Guild Wars 2

http://youtu.be/nmFx8KIb26Q

I think I figured it out, finally.

I threw up a little thinking about how many times you did the grenth fight over the past few days

Wukunlin.8461:

I threw up a little thinking about how many times you did the grenth fight over the past few days

We figured out how to pull the Wraiths out of their circles and bring them into the middle, so that makes it a bit easier…. It still sucks though.

Grenth:
Usually the only one that is really hard to pull to the center is the wraith that pops on the seal from the first boss position, he tends to reset a bit easy to that spot, while the others you can just go say hi and they will come

Simin:
Oh, and the bug was confirmed some time ago by anet developpers (like 6 months now, when Houdra was saying they need to revamp that encounter). I really need to get that thread back. And it is not due to letting her regen more or not.

What you show, is actually the Phase 1. Phase 1 works like this:

• If my life was over 60% or 70% when I appeared, i will stealth at 50%
• otherwise, I switch to phase 2, which is on a timer that’s around a minute.

Also, I admit, the only time we encountered the bug, we did a complete boss reset, went back at it, and downed it easy peasy.

Accusing us of having 30 second spark pulls when my very first post about it said they were 15… followed by 7 seconds to beat on her. … We get it, you don’t think it’s a bug. Now get this… she never got over 55% health when we were pulling sparks. And definitely no where near 65%.

Also not asking Anet to make spark pull time not factor into the DPS-window. Obviously it’s easy enough already. … Just want them to fix how their stupid NPC’s can’t be reset when something really buggy actually DOES happen to them. (like Simin standing there fighting us for 3 straight minutes @ exactly 51% HP which you still haven’t explained).

Hey, I got a shout out. Get jealous nerds

Well done managing to replicate it, that looks pretty much like what I had experienced in my run. Will be interesting to see if others who ‘think’ they encountered a bug can relate to what happens in your video or will claim something completely different happened.

ilr.9675:

Accusing us of having 30 second spark pulls when my very first post about it said they were 15… followed by 7 seconds to beat on her. … We get it, you don’t think it’s a bug. Now get this… she never got over 55% health when we were pulling sparks. And definitely no where near 65%.

Also not asking Anet to make spark pull time not factor into the DPS-window. Obviously it’s easy enough already. … Just want them to fix how their stupid NPC’s can’t be reset when something really buggy actually DOES happen to them. (like Simin standing there fighting us for 3 straight minutes @ exactly 51% HP which you still haven’t explained).

But you don’t have a video of it, do you? I mean unless you’ve posted a video and I’ve missed it, saying that you brought the sparks in 15 seconds and only got 7 seconds to DPS her means nothing to me.

She sits there for 3 minutes and does nothing? I have no idea. I don’t want to go bug hunting for something else like that, I’ve done enough path 4s for now. If you were to go in and record fights and find something I’ve not found after doing the best job I can searching, I’d happily watch your videos and side with you if it looked like a problem. The reason I spent hours doing this in the first place was get video evidence of a problem so the developers could see it and do something about it.

The spark pulls of my group definately werent that slow. Some of them might of been pretty bad but some of them were faster than your average pull, yet she still went invis after a couple of seconds. Although our spark pulls were good it felt like simin was regening unusually fast for quite a few attempts. And that may be whats causing the problem. Not sure how to replicate that though.

If full reset usually helps with the problem then rare bug (or feature) causing stronger regeneration would make sense.

I can confirm that the one time I did P4 with some guildies, she bugged out. We had bad spark runs, but on spark runs that took us around 10 seconds, we only had about 4 seconds to DPS her. This went on for what seemed like forever.

Just confirming that I have seen her bug out and not give you the full time ‘window’ to DPS her. This was our first time through and at the time she was fairly recently revamped so we were not sure if it was a bug or not. Now, I am convinced it was.

in the same way, you can have sparks pop before she goes stealh and you stupidly run them, then she goes stealth… and your like… wtf… or simin not going stealth anymore and doing nothing. That fight is bugged insanely so.
really need to film some of my simin fights

I would love to see all of these problems people are having. I simply haven’t encountered them and I’d wager I’ve done more path 4’s than everyone who has posted here combined.

That’s quite wild claim but I take your word for it.

I have also seen Simin just standing still and doing nothing.

Hmm ran it like 35 times pre and post patches, not much, still looking for that frigging reciepe running one more tonight, i ll try to get her to bug. I really want that bloodstone fragment receipe

I’ll just say that I’ve done path 4 with the same resolve of a CoF farmer in hopes of getting the recipe. All of that and I’ve not had a problem with Simin (aside from the first 2 times I did it while I was learning the fight). All of that being said, I’d like to see a video of this “bug” happening so I can get a feel for what is going on and see what causes it. #Science

Chryzo.8906:

Hmm ran it like 35 times pre and post patches, not much, still looking for that frigging reciepe running one more tonight, i ll try to get her to bug. I really want that bloodstone fragment receipe

Just for the name? O_o

Khisanth.2948:

Chryzo.8906:

Hmm ran it like 35 times pre and post patches, not much, still looking for that frigging reciepe running one more tonight, i ll try to get her to bug. I really want that bloodstone fragment receipe

Just for the name? O_o

It’s one of the better dungeon recipe in terms of profit for selling the crafted item on the TP. It’s worth it for someone who runs a lot of arah.

As someone who has never been lucky with recipes (the only dungeon recipe I ever got was alpha conduit.. ugh.) I wouldn’t even think of trying to spam p4 just for that. Chances are even a thousand try wouldn’t be enough to get it with that luck.

Nikaido.3457:

Khisanth.2948:

Chryzo.8906:

Hmm ran it like 35 times pre and post patches, not much, still looking for that frigging reciepe running one more tonight, i ll try to get her to bug. I really want that bloodstone fragment receipe

Just for the name? O_o

It’s one of the better dungeon recipe in terms of profit for selling the crafted item on the TP. It’s worth it for someone who runs a lot of arah.

As someone who has never been lucky with recipes (the only dungeon recipe I ever got was alpha conduit.. ugh.) I wouldn’t even think of trying to spam p4 just for that. Chances are even a thousand try wouldn’t be enough to get it with that luck.

I just figured anyone who wanted those stats would just get it with karma since I keep seeing people complaining about having tons of karma with no use for them.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

But you don’t have a video of it, do you?

And your videos only show what normally happens anyway. IE: you’re attempting to disprove an unkown, or attempting to say b/c you have 3 videos of it not happening, that it never ever happens. Yeah that’s how bugs work…. </sarcasm>

…except for the sparks showing up after her defeat… no I can’t comment on that one.
Either way… all you do is talk past me, and ignore all of the data I’ve provided. I can only assume you do this and make videos instead, b/c you don’t understand programming. THAT’S FINE. Most people don’t. Just say “I don’t believe you” and move on. There was never any reason to drag this out into an argument. It’s not a popularity contest… and there’s no reason to try and convinvce Anet NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS. Is that what you’re trying to do?? B/c I can’t for the life of me explain why you wouldn’t let this go and let the experts handle it. It’s not a job for D.P.S.‘perts. It’s a job for the guys who have the source code sitting right in front of them.

Here’s a question that defies all your Expertise as well:
When was the last time you took longer than 3 hours to get to Simin?

ilr.9675:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

But you don’t have a video of it, do you?

And your videos only show what normally happens anyway. IE: you’re attempting to disprove an unkown, or attempting to say b/c you have 3 videos of it not happening, that it never ever happens. Yeah that’s how bugs work…. </sarcasm>

…except for the sparks showing up after her defeat… no I can’t comment on that one.
Either way… all you do is talk past me, and ignore all of the data I’ve provided. I can only assume you do this and make videos instead, b/c you don’t understand programming. THAT’S FINE. Most people don’t. Just say “I don’t believe you” and move on. There was never any reason to drag this out into an argument. It’s not a popularity contest… and there’s no reason to try and convinvce Anet NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS. Is that what you’re trying to do?? B/c I can’t for the life of me explain why you wouldn’t let this go and let the experts handle it. It’s not a job for D.P.S.‘perts. It’s a job for the guys who have the source code sitting right in front of them.

Here’s a question that defies all your Expertise as well:
When was the last time you took longer than 3 hours to get to Simin?

Let’s do a 3 hour spark pull tonight Brazil

ilr.9675:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

But you don’t have a video of it, do you?

And your videos only show what normally happens anyway. IE: you’re attempting to disprove an unkown, or attempting to say b/c you have 3 videos of it not happening, that it never ever happens. Yeah that’s how bugs work…. </sarcasm>

…except for the sparks showing up after her defeat… no I can’t comment on that one.
Either way… all you do is talk past me, and ignore all of the data I’ve provided. I can only assume you do this and make videos instead, b/c you don’t understand programming. THAT’S FINE. Most people don’t. Just say “I don’t believe you” and move on. There was never any reason to drag this out into an argument. It’s not a popularity contest… and there’s no reason to try and convinvce Anet NOT TO INVESTIGATE THIS. Is that what you’re trying to do?? B/c I can’t for the life of me explain why you wouldn’t let this go and let the experts handle it. It’s not a job for D.P.S.‘perts. It’s a job for the guys who have the source code sitting right in front of them.

Here’s a question that defies all your Expertise as well:
When was the last time you took longer than 3 hours to get to Simin?

Yes my videos show what normally happens because there isn’t anything wrong with the fight. And the last time it took longer than 3 hours to get to Simin? About a month ago. I’ve also joined groups that have been stuck at Simin alone for hours because they couldn’t figure out what the sparks did. I showed them what to do, boom. First attempt and she’s dead in a few phases. No bug there, either. Calm down and think critically.

there was also a bug I heard from a former guildie that the cages can disappear altogether. I’ve never heard that one anywhere else so it is either fixed, exceedingly rare, or they were doing something REALLY wrong.

oh, i saw that one, but it was at the time 4-1 was in heavy use. Never seen it since going back to the 5 sparks full run
And in the end, no run last night on p4 /sad

Wethospu.6437:

That’s quite wild claim but I take your word for it.

I have also seen Simin just standing still and doing nothing.

Indeed one very wild claim.

Ops.

that is one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k09g0dPxL8&

bug: sparks while Simin is visible

That is some pretty weird stuff. It’s a shame they kicked you after all of that :/

stealth at 34s, sparks in at 1:06, stealth at 1:19, sparks in at 1:46, stealth at 2:06, sparks in at 3:00, dead at 3:29.

45 seconds stealth to stealth (except for one where she gave you an extra couple seconds for some reason), and even with a spark pull that lasted longer than a stealth window she gave you enough time to DPS her the rest of the way. The scenario the bug crowd is describing is her popping back at 50% and not giving a full 45 second stealth to stealth window.

I don’t know why some people are getting 45 and some are getting 55, that’s kind of odd. But your vid shows normal behavior as far as I can tell. It’s the stealth-to-stealth window that flips out (I still believe), though we don’t have any video evidence of that yet.

Broadicea.8294:

stealth at 34s, sparks in at 1:06, stealth at 1:19, sparks in at 1:46, stealth at 2:06, sparks in at 3:00, dead at 3:29.

45 seconds stealth to stealth (except for one where she gave you an extra couple seconds for some reason), and even with a spark pull that lasted longer than a stealth window she gave you enough time to DPS her the rest of the way. The scenario the bug crowd is describing is her popping back at 50% and not giving a full 45 second stealth to stealth window.

I don’t know why some people are getting 45 and some are getting 55, that’s kind of odd. But your vid shows normal behavior as far as I can tell. It’s the stealth-to-stealth window that flips out (I still believe), though we don’t have any video evidence of that yet.

The times for DPSing were normal, it was that there were sparks out attacking people while Simin was active.

oh lol I was so focused on the timer I didn’t even notice the entire point of the video

one more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTP4bKuETWc

though this one is only parts of a bigger bug. Not really easy to see, but 2 sparks went in the same circle. And sometimes getting the other sparks in the other circles won’t get Simin to pop back. Though, we got lucky this time ^^

my film got stuck somewhat a bit too ^^ but it should be ok still no reciepe

edited initial post too to say what the bug was

Could it be the new contents every 2 weeks start doing something to everything? Like the fractal ice elemental animation bug we’ve seen lately?

SkyChef.5432:

Could it be the new contents every 2 weeks start doing something to everything? Like the fractal ice elemental animation bug we’ve seen lately?

People have been complaining about those bugs loooooong before those things started.

Khisanth.2948:

SkyChef.5432:

Could it be the new contents every 2 weeks start doing something to everything? Like the fractal ice elemental animation bug we’ve seen lately?

People have been complaining about those bugs loooooong before those things started.

I mean those bugs from Chryzo videos, the sparks attacking players while Simin is still active and 2 sparks in the same circle. I’ve neither seen those bugs before nor heard any one talking about it. Have you?
The only one were talked a lot is Simin’s health regen at 50% and lately, the lack of dps time regardless how fast a spark run is.

SkyChef.5432:

Khisanth.2948:

SkyChef.5432:

Could it be the new contents every 2 weeks start doing something to everything? Like the fractal ice elemental animation bug we’ve seen lately?

People have been complaining about those bugs loooooong before those things started.

I mean those bugs from Chryzo videos, the sparks attacking players while Simin is still active and 2 sparks in the same circle. I’ve neither seen those bugs before nor heard any one talking about it. Have you?
The only one were talked a lot is Simin’s health regen at 50% and lately, the lack of dps time regardless how fast a spark run is.

The “2 sparks in the same cage” one yes. The other one … not sure. Only way to be sure is to ask google(because the forum’s search sucks/is broken).

2 sparks in cage was my first time seeing it for myself, but hear about it a while back.

Spark thingy, started seeing it i’d say about 2 months ago (not saying it started 2 months ago pp)

6 months ago, there was tons of message about Simin fights with lots of bugs

Sure, I take your words for that because 6 mos ago, I still run a wrong bow ranger w/ no pant. But that doesn’t invalidate my speculation because the bugs might been fixed to make it harder to appear but with the new change in the game environment, ugly things start to show up again.

2 sparks in the same circle or sparks appearing before she stealths are bugs, but when she keeps going back to phase 1, it means that your party sucks. Just that. Luring the sparks is not that hard