Guild Wars 2

Hey!

Just an easy question for anyone who knows about:

Is the troll, that spawns randomly during the whole dungeon, ment to be able to actually fight againts the other bosses and kill them or this is know as exploit?

As I have now encountered people who say it works like it should and that I should always use environment for my benefit.

As far as I know it is not an exploit. Your party can get the Troll and Lt. Kholer to kill each other if they want but in my experience, most of the time it’s not worth the effort of trying to lure them to the right spot.

The troll and Kholer appear pretty close to each other. I can say from personal experience that it makes the battle a lot easier. The troll will usually defeat Kholer, and will be left with just a little bit of health; an easy target for your team to take down. It will make the battle a lot easier, and prevent a lot of deaths on your team.

Ive yet to meet the troll in Explore mode so thats really not an option for me, lol. Although I dont think I would do it anyways, too much risk.

There’s not much risk involved. The biggest threat is Kholer himself, who is a pretty tough opponent. You might as well try and pull the Troll, since he is easy to pull. It really makes everything a lot easier if you are lucky enough for him to spawn.

Kholer has one move that does any damage worth worrying about, and he telegraphs it for like 4 seconds before. Easy. The risk comes from splitting your attention between 2 bosses and being unale to focus, inexperienced groups will not take well to that.

From my experience the troll always spawns, but has several different spawn locations. Some of them are pretty far from Kholer. But then, why not just skip both

In that case, I would say only pull the troll to Kholer if the troll happens to spawn nearby. I have seen the troll spawn in the same room as Kholer for example. But I don’t know where the other spawn spots are. So yes, definitely don’t try to pull any of the two through countless passages. Only pull them to each other if they happen to appear in the same room. Then you and your team can just stand safely behind a pillar and wait as the two kill each other.

OK. So atleast some people think this is ment to be like this. I for one don’t like when people use the Troll to kill Kholer and people even lure sometimes the Troll from far away just to kill Kholer.

Well… I’m OK with this, but how about if you use the Troll to fight againts any other bosses like in story mode you can pull the troll to “Lover’s Crypt” to kill the lovers or any other bosses near it’s spawn. (correct me if that’s impossible)

So could any Dev give a word about this so we could just keep reporting bugs like these or just live with them and use them as they are counted as environmental advantages?

I’ve actually only seen the troll in my 5 story mode attempts. Never have I seen it in explore mode and I’ve completed each path at least 1 time.

You pull kholer with ranged weapons to the troll and sit back with some popcorn. The troll will kill kholer and then you just kill the troll.

Did the chance to see the troll increase lately? Before this week I’ve never seen him before, and I’ve seen him 5 or so times over the last 7 days or so. I’m not to thrilled about him popping up near Kholer. I’d rather kill them both separately. But once on path 1 or 3 he spawned and killed a bunch of ghosts for us which was most welcome

To OP: It’s not an exploit.

Whether you want to avoid killing kholer or using the troll to fight him is your own choice.

Rozcinana, trust me when I say that if the troll does spawn near Kholer, getting them to fight each other really is like sitting back and eating popcorn. It really makes it all so much easier. The two kill each other, and then you kill the troll (who is near death at that point). Easy peasy.

Its not an exploit. The change of you having him there is not big. And its pretty hard to get to them to fight eachother. Most of the time you will get owned with them teaming up on you. But if you get it right it is quite funny to watch doh. Troll wins btw.

I’ve seen several mobs in open world PvE maps fight each other, sometimes on their own (poor rabbits ). This is pretty much the same thing, so it’s not an exploit.

Fittleluck.4307:

The troll doesn’t spawn in story mode. It’s a completely optional bonus event that has a chance to appear in all explorable paths. I personally think it’s fine to use the troll to kill Kohler. It has a ridiculously high HP pool for a level 35 dungeon and as Mad Queen Malafide said, having it fight Kohler will substantially reduce it, making it an easy 1s+chest.

Troll DOES spawn in story mode.

He spawned in the area where Eir is taking on the mini-boss. Troll came out and all 3 of them were tagging each other.

I dont recall the thread but a dev did state that skipping kholer or using the troll to fight are not exploits.

Troll doesn’t spawn all the time and trolls aren’t allies of ghostly humans;/

i’ve never had a problem luring the two together for the free waypoint and chest… until last night, when we managed a full team wipe (with a few other extra deaths) just pulling the kitten bosses together. really team this should not happen, unless you’re actually fighting the bosses together. if you’re spending all your resources on damage mitigation and looking for kholer’s pull nobody should die. we got wiped because of an inexperienced team and my own lack of communication.

but it’s certainly not an exploit. the troll has stupid amounts of HP, and i don’t think it give any kind of reward. i also think it’s been nerfed since launch since this thing use to OHKO me with alarming regularity, but maybe i’ve just improved since i haven’t been killed in a troll fight since. it’s not nearly as fun as kholer, and having it show up just adds minutes to the runtime for no real reason.

i’d like to see his DPS buffed, his HP nerfed, and some rewards put in place for his demise. at that point tho we’d need to get rid of the ability to make him fight kholer. even if the troll isn’t as “hard” as kholer (no pull/murder combo, telgraphed or not) he takes more time for less reward.

OK. Thanks for all about their thoughts. I believe now too that this is the way ArenaNet ment it to be played and it’s fine for me. I just wanted to know.

For now on, I just grap popcorn and watch the show