Guild Wars 2

With the current new system it seems like thief dont have enough dodges? I have looked it over and over, even with 4x daggers 2 of them energy sigils, there still doesnt seem to be enough? Ofc this is with wall and daggerstorm + all traits that even remotely help towards a increased dodge, but seems like it burn out to fast since it is not spread out but targeted to a single dodge.

Any thoughts? I might be very wrong on this subject btw, but really dont see how.

Its still possible, but its more RNG now.
You just have to be lucky that he doesn’t use 4 autoattacks in a row, because if he does, you’re kittened

Ohh…….seems like all he does is mainly 4 autoattacks, and even so, in the timer between 10-15 minutes of non 4 autoattacks seems rather impossible?

Stompy posted that he got it done, so I’m sure he may have some tips or can at least confirm it’s possible. Just no more rolling around carelessly.

Go perma stealth with caltrops, he doesn’t even fight back ez pz.

Note: I don’t endorse using this method but it does let you solo pretty much any boss that doesn’t have a dps check such as simin or brie.

Sword/dagger 3 evade doesn’t give enough evades?

Is it possible with death blossom, or is the 1/4 second evade too short because of lag?

Death blossom works on his bolt, but you can just use CnD and wait on the backstab to regen energy in stealth. And you need to pre-empt the bolt to dodge it.

Sorry I didn’t see this thread earlier

SlyDevil.3952:

Death blossom works on his bolt, but you can just use CnD and wait on the backstab to regen energy in stealth. And you need to pre-empt the bolt to dodge it.

Pretty much this. Honestly you don’t even really need that good of RNG.. going Trickery/Acro/Crit, if you make sure to never waste a dodge then you shouldn’t need to Death Blossom.

On the other hand, I’m currently doing Trickery/Crit/DA and I’ve found that it’s also possible w/o energy sigils. You just need to be tricky with using CnD/BS at the right times to delay his autos, and the occasional Death Blossom. Right before I typed this, I got him to like 51% at about 2:35 (well ahead of my pre bug WR pace) and I died… was like 1 millisecond away from a dodge, should have used Withdraw instead Q.Q

btw, if your ping/reaction time is good enough you don’t have to preemptively dodge, you can reactively dodge

I decided to try it a couple of times, and I definitely find it better with Trickery than Acrobatics. For P2 I’ve found that if you dodge every attack you need some RNG, but nothing special compared to before; it is still a huge rngfest with the AoEs when he does Frenzied Blast and like before if you don’t want to spam your dodges to survive you’ll get killed by them sometimes which is why I could see Trickery/Acro/Crit being the goto build for casual solos since you can just safely avoid the AoEs by spamming dodges. I also found it much easier to do P2 by not dodging his swipe and saving dodges for the autoattack. And lastly, if you’re out of dodges you can always stay in stealth for a second or two and wait a bit for cooldowns/endurance.

Going stealth with lupi is rather risky, at the moment he is bugged, even ussing cloak and dagger for damage only is a risk.

I will try it a few times more with the reomended settings, but I tried acrobatics + trickery, and seems like still not enough dodges even when only dodging for evade, the you can not get a evade endurance with AOE.

What do you mean it’s risky to go stealth on lupi? lol

While he is bugged, he does reset really fast, not abonormal thing that he walks towards his normal position while you uuse cloak and dagger for damage and press 1 fast.

-But I would like to know if anyone in game can solo him in here with thief? would aprecieate it alot! Message me in game if anyone can, I will do the whole path, just teach me how to solo with new traits (I normaly did solo him on a somewhat daily basis, so not new, just unexperienced with the new traits).

zengara.8301:

While he is bugged, he does reset really fast, not abonormal thing that he walks towards his normal position while you uuse cloak and dagger for damage and press 1 fast.

-But I would like to know if anyone in game can solo him in here with thief? would aprecieate it alot! Message me in game if anyone can, I will do the whole path, just teach me how to solo with new traits (I normaly did solo him on a somewhat daily basis, so not new, just unexperienced with the new traits).

He never resets for me when I CnD unless I’m doing some weird stuff and moving him. I can post a video in a couple of hours when I have time to show you how to solo him with DA, CS and Trickery

dboylolz.3916:

What do you mean it’s risky to go stealth on lupi? lol

Sometimes he’ll turn around and start returning to his start position when you stealth, if you get incredibly unlucky he’ll just reset when you go into stealth. Incredibly rare for either occurrence though, I think it’s mainly when you are stealthing too far away from his ‘spawn’, after he’s done some shadow walking.

SlyDevil.3952:

dboylolz.3916:

What do you mean it’s risky to go stealth on lupi? lol

Sometimes he’ll turn around and start returning to his start position when you stealth, if you get incredibly unlucky he’ll just reset when you go into stealth. Incredibly rare for either occurrence though, I think it’s mainly when you are stealthing too far away from his ‘spawn’, after he’s done some shadow walking.

Yeah, I know it happens sometimes, but it just very rarely happens to me. That’s what I meant.

Yeah a video would be awesome aswell :P

you can always push him around. should give you a second or 2 more when you need it.

https://youtu.be/8S53wB2ZfPw

Died on my first attempt because of the phase transition, so there’s still RNG involved like there always has been unless you go some kittened build with energy sigils and traits.

Much easier way to solo Lupi as thief:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZvXKAiZxw

I need a few minutes more than Abe but i think that´s not a shame ;D

I literally hurt every time I see smoke screen go down right before a ph3 AoE life steal. Everyone seems to do it, and it’s just….ow, lol.

Nice solos, both of ya — nothing is more fun than a thief in Arah