Guild Wars 2

This will be broken into two parts due to post restrictions and people who may or may not have ADD with reading something on the forums.

I previously made a thread called PuG Story Time: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/PuG-Story-Time-Some-people-can-t-learn/first#post2324398

I presumed in this above thread that I had seen the creme de la creme of just stupidness, but I was wrong. I would relive that Pug Story Time twice more if it meant that the party I was just in today would never show their faces in Fractals ever again. I’d relive it 3 times over if these people would simply delete their characters and quit GW2 entirely.

I need a good guild that likes to do different levels of fractals because I simply am at the level where I don’t even feel like I have fun with Fractals anymore, which is something I usually love playing.

I’ve tried to be positive, I’ve had good parties and I’ve had absolutely awful parties, but what I have just experienced takes the cake. The incident I am about to describe is the type of incident (at least, for me, personally) that for a split moment seriously makes you consider rage quitting.

Today, all I wanted was a simple 28 to finish my daily. That’s it.
I had a really, really bad day today for personal reasons and all I wanted to do was have a peaceful session of Guild Wars 2 closing my horrible night, getting my daily done.

And so, I found a party for 28, and I spent a considerable chunk of my night dedicated to it.

During our second fractal, we rolled the Asuran Fractal. This is where I noticed something strange with someone; someone had summoned a golem. I thought to look for any other Asuras in the party other than myself who may have accidentally popped a wrong elite skill, but couldn’t find any. I thought it was bizarre, but I never really considered it a big deal. In hindsight, I wish I had said something about how unusual it was as I probably would have avoided the unbelievably shafted/stupid situation I was about to find myself in.

The Asuran Fractal alone took most likely an hour because heading towards the Raving Asura, everyone wanted to just bypass the last 4 harpies instead of killing them, resulting in massive deaths for everyone trying to pass inwards. Eventually we made it through, and I was moderately annoyed with them for this. However, we’re almost out so I bite the bullet.

Then, Grawl came up. This is where it my hopefulness for a relaxing GW2 night turns into full blown just…agitation, annoyance and— You know what, it’s just disheartening at this point.

It was the third fractal, what was the worst that could happen? Initially we started fighting, a warrior decided to pull a grawl group too big and…everyone wipes. I’m the last to fend for myself while fighting off hoards of grawl. I eventually died due to being overwhelmed with my distortion, invulns, and evades down, and I’m growing more annoyed by their behavior, but I’ve gotten to the 3rd fractal so I’m nearly in the clear, No big deal, right?

As I am about to respawn, I find myself getting the loading screen for Lion’s Arch.

Excuse me? They must have meant to kick someone else, this has GOT to be a mistake…right?

(To be continued below)

I’m aggravated. I just got done spending 2 hours in a party to be kicked for no reason. I calmly whisper the party leader with:

“Why was I kicked?” Maybe it was a mistake.
“Because you’re using Elite Golem.”
" I have Time Warp on, we partied earlier in the day, are you serious? I would never use a Golem as an Elite for Fractals. That’s impossible."
“You’re the only Asura in the party; no one else can summon a golem”
“I have no idea—”

It struck me. The person who summoned the golem earlier in the fractals; but how did they do it? I thought to myself, knowing that I had no golem skills on, how could someone summon a golem? The only answer I could come up with was that someone was using armor that had full Runes of the Golemancer.

I’m highly upset, and I demanded that the party leader who set up the party to begin with check the party members’ gear, because I had not summoned a golem and it was unfair to kick me out after I had spent so much time getting to that point in the dungeon with them when I was 100% innocent.

He outright refuses to compromise, recruits another member and says

“It’s their call, they’re just going to keep kicking you”.
“Have them ping their gear to prove that I’m right. I am 100% certain someone in that party is using Rune of the Golemancer, and you’re simply not listening to me.”
“No.”

And with that, an entire team of idiots decides to ruin my already disastrous night. I got kicked out of a fractals for an elite skill I didn’t even use 2 hours into getting to the 3rd stage before Maw.

This is genuinely the straw that is about to break the camel’s back. If I don’t find a guild soon willing to do fractals with me, I don’t even know how I will keep interest in this game with stupid nonsense like this happening.

And so, there’s my story. Take it or leave it.

I’m pretty sure that some person will probably come unto this thread and say something like “It’s just a game, bleh bleh get over it” and trivialize everything I’ve explained, but it’s still my little sliver of what enjoyment I could have had today absolutely ruined by quite literally THE most moronic people I’ve met here.

Before I close this story, I’d like to thank “M_ndingo (Last name of a famous president/Last name of a famous African American Actor)” of some sort of Aegis tagged guild for being a completely reasonable person with the whole kicking me situation, for NOT making me incredibly angry with your stupid responses and your flippant attitude, and overall making my Guild Wars 2 such a positive experience today. Thank you, from the bottom of—It’s sarcasm. The last time I felt this relieved about having someone on my block list was, well, in my first thread of PuG Story Time.

TL;DR: Idiots made me cringe even more than my regular day had done, so I took to the forums for some therapeutic relief from the boiling annoyance I’ve experienced in Guild Wars 2.

For discussion’s sake; share your worst PuG stories with me, because my brain is simply about to melt and I need a good laugh to feel better after this horse crap.

Probably my worst PuG story so far is having some apparent drug dealer on an AC run decide to AFK to make a sale at the part with defending the two machines in the lover’s crypt or whatever that is. Can’t remember. The Gravelings run. We wiped and instantly kicked him.

I have no words to describe how crap that all sounds. You have all my sympathies and just imagine that I’ve bought you a nice cold beer (or whatever beverage you like).

Might want to edit out the name and shame bit…but on a serious note
. What server are you on?

Avelos.6798:

Probably my worst PuG story so far is having some apparent drug dealer on an AC run decide to AFK to make a sale at the part with defending the two machines in the lover’s crypt or whatever that is. Can’t remember. The Gravelings run. We wiped and instantly kicked him.

How absolutely splendid. He sounds like a troll to be honest, but you never know with some people.

zenleto.6179:

I have no words to describe how crap that all sounds. You have all my sympathies and just imagine that I’ve bought you a nice cold beer (or whatever beverage you like).

A nice Wild Turkey shot would probably do sooooo much good right now. Lol.

Tuck.4095:

Might want to edit out the name and shame bit…but on a serious note
. What server are you on?

I haven’t really directly referred to the moron’s name, so I don’t know if it’s a bad thing or not. If it turns out to be, I’ll just begrudgingly edit it out even though I sincerely want to expose this kitten to some sunlight so he can putrify and repulse everyone. I editted out one more letter to I guess keep it more vague. Bleh.

I’m on Dragonbrand.

I feel for you. Some pug situations can be unreasonably bad. That being said, scope out your servers community forums, the recruit forums here, and on your server in game for a guild. A guild makes 100% of the difference in these situations in my opinion.

Sabelle.2159:

zenleto.6179:

I have no words to describe how crap that all sounds. You have all my sympathies and just imagine that I’ve bought you a nice cold beer (or whatever beverage you like).

A nice Wild Turkey shot would probably do sooooo much good right now. Lol.

Consider it done!

Being stressed is never a good time to post. It was an honest call I believe, that you where not the one calling the golem is horrible. There is no way to prove you did not do it other than not being in the group when a golem was raised. Probably a lvl 28 fractal run with a pug is not the best way to relax anyway.

Yargesh.4965:

Being stressed is never a good time to post. It was an honest call I believe, that you where not the one calling the golem is horrible. There is no way to prove you did not do it other than not being in the group when a golem was raised. Probably a lvl 28 fractal run with a pug is not the best way to relax anyway.

It wasn’t an honest call. There was a simple way to check this by having the individuals remaining in the party ping their gear to check for the runes that would summon a Golem, yet they refused to do so out of sheer stupidity, resulting in me 100% getting the shaft simply because I happen to be an Asura.

This is the equivalent of me becoming judge and jury, sentencing you to life in prison simply because you happened upon a dead body in a room with a bloody knife on the floor, without listening to your testimony or processing any evidence.

Their behavior is simply inexcusable.

And for me, a person who generally likes fractals, I tend to find them relaxing more or less until I get the absolute worst people like exampled above.

You can still ping different gear to what you are wearing. If someone was kicked for their own mistake the first thing people do is not admit it (seeing as no one spoke up when you where kicked the odds them pinging the real gear are very small). It is not good and not right in my opinion but it is what happens.

Sabelle.2159:

Yargesh.4965:

Being stressed is never a good time to post. It was an honest call I believe, that you where not the one calling the golem is horrible. There is no way to prove you did not do it other than not being in the group when a golem was raised. Probably a lvl 28 fractal run with a pug is not the best way to relax anyway.

It wasn’t an honest call. There was a simple way to check this by having the individuals remaining in the party ping their gear to check for the runes that would summon a Golem, yet they refused to do so out of sheer stupidity, resulting in me 100% getting the shaft simply because I happen to be an Asura.

This is the equivalence of me being judge and jury sentencing you to life in prison simply because you happened upon a dead body in a room with a bloody knife on the floor, without listening to your testimony or processing any evidence.

Their behavior is simply inexcusable.

And for me, a person who generally like fractals, I tend to find them relaxing more or less until I get the absolute worst people like exampled above.

Sabelle.2159:

Avelos.6798:

Probably my worst PuG story so far is having some apparent drug dealer on an AC run decide to AFK to make a sale at the part with defending the two machines in the lover’s crypt or whatever that is. Can’t remember. The Gravelings run. We wiped and instantly kicked him.

How absolutely splendid. He sounds like a troll to be honest, but you never know with some people.

Oh he probably was. None of us cared though. It went a little like this:
Fighting -> winning -> slowly falling -> overwhelmed -> dying -> wiped. No words, just kicked. Invited new party member in, kicked kitten .

Sabelle.2159:

I had a really, really bad day today for personal reasons and all I wanted to do was have a peaceful session of Guild Wars 2 closing my horrible night, getting my daily done.

You should have gone to bed. In my experience, a bad day doesn’t usually get better.

Sounds like it was set up in the beginning, they were planning to kick you later on and just made you do all the work and get some friend/guildie. To avoid getting reported and risk a ban, they would kick you before Maw.

If they were planning to kick you for the golem in good faith then it should be when the golem popped up, not that far ahead.

Zoldyck.6241:

Sounds like it was set up in the beginning, they were planning to kick you later on and just made you do all the work and get some friend/guildie. To avoid getting reported and risk a ban, they would kick you before Maw.

If they were planning to kick you for the golem in good faith then it should be when the golem popped up, not that far ahead.

It could be a possibility, in which case it makes these people even more detestable.

I really do need to find a guild that runs fractals/other dungeons as much as I do so I can avoid situations like this.

The person of which you speak is one of the most annoying cancers on Gate of Madness and you have my sympathies for having to deal with him in a Fractals run.

Machspeedtwo.1342:

The person of which you speak is one of the most annoying cancers on Gate of Madness and you have my sympathies for having to deal with him in a Fractals run.

Oh dear. Now this has me dying of curiosity, despite discussing specifics on the forums being a tad borderline.

Yargesh.4965:

You can still ping different gear to what you are wearing.

I don’t think someone dumb enough to run the golemancer rune would have the presence of mind to have a spare set of armor to ping.

I somehow get never kicked out of parties even if it had been close to sometimes. Lately i joined an experienced arah path run of the guild [BONE]. It went… mediocre until crusher and hunter. I told them to LoS the mobs but they prefered fighting headless. No big deal, i disabled the mages (was running mesmer). Didn’t LoS the 4 silvermobs but pulling them to start so “NPCs can tank”. Then at crusher and Hunter 4 guys begin to… range attack the crusher while i go for the hunter. After ~2 minutes im done with the hunter and ask why they don’t melee. Answer: range is more damage, 35k instead of 20k. I ask: 20/35k what? “20000 and 35000!” DPS??? “No, gw2 doesnt measure damage in dps.”
I was like wtf but didn’t say anything. At lupicus i start to melee but they tell me i should range. Fine, stood there, dodging every single grub spawn and summoning phantasms on lupicus. In phase 2 they all go down and i feedback him to phase 3. They went out of fight, sometimes someone attempted to join the fight (1200 range+) but ran away if lupicus turned around. At wraithlord ritual they tell me to come into the middle (before wraiths spawned). I said “no, im not kittened enough to draw aggro when your warrior said he will kite”. Someone tells me i’m a noob and i should come in. Wraiths spawn, i turn circles red. I begin telling them their tactics are kitten and they shouldn’t look out for experienced players but for players who totally carry them. That they suck and learn to use melee weapons and that dps is what matters in gw2. They finally shut up getting all downed on wraithlord. I’m finishing the fight – and didn’t get kicked. Probably they realized i did 95% of the run.

Anyway, i feel sorry for you. The best advice i can give you: don’t do fractals. And if you do, don’t pug fractals. People always start leaving my groups when i tell them mesmer GS/Guardian scepter sucks in dredge where you need cleave damage.

Honestly, it sounds like you ended up with a team that was incredibly intolerant of failure or n00bs or ch00by fr00bs or whatever people hate these days, and singled out you as the cause of their problems because they thought you weren’t using time warp.

Think about it: kicked for not using timewarp. Even when you were, you have to remember that entitled elitists are themselves rarely good at the game or even competent.

I don’t think it was the runes that called the golem. One of the warrior’s elite skills is a golem, either offensive or defensive.

No offense to you OP, but this is just a pretty common thing now-a-days. There is probably at least one post a week complaining of getting kicked.

About 3 months ago, I was running daily 10 with people from another guild (yeah I know big mistake), but meh I went in anyway. I think I literally spent more time ressing these guys rather than actually fighting (I roll warrior). Then on Maw, I was recycling the crystals at one point to keep them from disappearing and I accidently grabbed the one closest to one of them that was about to get hit by Maw. I got insta-kicked. Obviously, I was kitten ed so I immediately whispered the party leader and wasn’t nice about it. Told me he kicked me because of the Maw thing and because, LMFAO he said I was downed most of the time. Spent about a good hour pretty kitten close to a ragequit.

Just checked it, nope, no golem Juggernaut… signet of rage…. battle standard… is your warrior perhaps an asura? ^^

As soon as you mentioned the guild above, I knew what you had to say had some merit. I’ve dealt with them before and it’s never been a particularly intelligent experience. The Golem would very likely be from rune of the golemancer and someone just doesn’t want to fess up, not sure why because the rune isn’t that bad… Most likely it’s because people do not like to admit they were wrong.. common human nature if you will. They likely popped a forehead vessel when you asked them to check their gear, people get real sensitive about that, and it’s unfortunate because it can result in such idiotic allegations.

If you need a 28, feel free to let me know, I commonly do them with my bf and a couple friends, we usually have a slot open for a pug. Rules are no magic find, that’s about it.

Yasi.9065:

Just checked it, nope, no golem Juggernaut… signet of rage…. battle standard… is your warrior perhaps an asura? ^^

Yes, I am an asura. Didn’t realize elite skills were different based on races. I know it’s there at my disposal because I use it sometimes.

My warrior is human and I have Reaper of Grenth and Avatar of Melandru instead of Golem… “normal” utility skills are slightly different too, you got what was it… technobabble? And I have prayer to dwayna, prayer to lyssa and prayer to… hu, forgot last one <blush>

There’s a bug (or at least there was one 3 months ago which I don’t think has been changed) that makes it so if you are in full CoE gear (has rune of the golemancer built in) and replace the runes, it will still keep the chance to summon a golem. It’s possible that they did check the groups armor, and they weren’t aware of this bug.

Still, people should not be kicking on the last fractal. Especially when it sounds like you were one of the few players who actually knew how to do FotM. All I can say is that you can at least take solace in the fact they probably failed repeatedly at imbued shaman.

You could have summoned the golems by a bug. if your armor was all Exotic CoE armor (regardless of the runes currently applied) at one point, your clones will all have the summon golem ability. This is a bug and I see it happen all the time. Actually it can be quite funny on Subject Alpha when 3 Mark I golems spawn and everyone goes “What the Chicken!?” when 3 golems knock alpha all over the place. Unfortunately it can also be pretty bad when a golem survives phase 1 and 2 of GL and your team gets unnecessarily necrotic trapped….

I’ve still got the golem runes from the CoE armor set on my ranger. I originally intended replacing them but the golem is fun and I just enjoy seeing it turn it up. If I was taking the ranger into fractal 30+ I’d take the runes out but I’m not, and all other group content will be ok whatever runes I use.

For the original poster, that’s a sad tale but your group was probably poor and doomed to fail anyway. Bad players always find ways to make things difficult.

Dub.1273:

Anyway, i feel sorry for you. The best advice i can give you: don’t do fractals. And if you do, don’t pug fractals. People always start leaving my groups when i tell them mesmer GS/Guardian scepter sucks in dredge where you need cleave damage.

Well, me being a bit of a perfectionist, I want ascendeds for my various characters, so I have been working towards that end. With that said, skipping fractals isn’t an option for me.
But I do need to honestly find a decent group of people to do these runs with, you’re right.

Your story sounds pretty odd, though I’ve never really had the job of solo carrying an entire party before.

Ather.5091:

You could have summoned the golems by a bug. if your armor was all Exotic CoE armor (regardless of the runes currently applied) at one point, your clones will all have the summon golem ability. This is a bug and I see it happen all the time. Actually it can be quite funny on Subject Alpha when 3 Mark I golems spawn and everyone goes “What the Chicken!?” when 3 golems knock alpha all over the place. Unfortunately it can also be pretty bad when a golem survives phase 1 and 2 of GL and your team gets unnecessarily necrotic trapped….

I’ve never heard of this bug until now.
Also, it still couldn’t have been me because I don’t have any CoE armor at all. My armor is Full Zerker/Ruby Orb transmuted with Orrian/Nightmare.

Stooperdale.3560:

I’ve still got the golem runes from the CoE armor set on my ranger. I originally intended replacing them but the golem is fun and I just enjoy seeing it turn it up. If I was taking the ranger into fractal 30+ I’d take the runes out but I’m not, and all other group content will be ok whatever runes I use.

For the original poster, that’s a sad tale but your group was probably poor and doomed to fail anyway. Bad players always find ways to make things difficult.

They were honestly making life difficult in the run anyways when I think about how annoying they were leaving the harpies open, and how they kept gaffing the first fractal. I’ll just remember this so that I can kick any of their guild bretheren the minute I see them indiscriminately if I absolutely have to pug.

It’s so frustrating. Hopefully I find a decent dungeoning guild to accompany soon.

cranked.3812:

Obviously, I was kitten ed so I immediately whispered the party leader and wasn’t nice about it. Told me he kicked me because of the Maw thing and because, LMFAO he said I was downed most of the time. Spent about a good hour pretty kitten close to a ragequit.

My absolute sympathies goes out to you. I honestly had less than kind words for the person whom I whispered concerning my kick either after they refused to oblige as well, much like your situation. When this happened, I did consider rage quitting. After a night of rest, I think I’ll just choose my pugs more carefully instead of staying in fractals that are made difficult to begin with. I have a tendency to continue batting away at dungeons, even if they seem to be not doing too well.

If I do ever see any of these individuals again, I will probably extract much pleasure from insta-kicking them for being absolute morons.

Sabelle.2159:

Your story sounds pretty odd, though I’ve never really had the job of solo carrying an entire party before.

Oh, you will experience that earlier or later…
Better hope later

Bro, you don’t run fractals when you’re in a bad mood.

Stinson.5972:

Bro, you don’t run fractals when you’re in a bad mood.

Or a good one, because then it will put you in a bad mood -.-

Oh man, this definitely wins the prize for the biggest fail in a run. But yeah… do you care about your sanity? Don’t pug fractals. Works for me. AT LEAST 2+ people you know.
I’ll have a beer now and think of how much I’d love to have a dungeon guild, and that isn’t full of kittens.

deSade.9437:

and that isn’t full of kittens.

Lawl, I’m sure I’d enjoy a guild full of kitties.

It’s not really a ‘major’ fail but by god does it happen a lot. AC when trying to stack the Spider Queen and someone mucks up causing her to drop poison, I hightail it outta there and purge that ungodly poison as soon as I’m clear, usually healing straight after. Only to turn around and find the rest of my team defeated. Are you guys serious? Did the enormous red rings, green clouds and the insane amount of damage you started taking not ring any bells!?. This has happened on at least 5 different occasions….
I only hope that it’s attacking someone on the brink if death so I can run past her and (not get incinerated by torches) leg it back to where the first burrow usually spawns.

Dolan.3071:

It’s not really a ‘major’ fail but by god does it happen a lot. AC when trying to stack the Spider Queen and someone mucks up causing her to drop poison, I hightail it outta there and purge that ungodly poison as soon as I’m clear, usually healing straight after. Only to turn around and find the rest of my team defeated. Are you guys serious? Did the enormous red rings, green clouds and the insane amount of damage you started taking not ring any bells!?. This has happened on at least 5 different occasions….
I only hope that it’s attacking someone on the brink if death so I can run past her and (not get incinerated by torches) leg it back to where the first burrow usually spawns.

I always melee that spider with my guardian and pretty much always if its a pug they go like (da)kitten you doing, than they all die and eventually shut their traps as i solo her >;3

^ I haven’t been able to melee solo her to any effectiveness over ranged. You’ve got that melee strike that hurts quite a lot, then I gotta put a huge gap between me and her to avoid the web, then avoiding the poison fields which can stuff up melee if she decides to sit in it. So I think ranged DPS is probably better, just kiting her in circles until she’s dead.

I ran for Arah P3 the other day.

I don’t remember it much now, as I tried to shove it away from my brain, but I do remember the time when they kicked me.

Everything went as usual. We pulled, we killed, and we stealthed our way to the mage crusher. There were problems, so we didn’t have a smooth experience but managed to get by

You know the part where people exploit it so it can’t attack? Someone (NOT me, coz I was already out of combat waiting on the stone ramp) aggroed the champion spider and can’t get out of combat.

Someone asked “maybe we should kill the spider?” and I answered “too much time”. As in, “it’s just a waste of time”. It’s a Dwaynakitten ed Champion, how long do you think it’d take to kill the kitten thing?

So, another ele (the guy that aggroed the spider) started to attack mage crusher
I decided to follow suit. As the stupid guy falls down bleeding, I casted Healing Rain, and crusher casted his magic, causing red circle on the floor, so I dodge rolled. I happen to dodge to my left, away from the rest (who were on my right).

Suddenly, I saw the “requests a kick, do you second?” dialog, but strangely without the usual green tick and red circle. I was thinking that they’re finally going to kick this useless man, but nope, I got kicked.

I, who absolutely didn’t do anything wrong, got kicked because a certain kitten couldn’t get away from a Champion Spider. I quickly whispered “what did I do wrong?”, but no answer

Lost about half an hour or more.

Ended up joining a party with (presumably) a few inexperienced members. Despite having problems at corrosive light and 2 stacks of buff with lupicus (at one point, I had to dodge for my life as others bandage themselves during downed state), we actually finished the dungeon.

It shows how ridiculous people are. Hell, I’d be more than willing to stay with a few inexperienced who sticks till the end and are willing to learn instead of a bunch of caps who chose a spider aggroer than an innocent member

Played AR and we had a mesmer while we were at the final boss i got very angry on that mesmer for he was the worst mesmer ever. throwing null fields only on himself while not having bleed while the rest is bleeding out.

he didn’t even use his TW during the fight, but he used it when we were running around voor the barrage attack. we completed it but it took way longer then it needed to be. not to mention he went down and died alot so rezzing was also needed.

In the end he explained he used the warp for a combo for ‘speed’ we had 2 guardians already giving speeds plus a warrior who had banner. in the end he even blamed me for the fails and wanted to kick me off ( didn’t happen of course ).

in the end he wanted to keep talking and complaining and i said “its done, dungeon is over stop complaining” obviously he whispered me telling me to L2p and logged of before i could reply. big mouth from somebody with a 1500 achievement score.

i mailed him it was over and stop complaining and i blocked him so i won’t have trouble from him again.

seriously some people…….

We had a nightmare AC path 2 run. We got to the final boss, we are trying to charge up the traps and every so often a Golem pops out and Leroys the boss.

So we ask who is running Golemancer. Turns out it’s a warrior. unfortunately even though he keeps going down to the AoEs and has full Golemancer’s which he won’t remove a single piece of, we can’t kick him as a new patch has just come out and therefore there is no way to replace him.