Guild Wars 2

Was wondering if folks here have constructive tips for dealing with the new Kholer. I know his patterns well, know what his wind up looks like for his pull/spin, and know to deal with adds first. But all too often I’ve been a part of team wipes involving him. It’s just too easy to get distracted/camera blocked by the silver adds so you can’t see Kholer’s wind up or get stunned by the adds and sucumb to the spin with no stability left. Not to mention everything in that fight is shiny blue on shiny blue on shiny blue…sometimes it’s tough just to tell what the kitten is going on. If I can see the wind-up, the pull is an easy dodge, but the fight’s set up ensures you won’t always see the pull coming. A friend and I got caught by his pull once because he summoned adds, we spent a split second figuring out which to target, and in that split second he did his pull.

Even very good players I know say he’s not worth it, and should be skipped. But I can’t help but feel we must be missing something. I have my gripes with the fight the way it is, but constructive tips to take down this annoying kitten would be appreciated.

Kiting with ranged, and stand near the edges so when he does his big finishers he knocks you into the water below then you just get a free revive, run back up & kite some more. At least that’s the only way I’ve done it since the changes to AC & even then it took an hour really not worth it for just the crappy chest & a bit of karma & gold.

Face tank and dodge his pull and spin. His moves hurt a lot less than before. Also make sure to group his adds near him so they just die to AoE.

At least this always is what works for me and takes just a few minutes. Running around having him chase you spreads everyone out and his adds become a problem and people will atart wiling one by one.

He is actually fairly easy. Most parties wipe during the pull.

The easiest way to counter that in a PUG is to have a Guardian use “Stand Your Ground”. The Stability stops him from being able to pull anyone in. So even if someone missed dodging it, it keeps them from going down. And then make sure you take the adds out ASAP. Especially the Necro during his 3rd summon.

If you’ve got the right group for it you just all just gather in close and do big bezerker aoe and mash Kohler and his adds. When you’re close you can spot the animation much more easily for dodging the pull. You can apply group buffs and cures more easily. The adds can be controlled since they’re all together and won’t live long. You lose all the problems with line of sight and movement.

If you have trouble seeing his pull, get your stunbreakers and use them as soon as you get pulled. If your group is good enough you can simply ignore adds and focus Kholer down.

RagingDragon.9475:

He is actually fairly easy. Most parties wipe during the pull.

The easiest way to counter that in a PUG is to have a Guardian use “Stand Your Ground”. The Stability stops him from being able to pull anyone in. So even if someone missed dodging it, it keeps them from going down. And then make sure you take the adds out ASAP. Especially the Necro during his 3rd summon.

This. Also aegis blocks it I think

Quick Mouse.7635:

This. Also aegis blocks it I think

Indeed.. Also, blinding him on the pull (dangerous timing though) will make them fail..

Tribio.8531:

Quick Mouse.7635:

This. Also aegis blocks it I think

Indeed.. Also, blinding him on the pull (dangerous timing though) will make them fail..

He’s got Unshakeable. 10% Blind effectiveness.

Bring a Mesmer, pretty sure Feedback cools down faster than his pulls. All his pulls are reflected, and your teammates don’t get wasted by his spin2win.

Ah, Kholer, my Kholer. Newbsbane. People still struggle with his awesomeness, it’s amazing.
Try to melee him. Yes, have your tank warrior with sword/shield and 5 sigils (/sigh) in your team melee him, so adds ball up. AoE fest, win. Well, if you don’t get pulled and your a** spinned to death.
Want to be babysat? Go ahead and bring a guardian with SyG, WoR and Hallowed Ground. °
But he’ll get you anyway. Count me on dat.

° stability and reflects negate the pull, but he’ll still do damage to you if you melee him and don’t dodge. So… yeah. Faceplant and “tank”, he’s going to like it. A lot.

Da Sonic.6521:

Bring a Mesmer, pretty sure Feedback cools down faster than his pulls. All his pulls are reflected, and your teammates don’t get wasted by his spin2win.

Since the pull timer was random last time I checked, cd is probably not as fast. That said, he’s real easy no matter the class.

You basicly got 4 options – dodge, aegis, stability or block. All classes can dodge.

My favorite tactic as a Warrior on Kholer is simply to equip the shield and facetank him.

Feedback is HIGHLY effective against Kholer’s pull. It reflects every single one and that’s enough to eat through defiance and knock him down. What’s even better is, because he’s knocked down, he won’t do the spin afterwards. The con is Feedback will only be up every other pull if it’s not traited. Even if it is, it may not be up for every pull.

Another bonus for being with a mesmer is, if you stand behind their illusions, you won’t be pulled. You have to be directly behind LoS-wise but I have used this trick and can vouch that it works.

Crossplay.2067:

Another bonus for being with a mesmer is, if you stand behind their illusions, you won’t be pulled. You have to be directly behind LoS-wise but I have used this trick and can vouch that it works.

Does this work with other team mates, as I could see absolute hilarity ensue as every team mate spends the entire battle trying to get another team mate between them and Kholer.

Ratty.5176:

Does this work with other team mates, as I could see absolute hilarity ensue as every team mate spends the entire battle trying to get another team mate between them and Kholer.

It might. Months ago, I didn’t know how great Feedback was and I was insistent on being a signet mesmer… Good times! i use to hide behind soldier classes while calling them meatshields. I don’t recall getting pulled a lot.

Don’t get pulled in. If no more than one person gets pulled in per pull it should go fine. Even two players pulled in should be ok. Kill the adds until he is at about 10% health then just focus him.

Dodge of course.
Los the pull
Ele – mist form, earth shield thingy, the bubble that blocks attacks
Thief – smoke screen
Warrior – stability, immune to pain