Guild Wars 2

Forgive me for this but i’m reposting an idea I had a few months back. I posted it on the Warrior forum but (not) surprisingly it didn’t get any replies for it.

Original:

I’m sitting in a level 37 fractal right now and 3-manning it with my guild. We got to talking about useful condi in PvE. Vulnerability, Blinds, Weakness. I don’t feel like there’s much use for the 170 healing power on Banner of Tactics, I don’t directly heal people except for the occasional use of Inspiring Battle Standard for regen when ranging a boss, and water blasts more than out heal anything the banner can provide. I feel like Tactics being changed to +10% Boon Duration / +10% Condi Duration could be a viable change. It would not only allow PvE warriors to bring another form of utility to a party, but it could also potentially have use as an alternate utility skill for condi warriors. Just thinking out loud here, what’s everyone’s opinion?

Original thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Suggestion-Tactics-Banner-Condi-Duration

Still useless.

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

Xytl.8659:

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

So you want to use 3 banner builds?

I want a banner healing skill.

5 banners warrior sounds like fun, but we don’t have enough hands to hold all of them (and we know nobody gonna pick them up for us).

warrior specialization trait: dual wield banners.

Jerus.4350:

Xytl.8659:

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

So you want to use 3 banner builds?

No, I want to have another option for Fractals and also for Condi Warriors in WvW and sPvP to have a viable banner to use. In most non-fractal dungeons there would be no need to use a Tactics banner even with my change, fights just don’t last long enough to where vuln decays or blinds are needed.

I think 10% boon duration, 10% outgoing condition duration (or maybe -10% incoming condition duration?), and the 170 healing power would be fair. Let’s compare banners to weapons. Banner of discipline’s 170 ferocity and precision is almost the same as getting 2 primary stats from a two-handed weapon. An exotic greatsword gives +179 to its main stat. If condition duration and boon duration are roughly equal value stats, then the +10% from banner of tactics is only half of the stats an exotic two handed weapon gives, as giver’s two handed weapons give 20% condi duration, not 10%.

Not sure if this makes any sense but I think it would be completely fair to either raise the boon duration to 20% or add 10% outgoing condition duration or -10% incoming condition duration. It wouldn’t really matter much sense I still couldn’t see Banner of Tactics being used anywhere but I don’t think there is much harm in buffing underused skills. Not that this would ever happen anyway, just my thoughts on it.

Xytl.8659:

Forgive me for this but i’m reposting an idea I had a few months back. I posted it on the Warrior forum but (not) surprisingly it didn’t get any replies for it.

Original:

I’m sitting in a level 37 fractal right now and 3-manning it with my guild. We got to talking about useful condi in PvE. Vulnerability, Blinds, Weakness. I don’t feel like there’s much use for the 170 healing power on Banner of Tactics, I don’t directly heal people except for the occasional use of Inspiring Battle Standard for regen when ranging a boss, and water blasts more than out heal anything the banner can provide. I feel like Tactics being changed to +10% Boon Duration / +10% Condi Duration could be a viable change. It would not only allow PvE warriors to bring another form of utility to a party, but it could also potentially have use as an alternate utility skill for condi warriors. Just thinking out loud here, what’s everyone’s opinion?

Original thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Suggestion-Tactics-Banner-Condi-Duration

It’s a neat idea. It would see a lot more use in Zerg vs. Zerg. Even though I think +10% Boon duration / +10% Condi duration seems a bit too humble. In my opinion, +15-20% wouldn’t break the game, considering where to condi duration matters the most (i.e. WvW) already see the frequent use -40% condi duration food. In SPvP, you need to spec heavily for +100% condi duration as well.

Jerus.4350:

Xytl.8659:

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

So you want to use 3 banner builds?

When you low-man fractals, condi is very very strong.

And i want more than 1 of my 5 Spirits being useful.
I also want more than 1 of my shouts being useful.
I also want cookies to be in my mouth.

I wonder, which of the above things i will get first.
Tip: I only got one of the above during the past 2 and a half years.

Now take a guess what will not happen to your banner of tactics (as well as my spirits and shouts, aka half my utilities) anytime soon.

My mom always says: “Ask nicely and you may get what you want.”

wauwi.9162:

And i want more than 1 of my 5 Spirits being useful.
I also want more than 1 of my shouts being useful.
I also want cookies to be in my mouth.

I wonder, which of the above things i will get first.
Tip: I only got one of the above during the past 2 and a half years.

Now take a guess what will not happen to your banner of tactics (as well as my spirits and shouts, aka half my utilities) anytime soon.

So go make your opinion heard. You can do a lot more than just sitting here in my thread complaining about it. I never once posted in someone elses thread saying “Aw man I wish I had more useful banners”. I went and made a thread about it. When I didn’t get any replies, I made another one. If nobody ever hears your idea, it doesn’t have even the slightest chance of being considered or even seen by the developers on these forums.

Xytl.8659:

Jerus.4350:

Xytl.8659:

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

So you want to use 3 banner builds?

No, I want to have another option for Fractals and also for Condi Warriors in WvW and sPvP to have a viable banner to use. In most non-fractal dungeons there would be no need to use a Tactics banner even with my change, fights just don’t last long enough to where vuln decays or blinds are needed.

My point is just that if you made it that, you’d likely want your warrior running 3 banners, unless for whatever reason the other two weren’t good in that same situation. Would you not?

Jerus.4350:

Xytl.8659:

Jerus.4350:

Xytl.8659:

oxtred.7658:

And if you buff it to something actually useful, it would make warriors even more close to banner kittenes.

Until they give a Warrior any more utility than might and banners, you might as well buff the banners a little and give us some variety in which ones we can use. Right now it’s as simple as Green>Red>Purple>Orange, in fractals it could definitely be of use to have condition duration.

So you want to use 3 banner builds?

No, I want to have another option for Fractals and also for Condi Warriors in WvW and sPvP to have a viable banner to use. In most non-fractal dungeons there would be no need to use a Tactics banner even with my change, fights just don’t last long enough to where vuln decays or blinds are needed.

My point is just that if you made it that, you’d likely want your warrior running 3 banners, unless for whatever reason the other two weren’t good in that same situation. Would you not?

Phalanx Strength warriors (the only ones you see in fractals) will not give up their third slot for another banner. It may happen in regular dungeons, but in the situations that the extra condi duration would actually help, there are already better options. Signet of Fury and Signet of Stamina are already very good skills, and in many cases Stamina is a skill that cannot be lost. In my case Tactics would replace a Strength banner, not my signet.