Soloing Brie as a Mesmer

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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So I finally managed to solo arah p2 lupi as a mesmer and something I always wanted to know:

Is there a way for a mesmer to solo Brie in a single phase-shift cycle? While other classes can accomplish this with relative ease, mesmer phantasm afaik are pretty useless for this fight.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

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You need like quad mantras, and some lucky crits :P

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Thanks. Is there a certain rotation that involves shatters or is it just purely using sword autos?

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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I got her to 55% with timewarp once, was missing food though and didn’t have feedback.
Just autoattacks + blurred frenzy on cooldown.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Thanks Dub. Is there anything that feedback can reflect? I was under the impression that feedback was not useful in that fight.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

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You can reflect her auto attack. Also, if you’re running compounding power (you probably should be), remember to put illusions up anyway, even though they don’t do damage to her.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Feedback reflects all the projectiles she throws around. Usually being reflected for ~4k damage.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Wow I didn’t know that. I always thought she only have that beam attack. Thanks! I will give it a go the next time

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Posted by: durend.6237

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I’ve gotten her to 50% in one go on mesmer with no party buffs.

First thing, assassins armor + perception stacks, you have no fury, but with those two you’ll be in the high 70s% crit chance (still use berserker accessories).

I’ll use a sigil of battle in my main hand sword and inquest slaying in my offhands. curry butternut squash soup is your best food option and ofc the inquest potion.

Also phantasms do 0 damage to her. Switch your empowered illusions to mental torment and compounding power to precise wrack and shatter as often as possible (deceptive evasion for clone generation).

For offhands: sword for the quick shatter bait phantasm and clone on block skill. otherwise I’ve found myself liking torch for the higher damaging skill on the 4th skill. Also torches phantasm has a quicker cast time, so I can get it out to shatter quicker (countered by higher CD however)

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Would zerker be good as well? Afaik assassin is used mainly to boost reflection dmg. But I must say, that setup is pretty specific.

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Posted by: Syn Sity.5826

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If you are playing solo assassin’s would work quite well since you don’t have fury/banner of discipline or any other party buffs and your crit chance would be quite low with berserker’s. But of course berserker would work, I’ve been able to get brie to 50% on a mesmer with berserker armor just shatter alot and hope for the best.

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Posted by: durend.6237

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If you are playing solo assassin’s would work quite well since you don’t have fury/banner of discipline or any other party buffs and your crit chance would be quite low with berserker’s. But of course berserker would work, I’ve been able to get brie to 50% on a mesmer with berserker armor just shatter alot and hope for the best.

pretty much this. berserker you need those “lucky crits” someone talked about above, sacrificing some power for assassins reaching over 75% crit chance is very doable and can lead to an overall DPS increase most of the time (unless the berserker person got very lucky). Once again, only armor assassins, keep your accessories berserker.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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Well it make sense since my crit chance is only hovering around 54%. Will try these out the next time thanks!

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Full berserker is way stronger. 10% on average if not buffed. You would have to be really, really unlucky to make assassin armor “better” (and even then only with more luck).
Also: Undead Slaying and Potion.

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Posted by: Sanderinoa.8065

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Expecting you to be running a build with atleast ten in domination and 30 in fueling, its not really hard. And should work with asassins as well as berserkers.
Get the empowering mantras trait plus 4 mantras, deceptive evasion and blade training in dueling. Switch empowered illusions to 20% mind wreck damage. Use S/S. Go in, spawn a phantasm to start, use sword 3, dodge twice, mind wreck, use illusionary riposte when you see the laser incoming, rest auto attack, dodging and shattering when on full endurance(spawn an illusion up front for more damage ofc). and blurred frenzy when you feel like it.

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Posted by: durend.6237

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Full berserker is way stronger. 10% on average if not buffed. You would have to be really, really unlucky to make assassin armor “better” (and even then only with more luck).
Also: Undead Slaying and Potion.

Maybe I have been unlucky, I’ve just found that with 68% crit chance (full berserker + curry butternut squash soup + 25 perception) vs 75% crit chance (assassins armor/weapons rest berserker, same food/sigil) I end up seeing my 3rd sword auto attack (or any attack really) not crit more often then I’d like.

In any case I haven’t really put a stop watch to anything. Just know what I see about the rate of critical hits on screen (where I may be more apt to notice the misses) and my odd tendency to think sub 70% = not likely to happen.

Anyway, at what point do you judge crit chance to be high enough? For instance, would it be worth it to use a 56% crit chance and stack bloodlust? My dislike of random chance makes me like that number even less, but I’ll accept you’ve probably done testing then I have.

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Posted by: mosspit.8936

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@Sanderinoa: Yea I previously wasn’t having 30 in dueling. Anyways I retraited for Empowering Mantras and am pretty happy with the increased dps. Which also means Im not using Compunding Power.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

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Anyway, at what point do you judge crit chance to be high enough? For instance, would it be worth it to use a 56% crit chance and stack bloodlust? My dislike of random chance makes me like that number even less, but I’ll accept you’ve probably done testing then I have.

I’ve been doing the maths. Precision usually becomes better than power when you already have 3200-3500 power. Since that never happens unless you’re a warrior, an ele or running some strange build (necro DS/HGH engi) addi.g power is almost always the best choice. Exceptions are made at reflects, power has no effect on those.

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Posted by: durend.6237

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I went looking for a DPS calculator and found Nike’s.

His formula is: power * (1 + crit chance * crit damage) * modifiers

Best to worst set up I found to be:

  1. assassin’s armor & berserker weapons/trinkets
  2. assassin’s weapons & berserker armor/trinkets
  3. full berserker
  4. assassin’s armor/weapons & berserker trinkets

Yellow to compare better base damages, Green to compare max potential with food/sigil.

This was using a 10/30/0/20/10 build and factoring in 210 might for 6 stacks of might with sigil of battle. I didn’t bother entering the modifiers as it would affect everything equally.

Overall the increase is less then 1% so it probably isn’t worth it unless you have nothing better to spend money on.

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Posted by: Anicetus.1253

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Ew, you’re right. I was assuming it would behave same for mesmer as for warrior. Apparently doesn’t, berserker armor + 100 prec food is only going to be better in high might stack situations. Interesting how 9 power can be quite a bit better than 0 precision.

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