Guild Wars 2

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/raid-rewards-in-guildwars2/

Looks like all the dungeon gold went to raids. 4g per boss kill!

In case anyone missed it, raids come next Tuesday:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/enter-spirit-vale-on-november-17/

I’m curious about the new mastery. Is it tacked onto an existing mastery line or a completely new one?

Other notes:

1. Raid currency to buy boss rewards if you are unlucky with drops (even get some if you fail to kill the boss, limited to weekly amount)

2. High chance for ascended armor/weapon drop

3. Gift of craftsmanship, unlocked by crafting things for vendors in the jungle, used for legendary armor.

I’m fairly certain that it’s account bound.

3 raid wings, so at least 9 bosses per week.
the most recent 3 will have that unique buff for doubles rewards…

makes 24g minimum per week, once all 3 initial wings are released…

I used to make 40g per day from dungeons.
So hopefully not everything in there is acc-bound…
Or future wings have more bosses…

This is per week, but this would still be more gold per day than dungeons right now 1:1. This is also probably where all the ascended equipment drops went that everyone has been complaining about (rightly so).

Arantheal.7396:

3 raid wings, so at least 9 bosses per week.
the most recent 3 will have that unique buff for doubles rewards…

makes 24g minimum per week, once all 3 initial wings are released…

I used to make 40g per day from dungeons.
So hopefully not everything in there is acc-bound…
Or future wings have more bosses…

I’m pretty sure that’s per final boss, so 12 gold/week from the first three wings.

Edit: Also 4 gold is only for the most current boss. Otherwise it’s only 2 gold. So we’re looking at 8 gold a week from the weekly chests.

Ranatoa.4869:

Arantheal.7396:

3 raid wings, so at least 9 bosses per week.
the most recent 3 will have that unique buff for doubles rewards…

makes 24g minimum per week, once all 3 initial wings are released…

I used to make 40g per day from dungeons.
So hopefully not everything in there is acc-bound…
Or future wings have more bosses…

I’m pretty sure that’s per final boss, so 12 gold/week from the first three wings.

Edit: Also 4 gold is only for the most current boss. Otherwise it’s only 2 gold. So we’re looking at 8 gold a week from the weekly chests.

read the article again, each boss grants a chest + gold individually.

Arantheal.7396:

read the article again, each boss grants a chest + gold individually.

So it does, that’s at least better than I was understanding, 8 gold a week would be pretty sad…

Timegate here, weekly cap there… Am I the only one that feels this is what we call artificial longevity?

Rewards sound meh, but still looking forward for doing some 10 man coordinated runs for the sake of having fun.

Agyaggalamb.4796:

Timegate here, weekly cap there… Am I the only one that feels this is what we call artificial longevity?

Welcome to raiding

Agyaggalamb.4796:

Timegate here, weekly cap there… Am I the only one that feels this is what we call artificial longevity?

Rewards sound meh, but still looking forward for doing some 10 man coordinated runs for the sake of having fun.

Well, earning the currency is not limited in time. I rather think that this weekly chest is there to “force” or highly pushes all the PVE players to participate.

Biggest gate is the LEY LINE MASTERY required to reach the NPC with your leftovers after you have been unlucky with the rng.

Kinda wish I’d exploited cof p1 and spiders now..although I don’t have enough mastery points anyway so I’d have been gated again.

Grind grind cap cap gate gate, welcome to ’don’t play as you want, vanilla MMO’.

Will be interesting after the rush dies down to see how many people do them once a week for the special chest then don’t bother for the rest of the week.

I’ll start counting the months until I get an ascended weapon or armor chest from anywhere other than raids (although to be honest, I don’t remember when I got the only other one…)…

This announcement could have been ’ Anet confirms raids gated behind huge exp gate, says ‘play our way whether you like it or not’ and confirms it’s to sway metrics to maximise ‘players’ numbers in HoT areas.

Hopefully drops are account bound not toon bound…especially for legendary armor collection. I wonder how many sets you can make, or whether we’re not allowed alts in this vision?

Notsoperky.2348:

Biggest gate is the LEY LINE MASTERY required to reach the NPC with your leftovers after you have been unlucky with the rng.

Kinda wish I’d exploited cof p1 and spiders now..although I don’t have enough mastery points anyway so I’d have been gated again.

Grind grind cap cap gate gate, welcome to ’don’t play as you want, vanilla MMO’.

Will be interesting after the rush dies down to see how many people do them once a week for the special chest then don’t bother for the rest of the week.

I’ll start counting the months until I get an ascended weapon or armor chest from anywhere other than raids (although to be honest, I don’t remember when I got the only other one…)…

This announcement could have been ’ Anet confirms raids gated behind huge exp gate, says ‘play our way whether you like it or not’ and confirms it’s to sway metrics to maximise ‘players’ numbers in HoT areas.

Hopefully drops are account bound not toon bound…especially for legendary armor collection. I wonder how many sets you can make, or whether we’re not allowed alts in this vision?

You only need the raid mastery to get to the vendor. You can still do the raid and get all the rewards. Also the vendor is if you are unlucky with drops and want to purchase ONE or two things. I.E expect to take at least 2 months to gain enough currency for a single item from the vendor. You will have long unlocked it before you have enough currency to spend.

Also raids are HoT, not tyria so CoF will do nothing for you. They are also not exploits, you can still earn xp that way if you want. But as you stated yourself, xp is easy to get, people are just silly about grinding it out instantly. the mastery points are the bigger investment.

I’m not exactly sure why you think they wouldn’t focus on HoT content? You just paid $50 for the expansion… now you are complaining that they are giving you too much stuff to do in the expansion areas?

MiniEquine.6014:

This is per week, but this would still be more gold per day than dungeons right now 1:1. This is also probably where all the ascended equipment drops went that everyone has been complaining about (rightly so).

Pretty ****ty of Anet to take ascended drops out of Fractals and move them to raids… Along with the liquid gold they’ve murdered fractals.

TheFantasticGman.9451:

MiniEquine.6014:

This is per week, but this would still be more gold per day than dungeons right now 1:1. This is also probably where all the ascended equipment drops went that everyone has been complaining about (rightly so).

Pretty ****ty of Anet to take ascended drops out of Fractals and move them to raids… Along with the liquid gold they’ve murdered fractals.

I thought they said that the ascended not coming from fractals was a bug.

Source? Cause I highly doubt it. Hat just reeks of PR lip service to try to calm people.

yea.. .CoD BO3 is out, Fallout 4 released, StarWars Battlefront commin out in 4 days, plus a host of new tv series all this week… gw2 might take a bit of a hit…

raid golds per week not equal dungeon golds per day

Ranatoa.4869:

Arantheal.7396:

3 raid wings, so at least 9 bosses per week.
the most recent 3 will have that unique buff for doubles rewards…

makes 24g minimum per week, once all 3 initial wings are released…

I used to make 40g per day from dungeons.
So hopefully not everything in there is acc-bound…
Or future wings have more bosses…

I’m pretty sure that’s per final boss, so 12 gold/week from the first three wings.

Edit: Also 4 gold is only for the most current boss. Otherwise it’s only 2 gold. So we’re looking at 8 gold a week from the weekly chests.

That is, if you actually can clear the bosses weekly and, since not many people managed to do so in the betas, as far as I know, that may not be the case.

Maybe it will take a while to get the first kill, and then another while to make kills consistent aka farmable.

Ayrilana.1396:

TheFantasticGman.9451:

MiniEquine.6014:

This is per week, but this would still be more gold per day than dungeons right now 1:1. This is also probably where all the ascended equipment drops went that everyone has been complaining about (rightly so).

Pretty ****ty of Anet to take ascended drops out of Fractals and move them to raids… Along with the liquid gold they’ve murdered fractals.

I thought they said that the ascended not coming from fractals was a bug.

They said that? That’s news to me – so far they have ignored every thread on the matter.

are raids guild exclusive? Will the LFG option be able to be used here?

Astralporing.1957:

Ayrilana.1396:

TheFantasticGman.9451:

MiniEquine.6014:

This is per week, but this would still be more gold per day than dungeons right now 1:1. This is also probably where all the ascended equipment drops went that everyone has been complaining about (rightly so).

Pretty ****ty of Anet to take ascended drops out of Fractals and move them to raids… Along with the liquid gold they’ve murdered fractals.

I thought they said that the ascended not coming from fractals was a bug.

They said that? That’s news to me – so far they have ignored every thread on the matter.

It may have been John Smith’s “I’ll look into it” and how some people were taking it to be. I guess we’ll see what they do.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Other notes:

1. Raid currency to buy boss rewards if you are unlucky with drops (even get some if you fail to kill the boss, limited to weekly amount)

Bravo, Anet. For real, that is one of the few ways to make raids tolerable for the more casual gamers who lacks time, will or ressorces to min max every number of his toons for days.

And on a different positive note, it totally kills any bragging rights for entitled achievement thinking over time.
Player A : “So, yes, this is my raid content item X. I got it when I defeated Creature of Doom Y!”
Player B : " Wow, looks great. Hey, player C, have you fought the same mob, even if you are only here for an hour a day? You have the same item after all."
Player C : " Uhm, no. I actually can only play an hour and can´t train for raids regularly, so I collected this currency while trying as good as I could and bang, there I got it over time."
Player B: “…”

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Other notes:
2. High chance for ascended armor/weapon drop

we will see what this amounts to because this says fractal dailies still drop ascended chests whereas this# says "ok yes they do, but not at any meaningful level.

Valky.2574:

Gonna be to busy with fallout 4 / space engineers-planets update this week
and on Nov 17 is the same day Episode 6 of game of thrones comes out ..
look’s like i might forget gw2 again .. mastery grind helps me forget faster

Have you tried not grinding mastery and just playing the kittening game?

Yunielesca.2850:

Agyaggalamb.4796:

Timegate here, weekly cap there… Am I the only one that feels this is what we call artificial longevity?

Rewards sound meh, but still looking forward for doing some 10 man coordinated runs for the sake of having fun.

Well, earning the currency is not limited in time. I rather think that this weekly chest is there to “force” or highly pushes all the PVE players to participate.

It was specifically said that there is a weekly cap on magnemite. New wings’ end boss chests will give 4 gold/boss, but that’s only temporary and we have no clue if the buff will be there for a day or a week. (I would not hold my breath for any longer than that, we cannot earn too much gold after all…)

There will be at least 3 wings that’s 9 boss and that equals 18 gold/week. I can make more than that with a bit of luck per day, but 10 gold a day is still not unrealistic with semi-casual playstyle. If this direction continues I may consider quitting as well, as there are quite a few things in real life I cannot achieve/get, and I would not like this game to start simulating the same experience…

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Other notes:

1. Raid currency to buy boss rewards if you are unlucky with drops (even get some if you fail to kill the boss, limited to weekly amount)

2. High chance for ascended armor/weapon drop

15% is not a high chance and for raids its not sufficient.

morrolan.9608:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Other notes:

1. Raid currency to buy boss rewards if you are unlucky with drops (even get some if you fail to kill the boss, limited to weekly amount)

2. High chance for ascended armor/weapon drop

15% is not a high chance and for raids its not sufficient.

15% is about one drop every 6 weeks (if there’s only one boss) which means about 9 months for a full precursor armor set if you don’t get duplicate pieces, but if you do it’s an even longer time.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

morrolan.9608:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Other notes:

1. Raid currency to buy boss rewards if you are unlucky with drops (even get some if you fail to kill the boss, limited to weekly amount)

2. High chance for ascended armor/weapon drop

15% is not a high chance and for raids its not sufficient.

15% is about one drop every 6 weeks (if there’s only one boss) which means about 9 months for a full precursor armor set if you don’t get duplicate pieces, but if you do it’s an even longer time.

Well there are 3 bosses per wing, plus events which I think they said also drop loot. Plus there will be at least 3 wings, for a total of 9 bosses. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

If you’re going into raids looking for it to be your primary gold farm you should just get rid of that thought now before you set yourself up for disappointment. The reasons to raid are…

1. Fun/challenge
2. Prestige unique items
3. progression
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.
.
9378. Gold farm

Seriously, if you cry about the raw gold rewards go farm silverwastes.

NikeEU.7690:

If you’re going into raids looking for it to be your primary gold farm you should just get rid of that thought now before you set yourself up for disappointment. The reasons to raid are…

1. Fun/challenge
2. Prestige unique items
3. progression
.
.
.
9378. Gold farm

Seriously, if you cry about the raw gold rewards go farm silverwastes.

That’s horribly depressing. If you actually need gold for some reason you have to choose.

Do I:

1.) Actually play enjoyable content but kitten rewards.

Or

2.) Or make my eyes bleed farming mind numbing crap pressing staff 1 in an event train.

This game has really taken a turn for the best

I’d like to have fun and earn decent gold while I do it. I was hoping that the updates to Fractals and Raids would allow that. For now, it doesn’t really seem like it?

I’ll pick fun over rewards 95% of the time, so if raids are fun, I’ll still happily do them. Would have been nice to get a bit more gold from them, though.

timmyf.1490:

I’d like to have fun and earn decent gold while I do it. I was hoping that the updates to Fractals and Raids would allow that. For now, it doesn’t really seem like it?

I’ll pick fun over rewards 95% of the time, so if raids are fun, I’ll still happily do them. Would have been nice to get a bit more gold from them, though.

Well luckily Anet has found a solution for people like us! For a small fee, you can buy gems and turn them into gold!!!!!

You don’t have to bother with dungeons and fractals since they nerfed them to kitten. Now all you have to do is pull out that plastic and get your gems now!

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

timmyf.1490:

I’d like to have fun and earn decent gold while I do it. I was hoping that the updates to Fractals and Raids would allow that. For now, it doesn’t really seem like it?

I’ll pick fun over rewards 95% of the time, so if raids are fun, I’ll still happily do them. Would have been nice to get a bit more gold from them, though.

Well luckily Anet has found a solution for people like us! For a small fee, you can buy gems and turn them into gold!!!!!

You don’t have to bother with dungeons and fractals since they nerfed them to kitten. Now all you have to do is pull out that plastic and get your gems now!

I’m not really this cynical. I think their updates to the rewards systems are to encourage players to directly gather the items they’d like rather than earn gold or mats at the fastest available rate and trade what they don’t need.

For example, if I need charged lodestones, the old way might have been run dungeons a bunch and buy them on the TP from people who got them as drops but need gold instead. The “new way” they want us to play would be to figure out which map has charged cores/lodestones as a map reward, go there, and do events and stuff.

I think it’s a concerted effort to get players back into all the open world maps. You can make your own call about whether this is good or bad for you/the game, but that’s what I think is happening. Not a push for more money for gems.

SkyShroud.2865:

raid golds per week not equal dungeon golds per day

Yep, just as I said in another thread – the ONLY way this would be “fair” would have been if it was 4px3g=12gx7d=84g

4 paths * 3 gold = 12 gold * 7 days = 84 gold for a week.

So yea, this is SUCH a let down. The ONLY way “raid” would have been “worth it” was if it was 84 gold for a week, or 12 gold per day.

Sad too, I WAS looking forward to them. Now I likely wont even waste my time!