranger is “OK”. I am grateful for that! Rock on!

why would people underestimate sword ranger
i believe each profession does relatively high melee dps and weaker range dps (well not engineer bcz they dont have melee)

At the time people would post screen caps of their random ranger alt hitting for 1k sword crits and then they’d laugh about it. In reality, buffed and with level 80 traits, you can be doing 2.5k crits pretty easily, not to mention the pet. So I’d make that argument and I’d get 50 responses saying basically “you can never factor in pet because it’s usually dead”. Then I’d explain how my pets don’t die in dungeons and then they’d rip on me for taking a drake instead of a cat all the time.

I seriously could not win. Were you around to see those debates?

Chopps.5047:

ccspokai.6941:

Chopps.5047:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Of course, Guang and Brazil get all the credit for that build. If it wasn’t for Brazil and his meddling bear, I’d be kind of a big deal. Lol

You had a much longer time and a greater opportunity to do exactly what Guang and I did and you did not accomplish that.

Lol I hate making videos though :p

I did talk a lot about it but was always shouted down, made fun of, or basically ignored so I gave up. I had no street cred. You do, thank you for getting the message out.

Remember how Guang was treated at first? I was treated the same way here, on guru, and on reddit. I didn’t have the math and experience like Guang to argue my points as well as he does though.

Seriously, though, thanks for finally showing everyone that ranger is “OK”. I am grateful for that! Rock on!

why would people underestimate sword ranger
i believe each profession does relatively high melee dps and weaker range dps (well not engineer bcz they dont have melee)

At the time people would post screen caps of their random ranger alt hitting for 1k sword crits and then they’d laugh about it. In reality, buffed and with level 80 traits, you can be doing 2.5k crits pretty easily, not to mention the pet. So I’d make that argument and I’d get 50 responses saying basically “you can never factor in pet because it’s usually dead”. Then I’d explain how my pets don’t die in dungeons and then they’d rip on me for taking a drake instead of a cat all the time.

I seriously could not win. Were you around to see those debates?

If you had made a video of a 16 second Evolved Destroyer fight, a really fast CoF run with visibly high DPS, anything like that, you could have gotten people’s attention. Coming into forums without any form of numbers or videos (videos are really the way to go) won’t get you far. The one video I’ve seen from you…. I don’t know if it was serious or not. I don’t think it really helped to change anyone’s mind, though. Numbers alone aren’t really enough to change most people’s mind unless it’s a huge single number like the last hit of Hundred Blades. That’s why people think that Warrior is the end-all of DPS. I’ve managed to somehow not provide any math and still gain recognition, but I think it’s because people are able to see the the damage I’m doing in videos.

Also, debates aren’t so much about winning. The point of a debate is to change the listener’s mind. Both parties of a debate often feel that they have won despite the circumstances.

The only number I care about is right here. It’s the only one that matters.

Sure, it’s a shame I never had people around me willing to speed run. No one I know does that, I have never ran a speed run (though I am quite capable), and anyone I asked—like Obal—just basically told me to roll warrior then we could talk.

I don’t really care about recognition though, I was joking (hence the Kind of a Big Deal phrase). I’m just glad that when I pug high level fractals, people don’t kick me. That’s all I ever wanted: to be able to do my favorite thing which is to ranger in dungeons.

And now I can. So many people are rolling ranger just because of that 5:27 cof run. It’s been so much better to play gw2…I was on the verge of quitting to be completely honest. For me, it was hard to reconcile my love of the ranger profession with the community’s rejection of rangers. Because if I wasn’t playing ranger, I wasn’t min/max’ing fun. If I was playing ranger, I just got crapped on.

Hey, Brazil, my man—I’m just glad to be here. You’re a better player than me anyways, you deserve all the recognition you get.

I have to work now. Bleh. Happy hunting!

AndrewSX.3794:

colesy.8490:

Most likely they ask for a gear ping. You have the wrong gear.They kick you.

What is wrong with this?

That bolded thing.

Who decided what’s wrogn and what’s right for me?

inbefore full durrserker everywhere with every build with every team or gtfo.

/sarcasm

Just ping a fake thing. If they think something is wrong, just say you used a T-stone….but apart from CoF gear, I doubt most pugs will be able to recognize the different armor sets.

Chopps.5047:

Sure, it’s a shame I never had people around me willing to speed run. No one I know does that, I have never ran a speed run (though I am quite capable), and anyone I asked—like Obal—just basically told me to roll warrior then we could talk.

I don’t really care about recognition though, I was joking (hence the Kind of a Big Deal phrase). I’m just glad that when I pug high level fractals, people don’t kick me. That’s all I ever wanted: to be able to do my favorite thing which is to ranger in dungeons.

And now I can. So many people are rolling ranger just because of that 5:27 cof run. It’s been so much better to play gw2…I was on the verge of quitting to be completely honest. For me, it was hard to reconcile my love of the ranger profession with the community’s rejection of rangers. Because if I wasn’t playing ranger, I wasn’t min/max’ing fun. If I was playing ranger, I just got crapped on.

Hey, Brazil, my man—I’m just glad to be here. You’re a better player than me anyways, you deserve all the recognition you get.

I have to work now. Bleh. Happy hunting!

It confuses me when people are nice to me…. I’d rather you just call me something insulting and say “Thanks, I mean it.” But anyhow, I’m glad that it helped you and I’m sorry for helping form the bias against Rangers.

but the bias against rangers is still justified in like 95% of cases now. Down from 99.7%.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

It confuses me when people are nice to me….

It happens when one gains respect among the community. Now you can literaly kitten on top of us and we will thank you for gold falling from the sky

Broadicea.8294:

but the bias against rangers is still justified in like 95% of cases now. Down from 99.7%.

I think people just confuse Range r with Archer or Hunter, while Ranger is kind of versatile elite soldier capable of putting down enemy in many ways. Although I wish my ranger alt could tear the world apart with his long bow and short bow.

Dolan.3071:

Good joke.
They’ll take one step into TA and get wiped just trying to run to the Nightmare Vines. Then they will change to their full Clerics Guardian and complain to the forums about how they took away the only zerk-able dungeon. Don’t give credit where credit isn’t due.

As for your other points, you can revamp a dungeon as much as you want to make it the most interesting and involved fight there is. But as long as its a farmable exp path people are just going to run it to death and complain about how easy and boring it is. There’s not a whole lot wrong with the current dungeons, they’re just old, and easy tactics have been mastered long ago. All that’s left is fine tuning in the effort to shave a few seconds off.

The reflect zerker guard they bring will swap in a staff for mowing the lawn.

Player Character.9467:

The reflect zerker guard they bring will swap in a staff for mowing the lawn.

Don’t even try. They know better

A berserker guard? That’s not 4W/1M, Guardians don’t even hit a really high number after doing hundred blades…

You can fix Ranger by changing 3 things.
1) Make pets evade when the Ranger does. It wouldn’t be hard to add and in a game where dodging is 90% of your damage mitigation, it is unacceptable that pets can’t dodge.
2) Fix the sword auto attack chain so you’re not constantly kitten-kitten ing everywhere. Just a stationary auto attack like every other profession will do.
3) To fix the mentality that most Rangers have, simply change the name of the profession to Hunter and remove all connotations that this is a ‘ranged only class’.

Bam new Meta, I’ll be off gearing my Ranger.

The first two points don’t even matter, it’s 3 that’s causing 99.9% of the problems.

Seeing rangers camp with a bow just makes me want to punch my screen.

colesy.8490:

The first two points don’t even matter, it’s 3 that’s causing 99.9% of the problems.

Seeing rangers camp with a bow just makes me want to punch my screen.

The other problem with the game is that when someone enjoys playing Bow class there’s not much choice. Warrior uses bow to stack might and nothing else really, and Thief is better short bow user than Ranger will ever be. Not to mention that ranged weapons for some reason deal significantly less dmg with the same/less attack ratio.

However I must admit that sniping people of with F1 in WvW rifle was kind of hillarous for a while.