Speaking of LI request on join
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30 Li is MORE than enough. I ignore any groups with stupid requests for LI. I once made the mistake of joining one where the leader had 60 li. He kept missing the green on VG.
LI is NOT a barometer of skill. It’s like the old days of people looking for 5k ap for dungeon runs. Just ignore them.
LI are an indicator of experience and not of skill. You dont need much skill for these raids anyway, experience is more important.
30 is definitely not enough to proof experience, thats just each boss 3 times
So getting each boss down 3 times is not enough to prove experience? LOL. Well how many is..10..20? The example I gave showed a guy with 60 li’s couldn’t even repeatedly make it to the green circles on VG, causing the rest of us to wipe several times. As far as I’m concerned if you get the boss down once successfully, that is experience enough.
The idea that 30 LI’s is not enough to show you can succeed is absurd. They should be taken as a simple indicator that you have reasonable experience at encountering the fights. But to dismiss someone for simply having 30 LI’s is ridiculous and that is not a group I would want to play in. Not only that, people can post LI code links in chat that are complete BS. Hence 9/10 I make my own groups and get all the bosses I attempt down.
3 kills per boss is definitely not enough to be considered “experienced”. 3 kills per boss is what experienced people do in a single week
Personally I probably got more than 500 raid boss kills so far and still not perfectWell no offence, but if after 500 kills, you still don’t have the bosses down to a tee, I think that says more about your own personal experience and skills rather than the raiding community at large. Maybe not everyone needed that level of repetition that you did to gain a comfortable level of experience.
Not really, even people from renowned guilds like SC and qT fail sometimes. There is always stuff that can go wrong that you can improve on. So I can only laugh about people who think they are “kill everything on first try” material with less than 100 LI.
People have different skill caps and learning speeds, yes. But being able to call yourself experienced after just 3 kills of a boss is just nonsense.
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(edited by Malediktus.9250)
30 Li is MORE than enough. I ignore any groups with stupid requests for LI. I once made the mistake of joining one where the leader had 60 li. He kept missing the green on VG.
LI is NOT a barometer of skill. It’s like the old days of people looking for 5k ap for dungeon runs. Just ignore them.
LI are an indicator of experience and not of skill. You dont need much skill for these raids anyway, experience is more important.
30 is definitely not enough to proof experience, thats just each boss 3 times
So getting each boss down 3 times is not enough to prove experience? LOL. Well how many is..10..20? The example I gave showed a guy with 60 li’s couldn’t even repeatedly make it to the green circles on VG, causing the rest of us to wipe several times. As far as I’m concerned if you get the boss down once successfully, that is experience enough.
The idea that 30 LI’s is not enough to show you can succeed is absurd. They should be taken as a simple indicator that you have reasonable experience at encountering the fights. But to dismiss someone for simply having 30 LI’s is ridiculous and that is not a group I would want to play in. Not only that, people can post LI code links in chat that are complete BS. Hence 9/10 I make my own groups and get all the bosses I attempt down.
3 kills per boss is definitely not enough to be considered “experienced”. 3 kills per boss is what experienced people do in a single week
Personally I probably got more than 500 raid boss kills so far and still not perfectWell no offence, but if after 500 kills, you still don’t have the bosses down to a tee, I think that says more about your own personal experience and skills rather than the raiding community at large. Maybe not everyone needed that level of repetition that you did to gain a comfortable level of experience.
Not really, even people from renowned guilds like SC and qT fail sometimes. There is always stuff that can go wrong that you can improve on. So I can only laugh about people who think they are “kill everything on first try” material with less than 100 LI.
People have different skill caps and learning speeds, yes. But being able to call yourself experienced after just 3 kills of a boss is just nonsense.
I’ve run with groups that have one-shot everything and have between 100-150 LI. The only bosses where kittenty RNG is a thing would probably be KC and Xera (we would have one-shot Xera had it not been for leyline gliding malfunctions).
It doesn’t take that much to achieve one-shot consistency on everything else (maybe Matthias is a bit more demanding, but everything else is a cakewalk after less than 50 attempts, and maybe half a dozen kills – assuming the entire group is equally experienced).
30 Li is MORE than enough. I ignore any groups with stupid requests for LI. I once made the mistake of joining one where the leader had 60 li. He kept missing the green on VG.
LI is NOT a barometer of skill. It’s like the old days of people looking for 5k ap for dungeon runs. Just ignore them.
LI are an indicator of experience and not of skill. You dont need much skill for these raids anyway, experience is more important.
30 is definitely not enough to proof experience, thats just each boss 3 times
So getting each boss down 3 times is not enough to prove experience? LOL. Well how many is..10..20? The example I gave showed a guy with 60 li’s couldn’t even repeatedly make it to the green circles on VG, causing the rest of us to wipe several times. As far as I’m concerned if you get the boss down once successfully, that is experience enough.
The idea that 30 LI’s is not enough to show you can succeed is absurd. They should be taken as a simple indicator that you have reasonable experience at encountering the fights. But to dismiss someone for simply having 30 LI’s is ridiculous and that is not a group I would want to play in. Not only that, people can post LI code links in chat that are complete BS. Hence 9/10 I make my own groups and get all the bosses I attempt down.
3 kills per boss is definitely not enough to be considered “experienced”. 3 kills per boss is what experienced people do in a single week
Personally I probably got more than 500 raid boss kills so far and still not perfectWell no offence, but if after 500 kills, you still don’t have the bosses down to a tee, I think that says more about your own personal experience and skills rather than the raiding community at large. Maybe not everyone needed that level of repetition that you did to gain a comfortable level of experience.
Not really, even people from renowned guilds like SC and qT fail sometimes. There is always stuff that can go wrong that you can improve on. So I can only laugh about people who think they are “kill everything on first try” material with less than 100 LI.
People have different skill caps and learning speeds, yes. But being able to call yourself experienced after just 3 kills of a boss is just nonsense.
I think you are mixing up the idea of trying to perfect something with “experience”. There’s a difference between knowing something so well that you could almost do it blind and having enough experience to do the wings within a few goes.
Anyways, it’s all rather irrelevant. Not having 100 li is not really holding my raid group from completing the content at all, so each to their own.
(edited by Mitch.4781)
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