Guild Wars 2

Well, yesterday I did AC P2 for the first time in about a year…

When we end up in the room where there are spike traps that your team has to trigger and there will be a massive invasion by gravelers…

I remember a year ago I was holding all the Gravelers including the Breeder by the spikes and my team triggers the traps over and over and finally they gravelers where dead. This time I noticed that the Breeder wasn’t affected by the traps and I couldn’t hold of all gravelers long enough to kill her. Luckely two members our group knew that there was a place where we could stack (Ohh I so hate stacking like this) so we did that and we compelated it easy as pie.

Well thats the story, now to the question:
Has this Breeder always been immune to the traps or have they changed enything with that encounter? If they have, why do Anet encourage this stupid stacking method? I mean having one player tank and the rest using the traps (The true mechanic of the room) and win… Instead of everyone stack in the wall and one triggers one trap … meh..
And if they havent changed it, what could I have done wrong?

They have changed the champion graveling breeder to be immune to the spike traps and players have to kill it themselves.

You can still have 4 on traps, one running around to lure the lizards in traps, then kill champ but most people want to stack on wall cos it’s faster IF the party can handle the bleeds/cc and has enough cleave.

Been in couple of runs where people insisted on stacking on wall despite having pretty bad party composition and almost no cleave. Then they rage when everyone dies. Maybe unlucky but every single time the party got wiped at the trap part, Detha bugged out at boss traps and didn’t start the event.

I don’t think it was a stupid change, before 4 could just afk at traps and win easily. You can still do that or you can stack, which to me isn’t as easy as 4 on traps if you get a kitten party. Would be awesome if people were able to tell if they can stack or not, not just follow the same thing cos that’s all they’ve done so far.

serenke.4806:

They have changed the champion graveling breeder to be immune to the spike traps and players have to kill it themselves.

That was a stupid move by Anet in my opinion since… Well now the stacking is more viable and well as I said do they build the game to make people stack in corners? If so that is silly… It is not fun to play like that.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

You can still have 4 on traps, one running around to lure the lizards in traps, then kill champ but most people want to stack on wall cos it’s faster IF the party can handle the bleeds/cc and has enough cleave.

Been in couple of runs where people insisted on stacking on wall despite having pretty bad party composition and almost no cleave. Then they rage when everyone dies. Maybe unlucky but every single time the party got wiped at the trap part, Detha bugged out at boss traps and didn’t start the event.

I don’t think it was a stupid change, before 4 could just afk at traps and win easily. You can still do that or you can stack, which to me isn’t as easy as 4 on traps if you get a kitten party. Would be awesome if people were able to tell if they can stack or not, not just follow the same thing cos that’s all they’ve done so far.

Thank you for the tip, I will try it again next time but last time I tried it seemed like the Graveling just kept comming even if we filled up the meeter for killed gravelings. As soon as I tried to focus on champion I lost “aggro” on the other gravelings and they killed the NPC. I didn’t have any problems surviving. Well I am gonna try becouse I realy Loathe stacking.

(Sorry for late response)

Its a pretty bad stack that the pugs use bc they go right up against the wall out of the traps range which ends up letting a fair amount of gravelings live. Honestly the whole room is pretty lame doing it the pug way with traps, so for me it doesnt really change anything having 1 person tank or having 4 people stack. Same boringness.

Ofc we all know the real way to do it, and that is actually way more fun to do. But try getting pugs to do it….

So far all pugs stacking have end up me soloing the champion with 50-75% health left.

You leave traps and hide to a dark spot right from graveling spawn point and Detha will kill them herself if you keep out of aggro. The champion must be pulled and killed by yourselves.

Wethospu.6437:

So far all pugs stacking have end up me soloing the champion with 50-75% health left.

Hehe how sad
Well in my case we did fail first try as I let my partmembers decide what to do, second time I told them that this is how I did one year ago and we tried my old tactic from long ago and failed becouse Champion is immune to traps Third time we did the stacking again and me sulking over bad decision from Anet and we made it nice and easy wich made me even more annoyed with Anets decision :P

tramwajarz.2369:

You leave traps and hide to a dark spot right from graveling spawn point and Detha will kill them herself if you keep out of aggro. The champion must be pulled and killed by yourselves.

oh my… Thats even worse than stacking… XD

Thank you all for the answeres!

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Thank you for the tip, I will try it again next time but last time I tried it seemed like the Graveling just kept comming even if we filled up the meeter for killed gravelings. As soon as I tried to focus on champion I lost “aggro” on the other gravelings and they killed the NPC. I didn’t have any problems surviving. Well I am gonna try becouse I realy Loathe stacking.

(Sorry for late response)

If you want to do that event the old way, ask ele (there is usually at least 1 ele in AC runs) to stay on one of the front traps and drop ice bow for you when champ spawns, use ice bow 5 then 4 to kill the champ, best if the ele helps you kill it. The small lizards will keep spawning and some will attack npc so the champ should die fast.