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Simple Raid Builds
hi I think easiest dps profession to play for raids currently is condi ranger
scroll down to condi ranger and check out.
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hi I think easiest dps profession to play for raids currently is condi ranger
scroll down to condi ranger and check out.
Simple to play, but expensive to gear up. Anything Viper’s require heavy ammount of grinding for HoT story completion, map currencies AND gold… You can’t simply go to marketplace and buy something. Even crafting Viper gear is very expensive, plus leveling crafting if he hasn’t already.
Power Daredevil isn’t that bad and the rotation isn’t that hard.
Power engi: http://qtfy.eu/build/engineer, to make it super simple (and still ok dps), stay on bomb kit and just use auto attacks.
Power thief: http://qtfy.eu/build/thief, again you can simply use auto attacks only (naturally cost you some dps, but still ok).
Not sure what I’d consider to be 3’th simplest build. But thats a start.
I recommend power engi. Auto attack + rifle turret tool belt alone will get you to passable numbers. Additionally it brings solid cc, utility like blinds,immob,chill, and can easily double blast a waterfield.
Additionally I recommend power engi over power thief, because the optimal rotation for power thief is quite a bit different from the easy rotation, it involves things like pointing the camera downwards and untargetting the boss. While improving your power engi rotation is just adding in a few extra skills in between your auto attacks.
http://qtfy.eu/build/Engineer/#power_engie
For power dps:
staff thief, dh (hammer or gs/scepter/torch either are ez to pull off)
D/WH temp is also ez
Power engi also ez and effective.
For condi:
Ranger, Mesm,Rev, Temp are also really ez.
Sorry if this is offtopic, but the Hammer Guard build is a good raid build? One of my friends is new to the game and wants to play that, so an easy to use build for guard would be great lol
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Power Ps Warrior. Basically spam hundred blades and arc divider, swap to mace shield when it’s time to break. All gear is easy to obtain. Plus you’ll always be welcome to all raids.
Sorry if this is offtopic, but the Hammer Guard build is a good raid build? One of my friends is new to the game and wants to play that, so an easy to use build for guard would be great lol
Can it do the most DPS in the game? No
Can it do enough DPS to kill most raid boss just by auto-attacking? Yes
So, it’s the kind of build that I would recommend to new players as they can solely focus on raid mechanic without worrying about crazy DPS rotation.
hi I think easiest dps profession to play for raids currently is condi ranger
scroll down to condi ranger and check out.
Hello,
Thank you for your feedback, but condi-ranger doesn’t seem that easy to me to play. Not only the gear will be very expensive but also the rotation is complicated. You constantly have to swap weapon to activate “quick draw” and then you need to use a specific skill for optimal DPS. Also, the rotation has 28 steps
1. Sharpening Stone
2. Entangle
3. Crippling Shot
4. Poison Volley
5. Swap weapons
6. Quickdraw – Bonfire
7. Throw Torch
8. Splitblade
9. Winter’s Bite
10. Flame Trap
11. Viper’s Nest
12. Ricochet (auto attack)
13. Splitblade
14. Bonfire
15. Winter’s Bite
16. Splitblade
17. Throw Torch
18. Swap weapons
19. Quickdraw – Poison Volley
20. Crippling shot
21. Poison Volley
22. Crossfire (auto attack)
23. Flame Trap
24. Viper’s Nest
25. Poison Volley
26. Crippling shot
27. Swap weapons
28. Repeat from step 5
Did you mean that if the ranger just camp axe/torch it will do good enough DPS, if not I don’t think it is simple enough for what I’m searching.
For condition damage, the easiest seems to be revenant I think: http://qtfy.eu/build/Revenant
You only auto attack and spam 3 skills.
Power Ps Warrior. Basically spam hundred blades and arc divider, swap to mace shield when it’s time to break. All gear is easy to obtain. Plus you’ll always be welcome to all raids.
Can power PS still do the job, sure. But it will not be welcome in many groups. The last few nerfs to power war hit it to hard. It is not a build I’d recommend someone to pick up atm.
Did you mean that if the ranger just camp axe/torch it will do good enough DPS, if not I don’t think it is simple enough for what I’m searching.
You “can” stay on axe/torch, or stay on shortbow. But you will lose alot of dmg. If you want a condi build thats easy, I’d say condi temp is what to pick.
pro/cons of condi temp: as any temp dmg build, you are NOT tanky, on the + side the rotation is simply, and if you cant keep up with it, then its not a huge problem. Simply use all your skills all the time and your dps will be ok (can be better, but its still ok).
If you want a power build: as mentioned, power engi, power thief or power (hammer) DH. In my opinion hammer DH is by far the hardest of the 3. Since your dmg loss from not using F1 at the right times or interrupting your AA chain will be huge dps losses.
For condition damage, the easiest seems to be revenant I think: http://qtfy.eu/build/Revenant
You only auto attack and spam 3 skills.
Only reason I dont agre is simply that condi rev is kinda bad unless you are doing Cairn or mathias. It can also work on VG, but that is about it.
Thx for your input
Power Ps Warrior. Basically spam hundred blades and arc divider, swap to mace shield when it’s time to break. All gear is easy to obtain. Plus you’ll always be welcome to all raids.
Can power PS still do the job, sure. But it will not be welcome in many groups. The last few nerfs to power war hit it to hard. It is not a build I’d recommend someone to pick up atm.
But which one will do better. A condi PS with poor rotation or a power PS with poor rotation?
Thx for your input
Power Ps Warrior. Basically spam hundred blades and arc divider, swap to mace shield when it’s time to break. All gear is easy to obtain. Plus you’ll always be welcome to all raids.
Can power PS still do the job, sure. But it will not be welcome in many groups. The last few nerfs to power war hit it to hard. It is not a build I’d recommend someone to pick up atm.
But which one will do better. A condi PS with poor rotation or a power PS with poor rotation?
honestly, not sure. I have seen power wars doing 2-3k dps (not even kidding), and condi war doing 5-6k.. both are so bad that auto attacking will give you more dps. So anything can be made useless.
Magi Healer Druid- Very cheap and easy to gear. Ascended isn’t even needed in most cases.
Staff thief- Your “Press 1 Connoisseur” Fairly straight forward to gear. Your typical zerk+scholar runes.
Condi Ele DPS- Expensive to gear (vipers) but unlike power tempest, you don’t need to play the rotation like a piano to keep competitive. Top tier DPS on large stationary targets. You camp fire and press buttons.
Hammer Guard- Another Press 1 hero but it’s not usually going to land you a raid spot
Power PS warr though it’s probably better to learn the condi variant asap. Easily double the damage despite it being a more rotationally difficult “support” role.
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Why does everyone keep saying condi builds are expensive to make? I have like 7 condi classes and they all were dirt cheap to make. Just checked the price of black diamonds and they’re only marginally more expensive than T6 blood, which is used for power builds. Is there something that I’m missing? Did the recipe change?
The only builds I recall being expensive to make were minstrel’s and trailblazer’s (for WvW), because they use >10g upgrade components, which can cost you a lot if you’re not lucky with raid drops and have to make some pieces on your own.
But which one will do better. A condi PS with poor rotation or a power PS with poor rotation?
Condi ps. The power ps rotation is more skillful imo, so the same player with equal practice on both will do better with condi ps.
There are 3 bosses players may argue are exceptions. VG because low toughness, Sloth because he condi clenses, and KC because you need 20 second burst. But honestly, condi ps brings much better qualitative characteristics for 2/3 of these fights. For vg, condi ps can do green circles and red guardian. For sloth, condi ps can make sure to direct scorched earths inwards and make up for bad mesmer pulls, and thus hit amazing cleave damage.
For kc though, I do hit higher numbers using power ps, although not that much higher now that arc divider was nerfed. Additionally, being able to burst spirits down is very helpful. But honestly, the majority of your dps at kc should just come from 4 staff eles running tempest defense, and if your having trouble phasing, the warrior isn’t the problem unless they are not generating might.
A beginner should look at power ps as a niche build for hardcore players to obtain as they get more into raiding. Condi ps is the default warrior build now.