Guild Wars 2

Hi guys,

I’m casually levelling a warrior alt so that I can be more useful to my team. However I’m a semi-casual player so I don’t think I’ll get it to 80 until May. By then CoF P1 might be nerfed so that no one does it anymore.

So I’m asking the community if zerker warriors are useful outside CoF farming. I’m currently using my PVT Guardian for all other dungeons I do – are there situations where zerker warrior > PVT guardian?

Thanks for your advice.

If your knowledge of the dungeon and enemies is good enough and your skill is good enough yes you can. I run full zerk war everywhere NP.

I understand that. But for example I’d definitely bring my Guardian to FotM because of WoR and Shield of the Avenger. Cuts time with Harpies and really helps with Shaman. It doesn’t matter if I become very good at the dungeon with a glass cannon if the 4 other party members wipe from lava elementals.

So I guess my question is more whether there are dungeons where I’d be more ‘useful’ unloading boatloads of DPS compared to, say, aegis and boons and reflect/absorb skills.

When you already have a guardian.

most runs with zerkers outside of CoF are terrible if there’s more than 2 of them. even SE is suffering now, because the less Apt players are beginning to migrate to that after the AC change.

Been playing a half-zerker (Mostly Berserker with a few Knight pieces) in every dungeon and path in the game.

Axe+Shield (Shield block is a lifesaver).

Don’t want to sound elitist or brag, but I have been playing Warrior since launch and the key to success are

a) Player skill
b) Knowing the encounter and what you can and can’t do in that particular encounter

it really depends on the group make up as well as player skill, worse comes to worse just spec a bit more defensive and keep your zerker gear, I carry a zerker zet and a knight set and use wichever suits the the group make up the best

If your question, can i carry bad players easier on a guardian then a war? The answer is yes.

Zerker warriors runs fine everywhere. Did a lv62 fractal today with 2 and they did just fine — so did my berserker ele that had 4k less HP than them and cloth armor.

Yeah, we had a Guardian. But at that level the damage is so absurd that you’re better off just tunneling damage and CC on groups of mobs instead of trying to mitigate it, because even a Guardian won’t be able to tank for long.

Berserker or a mix of Knight+ Valkyrie is about the best stat set you can bring to any encounter because the longer you take to kill mobs the more likely you are to wipe.

This game has no real healer that can reset HP bars for long periods of time, so it’s not a game built around outlasting veterans that have more HP and armor than all of you and hit you for 1/3 of your HP. You just have to blow them up with burst and CC.

Just try and run a full soldier or toughness/condi build on high lv fractal and see how much less efficient it is.

The biggest mitigation you have in this game is called dodge and reflection. Especially dodge. With vigor on crit it will provide far more mitigated damage than anything else.

OK thanks guys. I think I’ll go ahead and level the alt. Maybe if the party I end up in already has a guardian, I can afford to go with a higher DPS option, and have some zerker/knight hybrid armour for a bit of extra toughness.

My main is a guardian, but i’ve been running with a full zerk warrior all kind of content, from fotm to arah all paths and i have no trouble doing so. You really need to know the class well enough and the mechanics that come with it. Also know the encounters so that you can prepare for what is about to come.

For dungeons, I don’t think that having zerker gear is always helpful. It really depends on your team. But when you go solo around the huge map, zerker gear is a total risk. I have a full zerker thief (if you think that zerker war has difficulty, I’m sure my situation is worse) and now working on a soldier gear, even the weaker mobs can kill me with a little effort

tldr – you can run full zerker on dungeons depending on your team, but I recommend having at least 2 or 3 pieces of soldier/knight armor if you like doing stuff outside dungeons

btw, I made a mistake before editing this now. I’m getting soldier armor because thieves are punished hard for the low hp pool and lack of condition removers. Knight set seems to work better on warriors than soldier

Zerk gear is flat out amazing for any class. Wars have the heavy armor,utility, and high dps to make the most of it. While first time dungeons might be a little rough in for zerk, after you know the mechanics/encounters the most you’ll need is dodge food. Just watch the videos on utube, learn the encounters, and full zerk speed runs are the way to go for any dungeons.

If you know the encounters good enough and if you’re good enough at dodging – sure(although you can only dodge so much), but if you’re (as you said) a semi-casual I don’t think zerker build would be the best choice for you, I’d suggest a half-zerk rather than a glass cannon. If you only want this for cof dps is only important for bosses and if you’re perfect at every other part it’s only the question of 1-3 minutes of difference betweekittenerker group and the one with more casual approach.

HELLruler.4820:

tldr – you can run full zerker on dungeons depending on your team, but I recommend having at least 2 or 3 pieces of soldier/knight armor if you like doing stuff outside dungeons

Does that mean that open world is harder than dungeons for zerker thieves?

i have bolth zerker warr and thief, my gf has ah knioght guardian and a warr.
op said: i’m a casual gamer.
then don’t waste money on berserker, specially on warrior, yu’ll always hear of ppl who did fotm 80 solo with a naked warrior. i did it and regret it.
i suppose we aree talking of a gs warrior, you’ll do 3 time at least more dps than a knight guardian, even in a very defensive setup.
i personally use 20 0 30 10 10 and 50/50 zerker/knight armor, zerker weap and 50/50 zerker/knight tinkrets, and hb hits for 14k in cof with all the buffs, this is tested in any dungeon path except arah p4 or high level fotm.
remember a ded zerker warrior do less dps than an alive bunker guardian!
this game isn’t for full-x steups is always the good alchemy that makes difference.
@haviz, dunno what is better for open world, they are both a pain, it takes double effort when you have to keep evading and cannot burst out your 1983098273k dps standing attack, oir when u get onshoted by risen in orr.
for dungeon imho bsk thief is easyer due to all those dodge, swiftnes on dogdge, regenerate endurance on dodge stuff.
but hell if you wanna farm you kitten out in cof zerker warr rules!!
no wanna say ppl lies on what they do, but is fashonablew nowdays to say “oh i’m so pro, i run zerker warior and i soloed lupicus”
surely someone did this, but more likely the one telling you these bullkitten is liyng!

cheers ppl!

You never ever get 1 shot from any risen or any enemy in open world pve, unless its a champ or something. And believe me when i say this, i have a full zerk war and mesmer. And by full zerk i mean i dont have anything but berserker items on me, from armor to trinkets and weapons plus ruby orbs.

So saying you get 1 shot in open world by mobs is plain bs.

I’m not saying this is the only way to go and i dont have anything against people that use all kind of gear (except mf guys, they tend to be useless). But you have to consider that the current meta game is designed in such a way that dps is better than defense. You can’t mitigate all the damage forever so its better to kill faster than to try and tank it.

If the OP says its a casual player of GW2, maybe its better to just stick with the class that he understands and likes. I farmed cof with my guardian just as fine as with my warrior or mesmer. It all depends on the group you’re in.

lcpdragonslayer.7895:

Hi guys,

I’m casually levelling a warrior alt so that I can be more useful to my team. However I’m a semi-casual player so I don’t think I’ll get it to 80 until May. By then CoF P1 might be nerfed so that no one does it anymore.

So I’m asking the community if zerker warriors are useful outside CoF farming. I’m currently using my PVT Guardian for all other dungeons I do – are there situations where zerker warrior > PVT guardian?

Thanks for your advice.

I use zerk warrior for everything, even full melee lupi in <30 min arah explore runs with 0 wipes and repair bill. Anything is viable anywhere if you know how to play the class and know the mechanics.

Warriors are good for one thing and excel at it IF THE PLAYER IS GOOD aka not dying every 20 seconds. That is killing stuff. Weapon rotation is key for dps output. If you see a warrior that never rotates their weapon, they are not making full use of their dps so don’t bother if you don’t like to swap weapons.

If you don’t like NEEDING to spend the time to learn mechanics very well and stomping on everything, then don’t play a warrior. You’ll just die a lot and give us war zerkers a bad name that’s already going around with their full CoF skin that can’t live in other dungeons. I hope they don’t change CoF so those players never leave that dungeon.

lcpdragonslayer.7895:

Hi guys,

I’m casually levelling a warrior alt so that I can be more useful to my team. However I’m a semi-casual player so I don’t think I’ll get it to 80 until May. By then CoF P1 might be nerfed so that no one does it anymore.

So I’m asking the community if zerker warriors are useful outside CoF farming. I’m currently using my PVT Guardian for all other dungeons I do – are there situations where zerker warrior > PVT guardian?

Thanks for your advice.

PVT in PvE is for leeches.