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Posted by: GhostBro.9253

GhostBro.9253

I just got kicked from a story dungeon group for actually stopping to watch a cut scene.
That is incredibly infuriating as a new player and someone genuinely interested in learning about the story.
Is this a regular thing I have to worry about? I by no means think it is something that will change, but the behavior I find incredibly unbecoming from what I have learned to expect from GW2 players.

The cut scene wasn’t particularly long either, and waiting 30s till I caught up seems incredibly reasonable to me. From what I observed most trash can easily be 4 manned.
I am very disappointed in the overall toxic behavior that seems incredibly unjustified, in such a casual experience no less. The fact that I am so miffed about it blows my mind, because it’s such a ridiculous concept, enjoying content in a game as it was intended… is kickable?

In no game have I ever experienced such a childish lashing out, I am disappointed. I have no doubt this post will be passed and ignored, as it is literally me complaining to find relief from such an inane act. Sadly I can imagine no other outlet for something completely out of my control. And maybe by some off chance encourage someone not to vote kick someone for something so… pathetic.

TL;DR
Got kicked for wanting to watch a cut scene, mad as a Charr which been told he has a condition that forces him to be vegetarian.

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Posted by: AdaephonDelat.3890

AdaephonDelat.3890

Yeah it happens. Best thing would be make your own group and either state in the LFG or when people join that it’s your first time through and you’re going to watch the cutscenes. Or run with a guild group.

Are you on NA or EU? I’m happy to take you through some story dungeons if you want.

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Posted by: tfcgeneralkmk.9508

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what was the party descirption in LFG if it wasn’t new players welcome or something like that it was not a good pick for someone to want to watch the cutscene in

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Posted by: Many.8419

Many.8419

You got kicked. Oh my god what a disaster.
Problem is not players or lfg. Problem is arena net destroyed instance owner so you are never safe from being kicked. Dunno who they wanted to punish but as always nothing good came from it.

P.S. what was lfg description for this party?

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Posted by: JoshuaRAWR.4653

JoshuaRAWR.4653

When people are running dungeons for the 100th time, they don’t want to have to wait on people watching the cutscenes for the first time, it slows down 4 other people who just want to do the dungeon and get the rewards at the end.

The only thing you can (And should do) is start your own group and state that you will be watching the cutscenes, then you’ll be grouped together with likeminded individuals.

Sounds like you joined a group asking for experienced players, and by stopping to watch the cutscenes, you showed that you were infact, not experienced.

You need to realise that most people doing dungeons nowadays are people who have been running them for 2 years, they don’t care about the story attached to them anymore, they just want the rewards and they’re used to always skipping the cutscenes.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

I’ve never actually watched the cutscenes in any dungeon (other than the unbelievably long unskippable cutscenes in Twilight Arbor Aether path), primarily because I know the pressure is there to skip them so the group can hurry up and beat the cash piñata.

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

You got kicked. Oh my god what a disaster.
Problem is not players or lfg. Problem is arena net destroyed instance owner so you are never safe from being kicked. Dunno who they wanted to punish but as always nothing good came from it.

P.S. what was lfg description for this party?

The instance owner fix was necessary because previously if the instance owner crashed, lagged out and couldn’t return in time or simply left, the whole group was kicked from the instance. It’s not a “punishment” it’s a fix that should have been done that way from the beginning.

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Posted by: Many.8419

Many.8419

So now even if person opens instance he can be kicked by strangers for no reason, instances can be stolen, ppl can be harassed in many many ways.

This is not fix, this is a disaster. If they wanted to fix instance after crash they should have adjust the system to keep logged off account in party for 30 minutes or longer instead of autokick in 10 minutes.

I am more than sure because of this change legit players are more punished than griefers or dc’ed parties

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

Nobody kicks people for no reason, there is always a reason. If 3 people voted for kicking you, well… either you did something or 3 people actually wanted to steal your instance and you can still report them if that actually happened.

And no, legit players are not punished by this, dungeon sellers are far more likely to be affected by it.

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Posted by: Many.8419

Many.8419

legit part of 2 ppl wanting to do a path can be kicked by other 3 ppl for every bullkitten like wrong profession, level, gear etc even though the first 2 were creating a lfg post. yes, legit players are punished.

btw I’ve never seen anyone banned for stealing instances and even ppl recorded doing this are still running in LA spreading joy.

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Posted by: tacticalevilnoodlefox.5694

tacticalevilnoodlefox.5694

I’ll tell you right now you’re not gonna get much help on the forums when it comes to issues with dungeons and the community surrounding them.

Even the better people of the community are far to quick to circle the wagons for any kind of healthy introspection and you’ll either get a range of responses from people telling you how aweful and toxic this community is (which isn’t fully true there are some good and helpful people and by far and large my experience with dungeons personally has been mostly positive) or telling you there’s nothing wrong with the community at all and it has to be all your fault for daring to watch cut scenes in the story dungeon (not explorable, story). Which also, is not fully true (my experience isn’t everyones and there are enough complaints of people being kicked for frivilous or non reasons that I have trouble seeing how it isn’t a problem).

Your best bet are to either just prepare yourself to be kicked now and again (because making your own LFG isn’t going to guarantee anything no matter how specific you are in the description) or find a good guild or group of friends to run dungeons with.

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Posted by: winterchillz.2564

winterchillz.2564

Ghost, I’m on EU. If you are too, feel free to add me and whisper me when you want to run some dungeon, I will happily let you watch all the cutscenes and answer any additional questions that you might have in case I know the answer.

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Posted by: Rauderi.8706

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In no game have I ever experienced such a childish lashing out, I am disappointed. I have no doubt this post will be passed and ignored, as it is literally me complaining to find relief from such an inane act.

FFXIV’s local crowd is just as bad, actually. They ruined my end-game dungeon experience pretty swiftly by charging ahead for speed runs.

Sorry that had to happen with you. The advice above about making “story run/cutscenes” LFGs should get you through the dungeons without those problems.

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Posted by: Many.8419

Many.8419

This is why I don’t like things like dungeons and fractals, in any game. It’s not the content, it’s those people. And while I rationally know not everyone is like that, in fact, odds are the vast majority aren’t like that, those experiences are so sour they far outweigh the positive experiences over time, to the point where it’s more about deciding whether it’s worth the risk to get the mall-cop-by-day-special-forces-wanna-be-type-a-by-night-and-weekend type as my party leader, yelling at everyone, kicking people, blaming tanks and healers in trinity based games (always seems that guy is a DPS guy, right?).

It’s like this pair of scissors I just bought my dad … (what they … ?)

Got them from Amazon, but it wasn’t coming from the american worker labor abuse local staging warehouse, it was a third party seller, so you can’t deal easily with Amazon. They were supposed to be here 4 days ago. Tracking the number, the seller used DHL to get it to the USPS here in town, and that is the last record of it. I submitted a “where’s my stuff” form with USPS online (because I really don’t want to call someone), and got a reply email: “Call ‘Steve’ at this number.”

Oy.

So I call the number, ask for Steve. “Uh, there’s like no Steve here any more man.” I explain I got an automated form telling me to call Steve. “Oh, uh wait that Steve. Sorry, there’s two Steve’s and like one of them left, that’s why I was confused, you should call back when he’s like back from lunch in a half hour.” I guess figuring that 2-1=0? I don’t know.

So now, do I call new-Steve at this point, or just pay another $4.75 and try again, not having to talk to new-Steve, which will invariably turn into a really bad experience?

See? Scissors + new-Steve = Dungeons. All makes perfect sense.

the same toxic attitude you can find on tequatl zerg or in pvp; the amount profanity is ridiculous when random ppl need to work together but it has nothing to do with dungeons. whole game is experiencing this.

The thing is, when you enter any content with random ppl you are choosing to face random situations. if you are oversensitive, dont play with pugs.

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Posted by: Andred.1087

Andred.1087

When people are running dungeons for the 100th time, they don’t want to have to wait on people watching the cutscenes for the first time

If they’re doing it for the 100th time, why the hell are they doing story mode? There’s no reason for this.

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

I could understand this if it were an advertised speedrun of an explorable path but kicking from STORY mode for watching a cutscene ?

That is ridiculous. Sorrry you ran into this OP. Hope you have better luck next time.

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Posted by: zombyturtle.5980

zombyturtle.5980

Did they ask you more than once to stop watching cutscenes?

If not yeah im with you they are jerks. Just make your own group saying ‘watching cut scenes’ and you will have no problem.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

As other people have said it’s basically a conflict between what you wanted to do (experience the story) and what they wanted to do (get their rewards ASAP). Neither approach is strictly wrong but they don’t mesh well.

If you have a particular approach in mind for a dungeon it’s a good idea to make sure that’s clear at the beginning, even if it’s something you think should go without saying like watching cut scenes in story mode. Ideally ask your guild or make your own group in the LFG tool and state what you want to do in the description.

It’s also a good idea to let people know if it’s your first time doing a dungeon so they can warn you about things like extremely hard hitting bosses or parts they might be planning to skip.

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Posted by: JoshuaRAWR.4653

JoshuaRAWR.4653

When people are running dungeons for the 100th time, they don’t want to have to wait on people watching the cutscenes for the first time

If they’re doing it for the 100th time, why the hell are they doing story mode? There’s no reason for this.

I apologize, i didn’t realise the OP was talking about being kicked from a story dungeon.

If that is the case however though, this was probably a one off encounter and hardly needed a thread made for it.

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Posted by: Endless Soul.5178

Endless Soul.5178

This is why I don’t like things like dungeons and fractals, in any game. It’s not the content, it’s those people. And while I rationally know not everyone is like that, in fact, odds are the vast majority aren’t like that, those experiences are so sour they far outweigh the positive experiences over time, to the point where it’s more about deciding whether it’s worth the risk to get the mall-cop-by-day-special-forces-wanna-be-type-a-by-night-and-weekend type as my party leader, yelling at everyone, kicking people, blaming tanks and healers in trinity based games (always seems that guy is a DPS guy, right?).

It’s like this pair of scissors I just bought my dad … (what they … ?)

Got them from Amazon, but it wasn’t coming from the american worker labor abuse local staging warehouse, it was a third party seller, so you can’t deal easily with Amazon. They were supposed to be here 4 days ago. Tracking the number, the seller used DHL to get it to the USPS here in town, and that is the last record of it. I submitted a “where’s my stuff” form with USPS online (because I really don’t want to call someone), and got a reply email: “Call ‘Steve’ at this number.”

Oy.

So I call the number, ask for Steve. “Uh, there’s like no Steve here any more man.” I explain I got an automated form telling me to call Steve. “Oh, uh wait that Steve. Sorry, there’s two Steve’s and like one of them left, that’s why I was confused, you should call back when he’s like back from lunch in a half hour.” I guess figuring that 2-1=0? I don’t know.

So now, do I call new-Steve at this point, or just pay another $4.75 and try again, not having to talk to new-Steve, which will invariably turn into a really bad experience?

See? Scissors + new-Steve = Dungeons. All makes perfect sense.

Yep, I’ve met enough new-Steves in my gaming life that I pretty much just play solo unless I’m in a group of friends. A lot less headaches, high school drama, and disappointment that way.

Even in Guild Wars 1 I still watch the cutscenes.

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Posted by: Nutjob.9021

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If the party description said “speed run”, I don’t blame them for kicking.

Also, stopping to watch the cutscene pretty much says, “I’ve never been here before and I probably don’t have the gear/build to do anything but slow down the party and let them carry me instead of carrying my own weight.” or “I’ve been here before and know what I am doing, but I like to make everyone else wait.”

If you want to enjoy the cutscenes, do it with buddies in Team Speak or look them up on YouTube or clear it with the party first in chat.

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Posted by: Garambola.2461

Garambola.2461

G’grief. I am not a dungeon expert, but unless I am extremely busy, I will volunteer as a member of the party to the story dungeons. Well, busy or needing to sleep.

And either region is fine.

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Posted by: mtpelion.4562

mtpelion.4562

If the party description said “speed run”, I don’t blame them for kicking.

Also, stopping to watch the cutscene pretty much says, “I’ve never been here before and I probably don’t have the gear/build to do anything but slow down the party and let them carry me instead of carrying my own weight.” or “I’ve been here before and know what I am doing, but I like to make everyone else wait.”

If you want to enjoy the cutscenes, do it with buddies in Team Speak or look them up on YouTube or clear it with the party first in chat.

You don’t see very many Story Mode speed runs…
Actually, you don’t see many LFG speed runs at all since actual speed runners don’t PUG.

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

rhapsody.3615

Sorry that happened to you. In the future, if you want your dungeon run to be anything but “ZERK OR GTFO SPEED RUN,” you need to make your own lfg with a small notation, like “first time story, WATCHING CUTSCENES,” or “newbies/all welcome.” Just listing the path itself usually works out fine, as people who join aren’t looking for anything in particular, they just want to run the dungeon… but even then sometimes I come across some jerk who thinks they’re running the show (and when they get testy I tell them they are welcome to leave and be replaced at any time). And always, always reiterate your intent to watch cutscenes/have non-80’s or newbies before the dungeon starts. Sometimes people forget to read what they’re joining.

Kind of pathetic to kick someone in story for watching a cutscene though.

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

In no game have I ever experienced such a childish lashing out, I am disappointed. I have no doubt this post will be passed and ignored, as it is literally me complaining to find relief from such an inane act.

FFXIV’s local crowd is just as bad, actually. They ruined my end-game dungeon experience pretty swiftly by charging ahead for speed runs.

Sorry that had to happen with you. The advice above about making “story run/cutscenes” LFGs should get you through the dungeons without those problems.

at least in FFXIV, they ll just leave you behind, not kick you. Also, at least you can watch the cutscenes in your inn at your convienience.

Anyhow, the culture here is way too kick focused. Last time a thread like this popped up they villified the person who got kicked, kind of like some people are doing here.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

In no game have I ever experienced such a childish lashing out, I am disappointed. I have no doubt this post will be passed and ignored, as it is literally me complaining to find relief from such an inane act.

FFXIV’s local crowd is just as bad, actually. They ruined my end-game dungeon experience pretty swiftly by charging ahead for speed runs.

Sorry that had to happen with you. The advice above about making “story run/cutscenes” LFGs should get you through the dungeons without those problems.

at least in FFXIV, they ll just leave you behind, not kick you. Also, at least you can watch the cutscenes in your inn at your convienience.

Anyhow, the culture here is way too kick focused. Last time a thread like this popped up they villified the person who got kicked, kind of like some people are doing here.

To be fair to the people in that thread the OP said that he had been asked to not watch the cutscenes, but the OP continued to do so. We got on him for that, but also got on the kickers for waiting until the end to kick him for it.

And story dungeons may be done quickly by people on alts or alt accounts trying to get their alts to be able to open up explorable dungeons. Those players may not wish to watch the cutscenes again. Since explorable dungeon opening is character bound not account bound.

As to this thread, if the LFG was properly written to indicate that it was likely a speed run and the other party members asked him at the first cutscene to not watch it and kicked him at the second cutscene that he watched, then the OP is at fault. If any part of the previous is false, then more/most/all of the blame would fall on the party (for not writing the LFG correctly, or not asking, or griefing for waiting to kick) depending on what parts are true vs false.

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Posted by: DonQuack.9025

DonQuack.9025

Crap happens bro. I joined in a kick todayfor a cs watcher in story mode cm.
Was funny. 200ap lvl43 was chaining story modes to level up so can start explorable and this guy kept watching the cs’s. Literally the whole dungeon was full of rage. Pls skip. Skp. omg For reals? Is he serious?

Makes me wonder if he had chat up, spoke english, or just oblivious.

Now if they had noticed what I did they probably would have kicked him earlier but they kicked at end. The CM story ending cutscene is literally longer than kuch kuch hota hai.

What was he doing? Was ranger with bow. But never actually targeted anything the whole dungeon. just happily fired into the ground.

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

Crap happens bro. I joined in a kick todayfor a cs watcher in story mode cm.
Was funny. 200ap lvl43 was chaining story modes to level up so can start explorable and this guy kept watching the cs’s. Literally the whole dungeon was full of rage. Pls skip. Skp. omg For reals? Is he serious?

Makes me wonder if he had chat up, spoke english, or just oblivious.

Now if they had noticed what I did they probably would have kicked him earlier but they kicked at end. The CM story ending cutscene is literally longer than kuch kuch hota hai.

What was he doing? Was ranger with bow. But never actually targeted anything the whole dungeon. just happily fired into the ground.

so its an experience farming thing eh?
sucks, implication is they cant give anything good for content they want people to be able to experience normally.

not sure why he would be chainingh story mode for experience though. dont dungeons gived fixed percentages of your TNL? couldnt he just have done the explorables of a lower level dungeon?

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Crap happens bro. I joined in a kick todayfor a cs watcher in story mode cm.
Was funny. 200ap lvl43 was chaining story modes to level up so can start explorable and this guy kept watching the cs’s. Literally the whole dungeon was full of rage. Pls skip. Skp. omg For reals? Is he serious?

Makes me wonder if he had chat up, spoke english, or just oblivious.

Now if they had noticed what I did they probably would have kicked him earlier but they kicked at end. The CM story ending cutscene is literally longer than kuch kuch hota hai.

What was he doing? Was ranger with bow. But never actually targeted anything the whole dungeon. just happily fired into the ground.

so its an experience farming thing eh?
sucks, implication is they cant give anything good for content they want people to be able to experience normally.

not sure why he would be chainingh story mode for experience though. dont dungeons gived fixed percentages of your TNL? couldnt he just have done the explorables of a lower level dungeon?

Story mode runners are probably more tolerant of his watching cutscenes and firing at the ground than those in explorable dungeons would be. Since more are new to dungeons than you would find in explorable dungeons.

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Posted by: Benson.9063

Benson.9063

I can understand your grief, and I wouldn’t kick someone for that, esp. in story mode, but I understand the kick too. Good news is that it is easily preventable. Like other people say, check the LFG description or make your own LFG so that people know you want to experience the story and cutscenes. But i don’t think you should even need to do that – most people i’ve encountered are very friendly or are in the minority of hte party. If you join a normal “CM STORY LF2M” or whatever it is, just make sure that you tell them at the beginning you want to watch the cutscenes. They will either be ok with it and you stay and enjoy, or they are not ok with it and you find a new party. I find it annoying sometimes because I’m impatient, but sometimes it’s annoying because, had i known someone was going to watch the cutscene, maybe I would have watched them too, rather than just wait there and twiddle my thumbs.

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Posted by: Casmurro.9046

Casmurro.9046

OP, you need to learn that the general gw2 community is not very nice, all that talk you hear about “gw2 have the nicest mmo community” is bullkitten. They give examples like “if you get downed in open world people will come and ress you”, that happens because the key you use to ress people is the same you use to pick up loot, so the players are conditioned like bots to just spam F on everything.

If you want to pug more dungeons you need to adapt to the pug way of doing stuff, pugs in general are very quick in kicking people, and our group system favours griefers by allowing the minority to pretty much steal everyone else’s progress with the vote kick system.

If you want to do things your way you need at least one friend in the group and start kicking everyone that joins and dont fit in your lfg description. Like, if you put a lfg for story mode watching cutscenes you need to kick everyone that just rushes ahead soloing the next event while the rest of the group lags behind watching the cutscene, and when you get to lvl 80 and tired of watching cutscenes you put lfg for speedruns and kick lower lvl pugs that join.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

Unless the LFG said that it was a “causal” or “watch all cutscenes” run, he’s being entirely selfish.

OP says he wants the other four players to carry him while he watches the “only 30 second” cutscenes. Only 30 seconds, sound ok, right? But wait, how many cutscenes are there per path? How long does it take to run an entire path? We’re actually talking about a significant proportion of time here.

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Posted by: rozcinana.7249

rozcinana.7249

Unless the LFG said that it was a “causal” or “watch all cutscenes” run, he’s being entirely selfish.

OP says he wants the other four players to carry him while he watches the “only 30 second” cutscenes. Only 30 seconds, sound ok, right? But wait, how many cutscenes are there per path? How long does it take to run an entire path? We’re actually talking about a significant proportion of time here.

All due respect, that seems like a pretty harsh view to take on someone wanting to watch the story cut scenes in a story mode dungeon. If you were specifically doing speed runs of explorable paths, then yes someone holding up a run to watch cut scenes unannounced is an “offense” but this isn’t a big deal.

As for the OP, getting kicked for something so silly sucks but the best lesson to learn here is always take a moment to share your intentions/status with the party if you haven’t already said so in your LFG post. People are less likely to get annoyed if they know you are new and/or plan to watch cut scenes, and the ones that have a bug up their butt about it can leave before the run starts.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

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As others already said, unless the LFG post specifies that “newbies” are welcome or that cutscenes will be watched, it’s generally best to assume that the party expects that cutscenes will be skipped to save time (since story paths are generally longer than exp paths). Thus, it’s always a good idea to make your intentions known before the path starts; that way they can go ahead and say if they’re OK with it or not (and that way you don’t waste your own time with a group that’s not on the same page as you).

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

Unless the LFG said that it was a “causal” or “watch all cutscenes” run, he’s being entirely selfish.

OP says he wants the other four players to carry him while he watches the “only 30 second” cutscenes. Only 30 seconds, sound ok, right? But wait, how many cutscenes are there per path? How long does it take to run an entire path? We’re actually talking about a significant proportion of time here.

All due respect, that seems like a pretty harsh view to take on someone wanting to watch the story cut scenes in a story mode dungeon. If you were specifically doing speed runs of explorable paths, then yes someone holding up a run to watch cut scenes unannounced is an “offense” but this isn’t a big deal.

As for the OP, getting kicked for something so silly sucks but the best lesson to learn here is always take a moment to share your intentions/status with the party if you haven’t already said so in your LFG post. People are less likely to get annoyed if they know you are new and/or plan to watch cut scenes, and the ones that have a bug up their butt about it can leave before the run starts.

Usually these posts just get the usual: " no new dungeons means people play for the gold only and want to be done as fast as possible, so make your own party with your playstyle preference announced," but this guy literally said he expected the rest of his party to 4-man while he watched the cutscenes.

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Posted by: rhapsody.3615

rhapsody.3615

Unless the LFG said that it was a “causal” or “watch all cutscenes” run, he’s being entirely selfish.

OP says he wants the other four players to carry him while he watches the “only 30 second” cutscenes. Only 30 seconds, sound ok, right? But wait, how many cutscenes are there per path? How long does it take to run an entire path? We’re actually talking about a significant proportion of time here.

All due respect, that seems like a pretty harsh view to take on someone wanting to watch the story cut scenes in a story mode dungeon. If you were specifically doing speed runs of explorable paths, then yes someone holding up a run to watch cut scenes unannounced is an “offense” but this isn’t a big deal.

As for the OP, getting kicked for something so silly sucks but the best lesson to learn here is always take a moment to share your intentions/status with the party if you haven’t already said so in your LFG post. People are less likely to get annoyed if they know you are new and/or plan to watch cut scenes, and the ones that have a bug up their butt about it can leave before the run starts.

Usually these posts just get the usual: " no new dungeons means people play for the gold only and want to be done as fast as possible, so make your own party with your playstyle preference announced," but this guy literally said he expected the rest of his party to 4-man while he watched the cutscenes.

I don’t think the OP “expected” the others to 4-man anything. I think the statement you’re commenting on was more of a “if they don’t want to wait for me to watch, they can easily charge ahead and I’ll catch up.”

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Posted by: GhostBro.9253

GhostBro.9253

To clarify a few things~

It was indeed labeled as “Story” in the description, nothing more. I saw a few with “80’s” only for example. I presumed from what I saw that the group I chose was appropriate for my story needs.

I told the party that I was new and would be watching cut-scenes, however they may not have noticed until I got to a particularly long cut-scene between Eir and Rytlock. Of which my kicking happened. I can understand them missing my words, if you’re on the grind you’re not going to be reading chat much.

I can say I came from this experience knowing some of the dungeon etiquette required in GW2. I can now expect more similar behaviors. I wont repeat anything I find negative of course. Since I have this non conformity quirk. (I play an Elementalist Charr and pretend that he doesn’t like to conform with Charr society, I find it incredibly amusing.)

I did have a flash of hindsight after making this thread. I was in a story dungeon before this, one that was more than halfway finished. At the final cut-scene a fellow actually initiated a kick on me, (pretty sure he was just kidding around) and expressing that my watching of the cut-scene is why he did it. I ignored it as someone just amusing their self.
Now after looking back, I think that may be why I got into the group to begin with. That someone may have been watching the same long cut-scene, resulting in their kick. And this fellow was unintentionally giving me a hint to what to expect.

The Party did not ask me to not watch cut-scenes, they were silent.
While it is selfish for me to expect them to wait during a cut-scene or to continue on without me, I felt it was reasonable considering the circumstances. I only wished to watch the scenes once. I Eventually found a group catering to my needs.

Also I must say, the use of “bullkitten” as an expletive is wonderfully adorable.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

To clarify a few things~

It was indeed labeled as “Story” in the description, nothing more. I saw a few with “80’s” only for example. I presumed from what I saw that the group I chose was appropriate for my story needs.

I told the party that I was new and would be watching cut-scenes, however they may not have noticed until I got to a particularly long cut-scene between Eir and Rytlock. Of which my kicking happened. I can understand them missing my words, if you’re on the grind you’re not going to be reading chat much.

I can say I came from this experience knowing some of the dungeon etiquette required in GW2. I can now expect more similar behaviors. I wont repeat anything I find negative of course. Since I have this non conformity quirk. (I play an Elementalist Charr and pretend that he doesn’t like to conform with Charr society, I find it incredibly amusing.)

I did have a flash of hindsight after making this thread. I was in a story dungeon before this, one that was more than halfway finished. At the final cut-scene a fellow actually initiated a kick on me, (pretty sure he was just kidding around) and expressing that my watching of the cut-scene is why he did it. I ignored it as someone just amusing their self.
Now after looking back, I think that may be why I got into the group to begin with. That someone may have been watching the same long cut-scene, resulting in their kick. And this fellow was unintentionally giving me a hint to what to expect.

The Party did not ask me to not watch cut-scenes, they were silent.
While it is selfish for me to expect them to wait during a cut-scene or to continue on without me, I felt it was reasonable considering the circumstances. I only wished to watch the scenes once. I Eventually found a group catering to my needs.

Also I must say, the use of “bullkitten” as an expletive is wonderfully adorable.

For future dungeons you want to do, YouTube does have the cutscenes. If you can’t find a group in a reasonable time that is tolerant to your watching them.

And it does sound like your group was completely in the blame if they didn’t even ask you to not watch anymore cut scenes and kicked you during the first cut scene you watched. Especially after you said in chat that you were going to watch them.

I am glad you found a group to play with that allowed you to watch the cut scenes.

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Posted by: Nikaido.3457

Nikaido.3457

When people are running dungeons for the 100th time, they don’t want to have to wait on people watching the cutscenes for the first time

If they’re doing it for the 100th time, why the hell are they doing story mode? There’s no reason for this.

A hundred times is obvious hyperbole, but a lot of people have ran story dungeons multiple times for cumulative reasons such as :
1/unlocking dungeons on alts
2/running it for friends/guildies (I’ve ran story dungeons I already did on current characters for other people, and other people did the same for me when I made a new alt)
3/bored after a dungeon tour
4/has sometimes been part of the daily

The last thing most people have on their mind after a few years of playing gw2 is to watch the kitten cutscenes. That’s even more so true for explorable, but it’s still valid for story modes. Unless you’re running with 4 other new players, chances are, no one wants to sit and watch them.

But even new players might not want to watch them either. I never bothered watching the cutscenes even when people were still willing to sit through them when I started playing, I just didn’t care to watch that cringe dialogue. GW2 is no Planescape Torment when it comes to game writing. When people were watching them I just alt tabbed and browsed the web.

- “No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”

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Posted by: CutePicsHunter.7430

CutePicsHunter.7430

Well, at least i hope you now understand that personal story is very boring and undistinguished, combine that with horrible design.

HoT is just a cash grab.
Almost nothing in this game will ever be fixed.
Anet fix things only if it might increase gemstore sales.

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Posted by: DonQuack.9025

DonQuack.9025

Crap happens bro. I joined in a kick todayfor a cs watcher in story mode cm.
Was funny. 200ap lvl43 was chaining story modes to level up so can start explorable and this guy kept watching the cs’s. Literally the whole dungeon was full of rage. Pls skip. Skp. omg For reals? Is he serious?

Makes me wonder if he had chat up, spoke english, or just oblivious.

Now if they had noticed what I did they probably would have kicked him earlier but they kicked at end. The CM story ending cutscene is literally longer than kuch kuch hota hai.

What was he doing? Was ranger with bow. But never actually targeted anything the whole dungeon. just happily fired into the ground.

so its an experience farming thing eh?
sucks, implication is they cant give anything good for content they want people to be able to experience normally.

not sure why he would be chainingh story mode for experience though. dont dungeons gived fixed percentages of your TNL? couldnt he just have done the explorables of a lower level dungeon?

Yea I think its 70% of your level 2 times per dungeon then like 20-40%

Its what I do to level new chars :P Except I do explorable too. Ill be kitten ed if I do open world or WvW unless a season is on.

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