Guild Wars 2

Everyone feel free to add to this list. Just a couple fresh in my mind from last night’s disaster.

1) Don’t use knockbacks. Seriously, when everyone is hitting the mobs from melee range, your knockbacks are screwing the whole party when you move them. If you really want to use those knockbacks, save them for the fractal avengers. CC’s should be used to pull mobs together, not spread them apart.
2) Stop attacking from range. Half the bosses have some sort of shadowstep move that they ONLY USE when someone is not stacked on them. When they shadowstep, they effectively evade everyone else’s melee attacks. Use ranged weapons when you must, like when the molten berserker is in a sea of fire aoes, and there is no safe place to stand in melee range.
3) Learn the mechanics. It’s amazing how many times I have been the only one trying to knock down the boss’s shield on the volcanic fractal while everyone else just hammers on the elementals. There’s a written or video guide to every fractal. Watch them until you understand everything.

4) Don’t skip too many fractal scales. Take your time when you build up your scale, so you can get used to working with fractal wide mechanics like Agony, Instabilities or Fractal avengers.
5) Don’t force yourself into fractals you have yet to master. If something is unclear to you look it up in the wiki or ask players in Lions Arch or lower Scale fractals. Usually there is at least one friendly and helpful person around to help you out.

5) Don’t keep doing the same thing time after time hoping the next time will be different.

6) Don’t join a party doing a 40+ fractal and at boss announce you’ve no AR and you want to be carried.

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer or Revenant
8) Use Food

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4i9h3q/king_fully_updated_guides_for_master_tier/

ironfrodo.7625:

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer

9) that reaper is ezmode.

1. Know the mechanics.
2. Know your profession and build.
3. (Not optional) If you don’t know any of the above, say so at the beginning.
4. (Not optional) If you aren’t sure if your techniques will be the same as the group’s, say so at the start.

None of the specifics I’ve seen above really matter if folks have got those down.

ironfrodo.7625:

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer or Revenant or Ranger
8) Use appropriate, non-magic find Food and oils/stones/crystals

Fixed for you

10. Don’t plan to have a meal half way thru.

11. Never rely on pugs.

12. Your wishes will never come true

13. Don’t pug if you can’t handle the crowd.

/end

14. Be specific when posting the LFG

15. Respect the LFG when joining

16. If your friendly group Mesmer/Chronomancer is providing you with a helpful portal, you really can just go ahead and press the interact key to take it. Don’t have interact bound? You can double click the dialog.

17. That you can reflect/absorb/block the fireball stuff at the molten furnace weapon test part and stacking in the corner isn’t the optimal strat

Osu.6307:

1) Don’t use knockbacks. Seriously, when everyone is hitting the boss from melee range, your knockbacks are screwing the whole party when you move him.

oH, you can kback the bosses now? Thank god they went bakc to the old defiance thingy.

18. Use knock backs on bosses to break the break bar
19. Consult rule 18 while ignoring rule 1

deSade.9437:

Osu.6307:

1) Don’t use knockbacks. Seriously, when everyone is hitting the boss from melee range, your knockbacks are screwing the whole party when you move him.

oH, you can kback the bosses now? Thank god they went bakc to the old defiance thingy.

You can’t knock back anything with a break bar. Most bosses do, so most of the time it’s not a problem, but some still don’t, like the cat golems in Uncategorized. That said, knocking back elites and vets is just as annoying.

Osu.6307:

ironfrodo.7625:

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer or Revenant or Ranger
8) Use appropriate, non-magic find Food and oils/stones/crystals

Fixed for you

Nah Ranger is great for Highlevel fractals, to buff Team and keep the fury up

Osu.6307:

ironfrodo.7625:

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer or Revenant or Ranger
8) Use appropriate, non-magic find Food and oils/stones/crystals

Fixed for you

What are you on about lmao
All of those classes do fine in fractals…

I honestly just wish people would know what their skills and traits can do tbh, would help a lot. Bonus points if they would actually swap between them according to the situation.

Well, with the change to push all the vets to T4, all my advice turned to kitten.

But what I wish everyone knew was.

20) Be Honest! if you have no idea what you are doing, it’s better to tell me upfront and allow me to choose if I want to take the time to teach you then to really tick me off halfway though when I realize you have no idea what you’re doing.

- Understand basic mechanics (ie, blinds and reflections on mobs)

9/10 times a LFG fractal group doesn’t account for blinds or projectile reflects and it makes you want to cry.

21) You can’t glide in fractals. If you try, it will not work.

22) If you could glide in fractals, there would be no point in gliding off near the first two seals in Cliffside with the hammer.

23) if you’re joining a team that’s mostly all one guild (and you see they have the fractal backpiece even) don’t be a snot and give orders and tell them what they need to be doing.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

What are you on about lmao
All of those classes do fine in fractals…

I meant VANILLA classes. Elites are fine.

Osu.6307:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

What are you on about lmao
All of those classes do fine in fractals…

I meant VANILLA classes. Elites are fine.

NV is still right. They may not be optimal, but they were perfectly fine when fractals were (more) challenging.

We agree to disagree

I never care about class composition in Fractals. The encounters are easy enough even at 90+ that you can pretty much yolo anything so long as the players know what to expect.

I think if I could make every Fractal pub know one thing alone, it would be for them to know patience in the face of mistakes that inexorably get made. The only time I hate my life in Fractals is when people flip out unnecessarily; just leave if you really can’t stand the group.

24) Cliffside is for Llama’s. Arnold will save you.

• Reccommended agony resistance is not a suggestion. If you can not survive gear check agony, you should be doing a lower scale. it’s the entire reason agony exists.

• You can actually dodge those floor aoes.

• If your corner stacking strategy fails the first time, stop trying and just play the fight.

• If you go down, it is not the party’s fault. It is your fault. Act like it. You make mistakes like everyone else.

Don’t respect any statement on the forums to not play a certain class. All classes can do well.

Instead, learn your profession. Learn it well. Learn it inside and out.

Then, reevaluate as you climb the fractal ladder, because everything changes the higher you go. But, you’re adjusting and fine-tuning vs. remaking.

To make fractals easymode make this team:
- condi necro (high condi dmg for higl lvl fracs)
- assasin+zerk chrono with boon duration food/sigil/trinkets (combined with revenant facet of nature for max quickness uptime)
- revenant (glint + X for consta fury, boon duration facet to complement chrono quickness buff is a must)
- ele for dps
last is situational:
-warrior (can help with boon duration and mightstacks if ps)
or
- guardian(can help mesmer with reflecting in specfic fractals, I’d still prefer warrior on my team)

Still if ppl don’t understand their classes mechanic and dont use food and specific fractal utility you might have hard time.

Weerus.3701:

To make fractals easymode make this team:
- condi necro (high condi dmg for higl lvl fracs)
- assasin+zerk chrono with boon duration food/sigil/trinkets (combined with revenant facet of nature for max quickness uptime)
- revenant (glint + X for consta fury, boon duration facet to complement chrono quickness buff is a must)
- ele for dps
last is situational:
-warrior (can help with boon duration and mightstacks if ps)
or
- guardian(can help mesmer with reflecting in specfic fractals, I’d still prefer warrior on my team)

Still if ppl don’t understand their classes mechanic and dont use food and specific fractal utility you might have hard time.

or you know, 4 reapers 1 druid to harken back to the old days of 4 warriors 1 mes

its a lot less tryhard and not really slower

Yeah, the way reapers faceroll t4 fractals make me think they are gonna get a nerf soon. 4 reapers and a druid or ele healer is stupid easy.

That might be because T4 fractals are stupid easy.
Also, Necs having pretty much no group-buffing abilities whatsoever, so why would they need a nerf

What’s with all the hate on Rev’s for fractals?

iroh.2871:

What’s with all the hate on Rev’s for fractals?

Maybe the boon stealing instabilities but that doesn’t seem like an issue except for one in particular which rev doesn’t have access too from what I can remember.

Another may be for organized groups where the Rev’s role can be replaced by other classes. But then this thread is about pugs.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

That might be because T4 fractals are stupid easy.
Also, Necs having pretty much no group-buffing abilities whatsoever, so why would they need a nerf

They’ve got two big ones (the signet and the well), but they’re condition removers, as opposed to true buffs.

Daddicus.6128:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

That might be because T4 fractals are stupid easy.
Also, Necs having pretty much no group-buffing abilities whatsoever, so why would they need a nerf

They’ve got two big ones (the signet and the well), but they’re condition removers, as opposed to true buffs.

Those aren’t group-buffs. I’m talking about ways to share damage modifiers and whatnot. Necros are debuffers, so one of them in a five man group is enough. Multiple necros with plague signet would just hurt each other anyway. lmao I wouldn’t call Well of Power, if you mean that, a big one either tbh.

Back to Advice:

24) Take Everything someone says with a grain of salt.

• Everyone has an Opinion and it’s often wrong
• Everyone thinks they Know Everything
• /Wiki /Dulfy /Guild anything that someone says that could prove helpful before you just try to do it.

ironfrodo.7625:

7) Don’t enter as Necromancer or Revenant

My solo Mai Trin scale 100 as condi necromancer say hello gracefully to you.

PopeUrban.2578:

• If you go down, it is not the party’s fault. It is your fault. Act like it. You make mistakes like everyone else.

Sometimes this fact is not true.

If somebody use Retaliation at the wrong time, adds/boss can just steal it and you’ll die miserably because someone wanted to use it for no reason/don’t know singularity mechanics.

If you play ele with channeling skills you can’t remove, you probably know this feel.

STIHL.2489:

Back to Advice:

24) Take Everything someone says with a grain of salt.

• Everyone has an Opinion and it’s often wrong
• Everyone thinks they Know Everything
• /Wiki /Dulfy /Guild anything that someone says that could prove helpful before you just try to do it.

Best advice so far… that includes what you probably see here.

Khyan.7039:

My solo Mai Trin scale 100 as condi necromancer say hello gracefully to you.

Problem is – outside of Trin reaper is not that useful.

Rednik.3809:

Khyan.7039:

My solo Mai Trin scale 100 as condi necromancer say hello gracefully to you.

Problem is – outside of Trin reaper is not that useful.

lol what ?

Reaper is good in every fractal encounter there is.

Rednik.3809:

Khyan.7039:

My solo Mai Trin scale 100 as condi necromancer say hello gracefully to you.

Problem is – outside of Trin reaper is not that useful.

Perhaps that’s the reason why I am seeing an increased amount of reapers in T4 fractals? Being not useful gets more usage. Sounds strange…

SleepingDragon.1596:

Perhaps that’s the reason why I am seeing an increased amount of reapers in T4 fractals? Being not useful gets more usage. Sounds strange…

Because reaper is probably easiest class to play in T4. You can facetank literally everything, minions can make you immune to conditions, you can trait for additional healing as 10% from condi damage, and dps rotation is quite simple.

Rednik.3809:

SleepingDragon.1596:

Perhaps that’s the reason why I am seeing an increased amount of reapers in T4 fractals? Being not useful gets more usage. Sounds strange…

Because reaper is probably easiest class to play in T4. You can facetank literally everything, minions can make you immune to conditions, you can trait for additional healing as 10% from condi damage, and dps rotation is quite simple.

Still failing to see how any of this makes them useless outside of scale 100….

Care to elaborate ?

TexZero.7910:

Still failing to see how any of this makes them useless outside of scale 100….

Care to elaborate ?

Barely any group synergy. Lack of valuable buffs, not that great dps, conditions need time to ramp up. Reaper is easy to play, but outside of trin and 4 reaper+something buffing setup it’s not that great if you compare with classic rev+war+mesmer+2 tempest setup.

Rednik.3809:

TexZero.7910:

Still failing to see how any of this makes them useless outside of scale 100….

Care to elaborate ?

Barely any group synergy. Lack of valuable buffs, not that great dps, conditions need time to ramp up. Reaper is easy to play, but outside of trin and 4 reaper+something buffing setup it’s not that great if you compare with classic rev+war+mesmer+2 tempest setup.

We’re talking here about pugs, not organized groups with perfect setup and coordination. In that context, reaper is very good in higher fractals.

Rednik.3809:

TexZero.7910:

Still failing to see how any of this makes them useless outside of scale 100….

Care to elaborate ?

Barely any group synergy. Lack of valuable buffs, not that great dps, conditions need time to ramp up. Reaper is easy to play, but outside of trin and 4 reaper+something buffing setup it’s not that great if you compare with classic rev+war+mesmer+2 tempest setup.

We’re talking optimal setup and you’re still bringing a rev ?

Lets be real for a sec, no optimal 5 man needs a rev when the chrono can hit 100% boon duration by themselves freeing up that slot for another ele/theif/DH/or Reaper.

Also when we are talking DPS or Reaper comp compared to the one you listed where in T4 fractals condi builds don’t need the “ramp up time” you claim to break even. Power builds in those fractals are already ~23% less effective due to mob toughness values. Meaning if any builds aren’t pulling their weight its these as they are being mitigated at a far greater rate than condi’s.