Guild Wars 2

What about me? I’m on full CoF gear. Or I might just go in with full Arah set + glowing capacitor + DM title. That should give a bit of credibility, right?

What about my Worn Chain gear? And Dull Axe?

Wethospu.6437:

What about my Worn Chain gear? And Dull Axe?

And my axe?

But I’ve pressed 2 to win against everything back in October…

Dolan plz

I just advise you that most experienced players thinks zerker warriors are best from cof1 to arah 4 or fotm 48….

And nobody yet proved them wrong.

Only difference in difficult content is you need 1 or 2 guardians depending on difficulty.

But 2-3 warriors spamming 2 are still exptremely efficient everywhere.

Not like current pugs are any better. At least the CoF farm people will be in zerker gear.

At least the CoF farmers will know how to use melee weapons.

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If I wear full Arah gear, I’ll be the king of gw?

rafi.2304:

If I wear full Arah gear, I’ll be the king of gw?

yep

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

rafi.2304:

If I wear full Arah gear, I’ll be the king of gw?

yep

nice, i am king * 4 and queen * 4

True kings wear an oven (SE chest).

Brazil: King of the…Simin mystery? No…king of the rangers? No, too over the top.

Brazil: King of the Longbow Bears.

I like it.

Chopps.5047:

Brazil: King of the…Simin mystery? No…king of the rangers? No, too over the top.

Brazil: King of the Longbow Bears.

I like it.

You could just keep it simple and say “Brazil: King of Guild Wars 2”

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Brazil: King of the…Simin mystery? No…king of the rangers? No, too over the top.

Brazil: King of the Longbow Bears.

I like it.

You could just keep it simple and say “Brazil: King of Guild Wars 2”

Whoa whoa whoa! Let’s not go too far! King of the Longbow Bears it is!!! Glad you like it

Chopps.5047:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Chopps.5047:

Brazil: King of the…Simin mystery? No…king of the rangers? No, too over the top.

Brazil: King of the Longbow Bears.

I like it.

You could just keep it simple and say “Brazil: King of Guild Wars 2”

Whoa whoa whoa! Let’s not go too far! King of the Longbow Bears it is!!! Glad you like it

I could be king of the low DPS whirling axes.

Hey, I have retaliation now at least. :p

Ive been known to drop bosses with just a stare. 0.0——-

So my zerk gear should be a welcomed addition to a pug group.

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

Not so much worried about their competence, heck no dungeon is hard, it might take a few runs to get the run down but after that?

We will however get these elitist PUG req. that is multiple runs multiple dungeons and all of them speedruns using any trix/bugs there is. Just as we had with CoF…

What will be more interesting is how the gold return is calculated and how that will influence these “farm” runs. If its set per dungeon (as the devs assume this dugeon is worth this much) or if it is in relation to the amount of time spent inside the instance and/or how fast the bosses go down.

Would be hilarious if we have farm runs that go Hey we have to wait 14.37s now before killing final boss

Uh, I for one am incredibly happy at the idea that players will begin to explore other dungeon content. There’s a lot more to dungeons than CoF1. I welcome anyone that wants to join (with a Melee spec and full Berserker gear)!

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

Problem is that being in zerk gear doesn’t preclude your ranger from being a longbow/bear baby. Not everyone will recognize your pro ranger internet celebrity status on sight. As far as pugs is concerned, everyone else is just another pug. And a equally bad one at that.

Marrond.1385:

Chopps.5047:

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

If someone kicked your ranger from CoF farm because of your class he’s just so dumb it’s not worth thinking about it. Any class (maybe except Elementalists since they’re extra squishy) in zerker gear just tear through enemies. Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs). Also don’t confuse elitism with blindness

Some small fraction of players who farmed CoF suck at dungeons. That does not mean that someone in CoF armor sucks at dungeons. To be honest, as a player who prefers ranger in dungeons, I’m more worried about elitism than anything else. Also: nothing wrong with full berserker gears.

Actualy huge fraction sucks. People post “only experienced”, “speed run”, “gear check”, “only ascended” and then you’re seeing them not knowing how to speed up NPC, not stacking adrenaline, mesmer doesn’t using feedback or pulls wrongly, mesmers that doesn’t use inspiration ring, warriors that don’t care to FGJ at the same time so Mesmer can multiply might stacks… and so on, and so on… this run is really easy and fast to do but so many people fail at it, it’s a pain.

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

And for as long as 99.9% of rangers sit there shortbow spamming with bear pet, i’ll just kick them on sight. Brazil’s tests do make me want to level one up and test them out in my farming group though so I can see on my very own game whether they’re worth it or if the spot can just be filled with another war like it usually is which has the plus of having more room for error unlike the ranger with the rooting attack chain.

colesy.8490:

People boot rangers because the population of competent, proven rangers is Brazil and … nobody else.

Hah I know where are you coming from but actualy I’ve met like 4 of them during farming last week. Brazil post his builds and ideas and quite a few people are following his notes which is awesome actualy. If someone says he’s doing well I’m allways eager to give him chance and see it – afterall I don’t post pro super speed experienced link gear lfgs but rather looking for classes with DPS build (it’s actualy easier to find competent people that way, since people think they’re competent if they roll mesmer/warrior, can throw down banner and got few ascended trinkets). Also one gorgeous zerk guardian who actualy speed up our runs with as optimized build as possible, and who is kicked from most “pro groups” before even linking gear only because sole fact he’s guardian

As for rolling Ranger – I certainly will. I wanted to do it since early access but back then Ranger was quite meh and I decided to main Thief as I was playing mainly WvW untill they broke it (invisible zergs, etc.). But right now I’m even more intrested in Engineer. Was allways curious about this class since there were very few people who played it and even less than few were actualy doing good.

Marrond.1385:

Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs).

I’m not too sure about that.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs).

I’m not too sure about that.

I’m not too sure too, but this is just my personal impresion. However timing is very similar to say the least. You should do some tests and post it

Marrond.1385:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs).

I’m not too sure about that.

I’m not too sure too, but this is just my personal impresion. However timing is very similar to say the least. You should do some tests and post it

I’ve already got this: http://youtu.be/tIu_ZktvlZ4

Ranger could probably do it fast with a Jaguar / Jungle Stalker, Hunter’s Call, Quickening Zephyr, and Sword. It’s something I’ll for sure test when I go into CoF next, but I have no idea when that will be.

It’s scary how accurate it was when you named your bear “The New Meta”.

Organised groups are probably going to be sticking in a ranger for their farming groups now.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs).

I’m not too sure about that.

I’m not too sure too, but this is just my personal impresion. However timing is very similar to say the least. You should do some tests and post it

I’ve already got this: http://youtu.be/tIu_ZktvlZ4

Ranger could probably do it fast with a Jaguar / Jungle Stalker, Hunter’s Call, Quickening Zephyr, and Sword. It’s something I’ll for sure test when I go into CoF next, but I have no idea when that will be.

I will ask guy when he’s online what setup he’s using. Using sword for sure though.

Marrond.1385:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Marrond.1385:

Not to mention full zerk ranger melts gate faster than full zerk thief (which is often taken to farm runs).

I’m not too sure about that.

I’m not too sure too, but this is just my personal impresion. However timing is very similar to say the least. You should do some tests and post it

I’ve already got this: http://youtu.be/tIu_ZktvlZ4

Ranger could probably do it fast with a Jaguar / Jungle Stalker, Hunter’s Call, Quickening Zephyr, and Sword. It’s something I’ll for sure test when I go into CoF next, but I have no idea when that will be.

I will ask guy when he’s online what setup he’s using. Using sword for sure though.

Have the warrior drop banners by the door, set Frost Spirit, and have Stalker use Mighty Roar before the gate opens. Then run in while casting Signet of the Wild with Signet of the Beastmaster traited and pop QZ. Then Path of Scars > auto-attack and it should die in 3-4 seconds tops, provided you don’t screw it up somehow.

This makes me laugh. Why does everyone have this thinking that CoF zerk warriors are complete noobs? I run a zerk warrior for CoF farming, I stick to zerk groups. I have never encountered a terrible player in those groups.

However I once took my warrior to a normal everyone welcome CoF group.

We found it hard to get past the slave driver……

Don’t hate the serious CoF Farmers, we are not bad players. The bad players are the people that occupy the normal CoF groups.

Because pug CoF warrior farmers can’t even get 4 runs per omnom. They don’t know how to do a proper rotations, they don’t know how to dodge, they don’t know how to swap weapons for a better run time, they don’t know how to do anything if an enemy lasts longer than 20 seconds. I’m not saying this applies to all CoF farmers, just the vast majority of groups on LFG. When was the last time you joined a pug group of 4W1M that could do runs under 7-8 minutes?

And don’t get me started on the mesmers…

We found it hard to get past the slave driver……

What? Oh come on. Are you serious?
That has never happened to me in any configuration of any classes with any builds.
I’ve wandered there with newbies, because I genuinely like doing that, and we still didn’t have problems with that loot pinata.

At least the memsers know what a focus pull is from doing the zerk speed clear groups. If you pug anything else or even cof 1 normal groups it is as rare to see a mesmer use a focus pull as it is to see a ranger with a melee weapon.

Don’t get mad guys, . ..remember the OP was only trying to help

obal.3218:

… as rare to see a mesmer use a focus pull as it is to see a ranger with a melee weapon.

Someone saw me in WvW the other night and actually made a big deal about this. Infact I get weird looks there all the time just for running sword & GS… I’m almost certain at this point that the majority of players out there think a ranger is actually gimping itself by NOT USING bows in WvW & Dungeons … B/c that’s what that guy was implying…

There’s more to GW2 life than being a zerker in CoF path 1. Although, zerkers can make any path easier in any dungeon- unless they are dead practically the entire dungeon, screaming at everyone else since it’s clearly the other players fault that the zerker is dead. If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

Chasind.3128:

There’s more to GW2 life than being a zerker in CoF path 1. Although, zerkers can make any path easier in any dungeon- unless they are dead practically the entire dungeon, screaming at everyone else since it’s clearly the other players fault that the zerker is dead. If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

The best players do wear Berserker’s gear. Unfortunately, so do the people that are wannabe best players. They give us a bad name (me speaking as one of the best players, of course).

Me and a guildie pugged TA last night, we got a pug berzerker ranger using sword the whole time.

My jaw dropped to the other side of the earth

Chasind.3128:

If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

They actualy do, one of them just answered your post above me (edit: now two posts above me xD). That’s how dungeons in GW2 are designed. All you need to do is simply to punch the sandbag untill it’s dead. Problem for any zerker – pro, or not pro starts when his team simply lack dmg to put down enemy fast enough so they run of every possible cooldown to avoid and/or mitigate incoming damage. CoF for example is easy as kitten. 4 warriors tear through slaver in like what, 5-8s? With “pro” healing, toughness, vitality builds in your party it simply take AGES to bring one down – and if you have zerkarrior he’s most likely downed or dead if he couldn’t get rid of aggro. How about punching last boss without any result because your team can’t overcome his healing without 3 people being busy destroying the crystals? Or let’s take TA F/U – hundreds of people cry all over the place how impossible last boss is while all you have to do is to have decent DPS, some kind of projectile reflection and you tear through him in 20s or so not even pressing a dodge. It’s not rocket science. I’m average player that makes tons of mistakes and I maybe could lick Brazil’s shoes, and that’s if he let me to – I have completely no problem running content with full zerker team, that consist atleast one mesmer and one guardian. But when I join team that think it’s fun to bash enemy for half an hour well then that’s a whole diffrent story.

Chasind.3128:

There’s more to GW2 life than being a zerker in CoF path 1. Although, zerkers can make any path easier in any dungeon- unless they are dead practically the entire dungeon, screaming at everyone else since it’s clearly the other players fault that the zerker is dead. If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

Unfortunately, there are more bad players than ‘best’ players, so it’ll often appear that way

Marrond.1385:

Chasind.3128:

If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

They actualy do, one of them just answered your post above me (edit: now two posts above me xD). That’s how dungeons in GW2 are designed. All you need to do is simply to punch the sandbag untill it’s dead. Problem for any zerker – pro, or not pro starts when his team simply lack dmg to put down enemy fast enough so they run of every possible cooldown to avoid and/or mitigate incoming damage. CoF for example is easy as kitten. 4 warriors tear through slaver in like what, 5-8s? With “pro” healing, toughness, vitality builds in your party it simply take AGES to bring one down – and if you have zerkarrior he’s most likely downed or dead if he couldn’t get rid of aggro. How about punching last boss without any result because your team can’t overcome his healing without 3 people being busy destroying the crystals? Or let’s take TA F/U – hundreds of people cry all over the place how impossible last boss is while all you have to do is to have decent DPS, some kind of projectile reflection and you tear through him in 20s or so not even pressing a dodge. It’s not rocket science. I’m average player that makes tons of mistakes and I maybe could lick Brazil’s shoes, and that’s if he let me to – I have completely no problem running content with full zerker team, that consist atleast one mesmer and one guardian. But when I join team that think it’s fun to bash enemy for half an hour well then that’s a whole diffrent story.

You don’t have to lick my shoes. Just make a fool out of all of the bad players you come across. I don’t even wear shoes, anyways.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

You don’t have to lick my shoes. I don’t even wear shoes, anyways.

You’re such an sarcastic kitten it’s beyond me. Especialy when I read it in mind with your boring and untentertaining voice. Too bad there’s no downvote button here :P

Exactly what Broadicea said.
Go join an “EXPERIENCED ZERK ONLY $$$$ 6 DAY FARM NO NOOBS THUGLYF” group and ask yourself if they’ll ever be able to do something as faceroll as CoE.

Marrond.1385:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

You don’t have to lick my shoes. I don’t even wear shoes, anyways.

You’re such an sarcastic kitten it’s beyond me. Especialy when I read it in mind with your boring and untentertaining voice. Too bad there’s no downvote button here :P

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Dolan.3071:

Exactly what Broadicea said.
Go join an “EXPERIENCED ZERK ONLY $$$$ 6 DAY FARM NO NOOBS THUGLYF” group and ask yourself if they’ll ever be able to do something as faceroll as CoE.

They will faceroll whole TA including “impossibru” path F/U, Arah and whatever you throw at them really – only fractals are harder to zerk through because they were introduced later and fixed some design flaws of regular dungeons. They might fail few times but they will faceroll any dungeon due to current game design. Unless they’re actual kittens that is – and there’s a whole army of them.

By the way I wish they’ve revmaped Dungeons totaly. So they’re both entertaining AND rewarding, and doesn’t involve anything “daily” other than achievement and dungeon tokens. I would simply die for dungeon when you actualy have to think and work for your victory other than puching mindless sandbag where difficulty level means more HP on mentioned sandbag. Also no kittened invincible mechanics that prevent you from dealing dmg. I wish that at the end of dungeon I could fight for example huge Wyvern so my team would have to operate siege equipment to bring him down, break his wings so he cannot escape and is forced to fight on the ground then using terrain advantages to break his huge scales to gain permanent vulnerability status or something like that (ofc boss should be killable “pug way” but it should take considerably more time, like for example simple short underwater fractal where you have to lure boss to shock cages unless you want to fight him for one and the half of century), cut of it’s tail so it wouldn’t do huge devastating aoe sweep all arround. Maybe climb on the huge boss like in Shadow of the Colossus to cause dmg. For example I like mechanics in Dredge fractal – as much as I hate Dredges and the whole fractal ending with Ice Elemental yields simple mechanics that’s good beggining of hopefuly better future. I liked dungeon that was introduced temporarily with aetherized living story – it actualy required just a slight thought process instead of repeatedly pressing 1 button until enemy is dead. It was entertaining in comparisment to regular dungeons but it’s still not what I would run until my eyes bleed and my fingertips crack. Idea behind explorable dungeons was great but execution is terrible and unchanged since release even a bit. But I guess we should be happy with 2weeks meaningless updates that add bunch of average skins and one decent and some trivial storyline with characters that possess no proper introduction nor charisma (that’s actualy problem with regular GW2 story but that’s a whole diffrent thing).

Good joke.
They’ll take one step into TA and get wiped just trying to run to the Nightmare Vines. Then they will change to their full Clerics Guardian and complain to the forums about how they took away the only zerk-able dungeon. Don’t give credit where credit isn’t due.

As for your other points, you can revamp a dungeon as much as you want to make it the most interesting and involved fight there is. But as long as its a farmable exp path people are just going to run it to death and complain about how easy and boring it is. There’s not a whole lot wrong with the current dungeons, they’re just old, and easy tactics have been mastered long ago. All that’s left is fine tuning in the effort to shave a few seconds off.

Marrond.1385:

Chasind.3128:

If only the best players wore zerker gear; seems to be mostly the opposite – but those ppl live in CoF P1

They actualy do, one of them just answered your post above me (edit: now two posts above me xD). That’s how dungeons in GW2 are designed. All you need to do is simply to punch the sandbag untill it’s dead. Problem for any zerker – pro, or not pro starts when his team simply lack dmg to put down enemy fast enough so they run of every possible cooldown to avoid and/or mitigate incoming damage. CoF for example is easy as kitten. 4 warriors tear through slaver in like what, 5-8s? With “pro” healing, toughness, vitality builds in your party it simply take AGES to bring one down – and if you have zerkarrior he’s most likely downed or dead if he couldn’t get rid of aggro. How about punching last boss without any result because your team can’t overcome his healing without 3 people being busy destroying the crystals? Or let’s take TA F/U – hundreds of people cry all over the place how impossible last boss is while all you have to do is to have decent DPS, some kind of projectile reflection and you tear through him in 20s or so not even pressing a dodge. It’s not rocket science. I’m average player that makes tons of mistakes and I maybe could lick Brazil’s shoes, and that’s if he let me to – I have completely no problem running content with full zerker team, that consist atleast one mesmer and one guardian. But when I join team that think it’s fun to bash enemy for half an hour well then that’s a whole diffrent story.

See and this is the problem with dungeon runs in general. the MAJOR difference in play speed, damage per second, and efficiency. CoF speed farmer would cry (almost literally) if their CoF path 1 speed run took a whole 1 extra minute longer because someone in the party miss timed a dodge or something. The extreme dungeon running elitism attitude gets on a lot of people’s nerves, my friends included. It just shows how varied the power levels of characters can be in a dungeon party. I hate elitist dungeon people who kick you because you either are missing a single gear item they think you should have, or something similar.

Most likely they ask for a gear ping. You have the wrong gear. They kick you.

What is wrong with this?

colesy.8490:

Most likely they ask for a gear ping. You have the wrong gear.They kick you.

What is wrong with this?

That bolded thing.

Who decided what’s wrogn and what’s right for me?

inbefore full durrserker everywhere with every build with every team or gtfo.

/sarcasm

The meta decided.

If a group ask for a gear ping, chances are they’re going to want you to have full berserker, and if you don’t, then why did you join? They will always make it clear on the lfg if they want a ping so it’s your fault if you enter and get booted, just how I won’t join an all classes casual run and then complain when it takes slave driver longer than a time warp to down.