Guild Wars 2

I am aware that there have been multiple posts about these issues already but i want to create some extra awareness and hope it gets trough to the devs, I also need some place to vent and none of my guildies are online :p.
You will find the party kick that drove me over the edge and complied me to make a post about this below. There is a TLDR where i address all my issues with the current system and some solutions i could think of.
I’m not hating on the so called dungeon ‘elitists’ that want to clear as fast as possible in full zerk gear. If you clearly stated what you wanted in your party imo you can kick anyone that does not fill that profile at the start of the dungeon.

Just now I’ve been kicked from a lvl 19 fractal run (my personal lvl is 39). My party was inexperienced, they struggled at the arms in the colossus fractal and the pressure plates at dredge. I wasn’t acting toxic or high and mighty, you can argue that objectively it wasn’t so and it only seemed to me that way, however I only typed instructions or asked them to stop if they did something wrong (like cc the boss at the ocean fractal when it’s moving towards one of the electrified cages). At some point 1 guy said: ‘remember we’ll LP you’, i have no idea of what that means but they were all from the same French server and some were in the same guild so i was starting to get concerned they would kick me at the end, I asked them in party chat if they were planning on doing so and that if they were i would leave before investing any more time without getting a reward. They assured me they wouldn’t and I carried on, 2 hours in and at the last fractal they kicked me. The chat log disappeared but 1 of them used the /bow emote at the colossus so i was able to track him down and whispered that he was reported. He told me he did not vote on the kick, eventually 1 of the guys who did kick me contacted me. Upon asking them why they kicked me the answer was: ‘Because you don’t know how to play and you speak too much’. image of the conversation after the kick: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kHqjHA5l.jpg?1[/IMG] (black is the guy i managed to contact first, red is the one who started the kick).
When I reported them I noticed there were only a few options available, none of which i felt were appropriate for my case. I’m a bit disappointed that there was no separate text box available where i could explain why i reported them.

TLDR
- Some whining about getting kicked during a fractal run
- Erasing chat helps the abusers, most of the time you don’t remember their user name so it’s impossible to report them.
- 2 friends that play together can vote kick anybody they don’t like from a party of 5 people. You can argue that it’s 50% of the available votes, however it seems to me that if either one of them doesn’t like you the other one will likely aid in the kick. Imo they have to increase the amount of votes needed or add a ‘do not kick’ vote option that can cancel one of the ‘kick’ votes so the other party members that don’t want to kick you can influence the process
- The report feature is too limiting, add more options or add the ‘none of the above’ option. I would like to see a text box where the player filing the report can explain the situation.

I sincerely hope that these issues will be addressed in the future. This kind of abuse has been around for a long time for a variety of reasons and it’s not the first time that i’m a victim.

a t s e.9614:

This is the PUG world my friend, anything can happen at any time . Be prepared

PUG lyfe, yo.

Also, OP, it sucks. I know.

One time a guy destroyed my instance because I insisted he dye his armor pink. (Thanks for the idea, dungeon regular sexies ) no regrets there.

a t s e.9614:

There’s already a response from anet about kicking , I dont know where it is but they said if you got kicked for NO reason , you can report for scamm but if there was some trouble between you and the other people they cant do anything. You may even get banned for abusing the report feature.

Well at least now i know where to file my report. Their response about kicking is not sufficient however, it’s nearly impossible to report a party after getting kicked because the chat is erased and their names are nowhere to be found.

LittleLepton.8915:

PUG lyfe, yo.

Also, OP, it sucks. I know.

One time a guy destroyed my instance because I insisted he dye his armor pink. (Thanks for the idea, dungeon regular sexies ) no regrets there.

<3 I think I’m starting to love you <3 Though do it when you have a few friends with you, it’s funnier and I don’t want a lady like you to get hurt in the process of pugging. I might feel responsible for dat.

Dear Littlefinger, I know you want encouraging responses as in “contact the support, they will get banned you know!”, maybe you ever dream of a red post even though you won’t admit it, but… I don’t think this is what you need. Also not my style.
Look. It sucks, getting kicked is one of the most annoying things that can happen to you in an online game. Here’s how things are.
You’re not going to get a red post unless a – late – Christmas miracle happens.
Sure, go ahead and report them, why not. If you’re hoping they’ll be banned, though, you’re in for a surprise. Maybe they’ll check their chatlogs and put a “warning” on their accounts and keep an eye on them, looking for other infractions of the code of conduct. Maybe. I doubt it.
You’re not going to “raise more awareness” than the other 200 posts before yours did. Assuming they check this forum section, they’re already aware it isn’t a perfect system, but this is what we have at the moment and there’s no word on changing it. Your suggestions were raised more than 200 times already, months ago, and not everyone agrees with the 2vote system being broken. For instance, I don’t.
To sum it up, you’re doing this to vent your frustration, and it’s fine. I’ll give you a pat on the back and wish you good luck – even though I doubt you weren’t annoying in any way to them…
This is the most you can get from me or from anyone else.

deSade.9437:

LittleLepton.8915:

PUG lyfe, yo.

Also, OP, it sucks. I know.

One time a guy destroyed my instance because I insisted he dye his armor pink. (Thanks for the idea, dungeon regular sexies ) no regrets there.

<3 I think I’m starting to love you <3 Though do it when you have a few friends with you, it’s funnier and I don’t want a lady like you to get hurt in the process of pugging. I might feel responsible for dat.

No worries ;D I had 2 guildies with me. We all giggled. But we were in all pink!

deSade.9437:

LittleLepton.8915:

PUG lyfe, yo.

Also, OP, it sucks. I know.

One time a guy destroyed my instance because I insisted he dye his armor pink. (Thanks for the idea, dungeon regular sexies ) no regrets there.

<3 I think I’m starting to love you <3 Though do it when you have a few friends with you, it’s funnier and I don’t want a lady like you to get hurt in the process of pugging. I might feel responsible for dat.

Dear Littlefinger, I know you want encouraging responses as in “contact the support, they will get banned you know!”, maybe you ever dream of a red post even though you won’t admit it, but… I don’t think this is what you need. Also not my style.
Look. It sucks, getting kicked is one of the most annoying things that can happen to you in an online game. Here’s how things are.
You’re not going to get a red post unless a – late – Christmas miracle happens.
Sure, go ahead and report them, why not. If you’re hoping they’ll be banned, though, you’re in for a surprise. Maybe they’ll check their chatlogs and put a “warning” on their accounts and keep an eye on them, looking for other infractions of the code of conduct. Maybe. I doubt it.
You’re not going to “raise more awareness” than the other 200 posts before yours did. Assuming they check this forum section, they’re already aware it isn’t a perfect system, but this is what we have at the moment and there’s no word on changing it. Your suggestions were raised more than 200 times already, months ago, and not everyone agrees with the 2vote system being broken. For instance, I don’t.
To sum it up, you’re doing this to vent your frustration, and it’s fine. I’ll give you a pat on the back and wish you good luck – even though I doubt you weren’t annoying in any way to them…
This is the most you can get from me or from anyone else.

I am not naive. I know they will not get banned, they’ll get flagged if i’m lucky. I read the forums on a regular basis so i am aware having someone from anet read this post, let alone post a reply is nothing short of a miracle.

As for the suggestions, well i’m only brainstorming/recycling other people’s opinions, you’re free to disagree. However I do believe changing one of those things will make a change for the better. Improving the reporting feature especially would have a huge impact when anet finally decides to take the vote kick issue more seriously.

As i stated before i do want to vent and i am looking for some support. But in addition i want to talk about a serious issue that i feel is being neglected. The fact that there are 200 other posts complaining about this only proves my point, it doesn’t make my post any less valid. I’d rather keep on complaining until somebody realizes we need to have a serious talk about this instead of ‘report them for scamming’ and not doing anything because ‘there are 200 other posts like mine and at the moment there’s no word on changing this’.

Ahhh, idealists. Well, do go on then.