Just spent 5 hours on this thing. We all respec’d full dps and still couldn’t do a kittening thing. 98% of the time either: 1) the sparks bug and extra one spawns or one of the sparks takes up two slots, leaving one floating around the shrine guaranteeing simin will full heal; or 2) the sparks path terribly (due to the fact that they are ranged) and one will float around, guaranteeing that simin will full heal.
Maybe give us a timer to get the sparks back on shrine BEFORE simin starts healing? or maybe nerf the heal rate? This kitten is rediculous.
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I am just pissed that this path is still available. We just wasted 3 hours in this dungeon, half that time on this boss.
I would understand it if we were not able to kill the boss if we were undergeared (which we were not) or simply to stupid, but right now the sparks are just bugged.
Also we got 1 player in our party that got 95% of the petrifications, he was basically unable to play even though we used the sparks constantly.
I am sorry, but this has just been a great dissapointment for both me and the others in my party.
Try bringing a venom share thief – may take a few tries but you can stun lock her when she’s meant to heal and dps through. Basilisk Venom is probably the most OP PvE move in the game. It goes THROUGH defiance and very few things are immune to it – the only mob so far I have found is the Hunter risen trash (I have no idea why a normal trash mob is immune while legendary mobs aren;t but they are).
Suggested thief build is 30/0/30/10/0 or can put last 10 into 5th line. All but one group up on simir (obviously need one on tear duty) and thief needs to venom share but should time his basilisk venom. Hopefully this should allow you to kill her easily.
Also, venom share thieves are great for trash and dungeons generally. I use to roll mobility and dps specs, then changed to condi damage. Now I only run venom share if I do dungeons as a Thief ;p.
People are still crying about this…… Learn the proper way to kite the orbs and till the graphic bug is fixed for the spark prisons learn to keep track of the ones they go into. And bring some real dps.
People are still crying about this…… Learn the proper way to kite the orbs and till the graphic bug is fixed for the spark prisons learn to keep track of the ones they go into. And bring some real dps.
How about no?
How about we don’t overcompensate for bugs and instead get those bugs fixed?
Just because you got lucky and beat it doesn’t mean it isn’t broken, and isn’t worth bringing up.
Attitudes like yours are what quickly bring MMOs into mediocrity. You think you’re a special snowflake because you brute forced a glitchy boss? Well, fine. Bask in your glory and kindly don’t inflict your personality on us.
Just because it is possible, does not mean the boss isnt totally bugged.
Also a fight that requires you to bring a thief or any other specific class in order to become beatable is in my opinion broken.
Just because it is possible, does not mean the boss isnt totally bugged.
Also a fight that requires you to bring a thief or any other specific class in order to become beatable is in my opinion broken.
Actually thief isn;t essential, it just makes things easier. That goes for almost all dungeons, the few seconds (up to 9s if accurately done – more realistically 4-5s) of bosses/ mobs being stunned is invaluable. I main a guardian (started out as thief) and the luxury of having no damage for a few seconds is immense. The fact basilisk goes through defiance means champion mobs and above can be cc’d to allow valuable time for resses, dps spikes and time to recover hp/ wait for cd.
Thieves aren;t essential for this fight, I have beaten her on warrior and guardian, but running a venom share thief (a good one) in dungeons, particularly ones with harder trash and bosses e.g. Arah, CoE then you really notice how useful they are. Simir simply takes the fight to the extreme as its one of the few bosses where you all stack up on her meaning venom share hits everyone. This way the boss has constant poison (heals 33% less) and stunned for 5s+ at a time.
If you play a thief, try venom share in a dungeon, it helps your team so much you honestly won;t wanna try any other role as a thief because you are so useful and speed up runs immensely.
People are still crying about this…… Learn the proper way to kite the orbs and till the graphic bug is fixed for the spark prisons learn to keep track of the ones they go into. And bring some real dps.
How about no?
How about we don’t overcompensate for bugs and instead get those bugs fixed?
Just because you got lucky and beat it doesn’t mean it isn’t broken, and isn’t worth bringing up.
Attitudes like yours are what quickly bring MMOs into mediocrity. You think you’re a special snowflake because you brute forced a glitchy boss? Well, fine. Bask in your glory and kindly don’t inflict your personality on us.
I would counter you with “People who always complain and ask for nerfs just so their ego doesnt take a hit when they cant do something” make games mediocre. Not the guy who straps on his boots and gets stuff done.
And your brute force comment? Sinin is a DPS check. Her whole mechanic is a brute force mechanic.
Hows that for predictable? Yea like I have said many many times, the problem is YOU special snowflake, not the game.
People are still crying about this…… Learn the proper way to kite the orbs and till the graphic bug is fixed for the spark prisons learn to keep track of the ones they go into. And bring some real dps.
How about no?
How about we don’t overcompensate for bugs and instead get those bugs fixed?
Just because you got lucky and beat it doesn’t mean it isn’t broken, and isn’t worth bringing up.
Attitudes like yours are what quickly bring MMOs into mediocrity. You think you’re a special snowflake because you brute forced a glitchy boss? Well, fine. Bask in your glory and kindly don’t inflict your personality on us.
I would counter you with “People who always complain and ask for nerfs just so their ego doesnt take a hit when they cant do something” make games mediocre. Not the guy who straps on his boots and gets stuff done.
And your brute force comment? Sinin is a DPS check. Her whole mechanic is a brute force mechanic.
Hows that for predictable? Yea like I have said many many times, the problem is YOU special snowflake, not the game.
I don’t want a nerf. I want a fix. To a broken fight.
Just because you got lucky and passed the fight doesn’t mean it’s working as intended, your arrogance is appalling.
Learn the difference before speaking to me again. Until then, take your ego issues and go away.
No fix necessary. It isn’t broken. Your not doing it right. And I have passed the fight over 20 times now. Guess that was luck too. Guess it was luck to get my dungeon master title the second week of release. yea all of that was luck.
No fix necessary. It isn’t broken. Your not doing it right.
It is broken.
I will say again, stop lying to pad your own ego. It’s sickening.
The developers will never fix what’s wrong with this game with people like you misleading them.
I expect the inevitable retort implying I’m not good enough and blah blah blah. Yes I’m not good enough to exploit a broken fight like you. Oh no.
And please, take your kitten rattling somewhere else. I don’t care what you’ve done. I care about reporting a broken mechanic and making sure it ges fixed. You are nobody to me, and the fact that you feel the need to flaunt your titles in a videogame assures that you are nobody I want to know.
Edit: You know the attitude of some people here astounds me.
I know the fight. I know what to do, when to do it and how to survivve it. But because my party doesn’t class-stack and use cookie cutter builds, because we didn’t know to EXPLOIT and ATTACK THIN AIR in order to CHEAT A WIN over the broken mechanic, we’re somehow noobs and don’t deserve to win.
This is unbelievable. I can only take comfort in that these people don’t represent the majority of the playerbase, and will hopefully soon get bored and move onto the next shiny they can exploit and crow about and leave the rest of us alone.
Hmm exploit a fight. Well I will give you our strat.
We pull her to the back of the cave away from the spark spawn location. We beat her down to 50%, positioning ourselves around her and getting her stability stack to 0. Once she gets the buff we stun or daze her and our mesmer drops his haste and runs off and gathers every spark and runs counter clockwise. Our thief or engineer is poisoning her while we beat on her even tho she is invis. Shocker right? you can hit things that are invised or stealthed. We keep her health below 75% till the mesmer gets the orbs in. Never once had a problem getting orbs in this way in over 20 runs.
Umm exploit and attack her in thin air? She is there. You are able to hit anything while invised and stealthed in every part of this game. in fact, swinging at thin air in PvP is the best counter to most thieves.
The problem is, you didn’t have a good strat. I guess not being able to watch a video like in WoW has kittened ya. Oh wait, yea there’s videos on how to do this boss. So the ONLY logical explanation is that you failed because you failed. Not that the boss is broken.
Yeah, we didn’t have a cheating strat. Woe is us.
Yes, there are strategies to win. It’s possible. THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE FIGHT IS BROKEN, GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD.
You are utterly deluding yourself if you think attacking air for several minutes was an intended mechanic.
Its not a cheating strat. You just seem to think it is. And no we dont attack air for several minutes. read the strat again. It takes our mesmer no more than 10 seconds to get the sparks in.
Every part of this game it is allowed to attack a stealthed person or NPC. In your opinion, you shouldn’t be allowed to hit Skelks when they stealth attack you right? Your not allowed to hit any cat NPC when they stealth / KB combo you right? Your not allowed to hit thieves in PvP while they are stealthed right?
If you are allowed to do any of the above, why do you consider hitting sinin while in stealth an exploit?
Again and really i never get tired of saying this. its you, not the game.
Hey guess what? Skelk stealth lasts for a few seconds. It’s not permanent until a mechanic is passed.
It’s an exploit. You are exploiting. Now, I have no objection to this since exploiting to overcome a bugged fight is in my opinion acceptable.
The fact that you have to LIE about it is what makes me look down on you.
I’ll never get tired of saying this: It’s not me. It’s the game, and your denial will not change this.
And since this has become a useless roundabout with you attempting to pad your own ego, consider yourself blocked. I have no need to interact with the likes of you.
Ah Ruien. You are just about the only person I wouldn’t be surprised to see arguing that the Arah doors being bugged shut is a l2p issue.
Just because there are ways to circumvent a bug, doesn’t mean it’s not bugged in the first place. The truth of the matter is that the circles which are supposed to show what circle a spark is supposed to go in is bugged, and that the sparks are using a very poor aggro mechanic.
I’m totally happy for your dungeon master title, as we all know the dungeons in this game are extremely challenging and certainly not something your every-day player would be able to complete, but in a discussion about game bugs I don’t see how it is relevant.
Let me ask you a question. Why does Sinin get a buff 4 seconds before she goes invis? What does the buff do. Why would the devs put it on her? if you can answer those questions, you will know that attacking Sinin while invis is NOT AN EXPLOIT.
Oh and btw if you put 0 orbs in the slots, she will appear again 45 seconds after going invis. its a longer duration than the skelks but the mechanics are the same.
And block me all you want. I have tried to help you and all I have received is name calling back from you. It doesn’t bother me a bit.
I’ll reply to this before leaving you to your own devices as it is useless attempting to communicate with you.
Why does she get a buff? So you know that she’s about to invis and that it’s time to send someone after the sparks! Biggest duh in history? Yes. All together now. DUH.
Ahh wrong again but your right this is pointless. You aren’t the kind of person to have a discussion with. It angers you and you lash out. Go ahead and keep asking for those nerfs. maybe the devs will listen to you.
I have to wonder tho if you will be in the thread about the new dungeon being released. Devs have said it will be the hardest dungeon in game. I bet Ill see your name there complaining.
And he keeps calling a request for a fix a nerf. I am vaguely amused.
Oh I’m sure the new dungeon will have all sorts of bugs, and this guy will sit here and call it a challenge. Yeah I bet he thinks the Arah gate bug is a challenge too.
Now if only the ignore feature here actually worked… maybe that’s a challenge as well!
Please just stop the insults.
It is a fact that the encounter is not working as it should. Give yourself a clap on the back if you can still take the boss down even if you have to use specific professions and builds to have a chance. It is okay that you are telling people that the encounter can be taken down but this does not change the FACT that it is broken.
I would also say that the boss should not be nerfed, rather it should be buffed, but at the same time the bugs have to be fixed.
Here is the thing, if a group can clear Giganticus to get to Simin without any problems, then spends hours and hours failing at Simin, you know something is wrong with the fight, and its not the players.
GW2 is a game where any group composition can clear all content, Simin is an exception which goes against Anet’s philosopy
My point is, it isnt broken. You just think it is because you assume your supposed to get the sparks in before she regens her health past the 75% mark.
Has a dev ever confirmed anywhere that this is the only way to beat this boss? lots of classes have poison and poison fields. We have done it with a ranger, necro, engineer and a thief at one point or another and no not all at the same time.
I eluded to the white buff earlier. Might want to read it next time your in.
My point is, you think its bugged. that doesnt necessarily mean that it is. We are going on 2 months with this boss never seeing any fix with multiple threads like this one asking for a fix. I wonder why that is?
Hey, the gates of Arah have been bugged on and off for all that time, with multiple requests for a fix or disabling of the entry event until a fix can be found with little to no acknowledgement.
Are you going to claim this isn’t a bug?
The fight is broken. You found a way to circumvent it. Congratulations. Now quit trying to obfuscate the truth of the matter.
The difference is… I have never said the gates to arah isnt broken. Nor is there a plethora of posts saying the gates arent broken. Your example is moot because in your example, no one is claiming anything else. The chain that leads to opening the gates can and will bug out but that doesnt mean that just because 1 thing is bugged and you cant do it means the other is bugged because you cant do it.
Theres lots of people completing Sinin in your so called bugged state. no one can complete the gates once they bug out. Your argument just doesnt make sense.
Wrong. Anyone who logs in inside the gates can get a party inside.
Someone on a server where the gates work can get people on a server where they don’t inside.
A mesmer can ferry people through with portals.
3 ways to get into Arah while it is perma-closed. By the logic you use with Simin, it’s not bugged.
I said complete the gate chain. I didnt say get people into arah around the chain. As I said in the other thread, keep on waiting for Sinin to be changed by the devs. In the mean time, ill be looting her chest and laughing at you.
Completing the gate chain is irrelevant. It’s a means to an end, the end being access to Arah.
Arah is technically accessable even with this bug, therefore it’s not a bug by your logic.
As I’ve said, do as you please, and kindly inflict your personality somewhere else.
Or what? Somewhere, someone told you that your opinion is the only one that counts. If someone has a different opinion, the best you can do is scream and shout and tell them to leave a thread that you aren’t even the OP of like your the boss.
I love how you’re playing the victim now. Because you totally weren’t screaming that everything’s fine and implying anybody who has difficulty with the glitched mechanic is a noob or anything.
Who cares who the OP is? What authority do you presume that gives? This is the internet, not the army.
Btw, OP, did you beat the boss after 5 hours or not? I’m not sure i understood
BTW, just some of you know, this is not the only boss with invisibility. There is, guess what, an other one, on CM. And she takes damage too, when invisible
It’s invisibility, not a portal to an other healing dimension. It’s not an exploit.
Thank you very much for your feedback. However, this thread has derailed into something rather negative and disrespectful and remains no longer constructive. Therefore we will proceed to close it. Remember that all points of view are welcome here as long as they are kept civil.
