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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Yeah I just find sword unbelievably boring though. The numbers dont even look impressive with sword auto. Atleast with GS i can press 5 buttons for dps!

I dunno, 6k, 6k, 5kx3 sword auto chain looks good to me.

That would be pretty weird.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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How so? I’ve hit numbers bigger than that, I’m just trying to be reasonable.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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If you hit 6k twice you’d be hitting a bit less than 12k on your third attack.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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Probably, but I do know I’d hit 15k on the last one before. Not saying it’s typical, but it happens.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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14-15k is pretty common

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Why do I never see numbers that high on my guard. Guess ill have to blame someone for not buffing properly.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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Scholar Runes
10% potion
10% Sigil
5% Sigil
Food
Berserker’s armor
Might stacks
Vulnerability
Burning / Conditions
I probably forgot some

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Posted by: colesy.8490

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dont lie, you were fighting a champ orrian spider and you were poisoned

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Posted by: Sutcliffe.5491

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I have hit 5-6k auto attacks on sword before using unscathed contender on the golem boss in Coe path before. U want bane signet as well to hit that high…

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Posted by: obal.3218

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Some typical casual guardian dps. Pretty weak 40k WW.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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Scholar Runes
10% potion
10% Sigil
5% Sigil
Food
Berserker’s armor
Might stacks
Vulnerability
Burning / Conditions
I probably forgot some

You forgot banners.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

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thanks for the reply, guys. i’ll give the different builds a shot.
all depends on the group i’m in thuogh, at the end of the teh day.

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Boon Dispenser. Lv80 Guardian 15/25/0/20/10 Boom Dispenser – Lv80 Engineer 30/30/0/10/0
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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

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Meanwhile, in the guardian forums, there’s a guy trying to argue the value of dps guardian with AH and a mace for a main weapon. Ah happy days.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

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Time to invade his personal space?

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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I hate the Guardian forums. I can’t even go there because it makes me want to die.

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haviz.1340

Good call!

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

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I need AH just to survive the trash in the Guardian forums.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

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As much as a i facepalm at some of the stuff on the necro forums. They are heros compared to guard and mesmer forums.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

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Time to invade his personal space?

I cant because he would use mace block on me.

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

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I hate the Guardian forums.

Agree on this sentiment.

Most of the guys down there see the Guard as a freaking healer, Healway is preached as strong and AH is godly while EM is overrated.

Kill me.

Anyway, @dub: i personally prefer RHS + Bloodlust over Gs rotation+ Accuracy.
Let me explain: when playing RHS i still use GS in my rotation (WW symbol WW swap auto Sword for 9 sec swap to GS), unless i need something else as backup weapon.
My only crutch is WW reliability.
I know that you can simply walk in the mob and cast it inside there – BAM! all projectile connects and WW gets a decent burst. But i don’t like this unreliability. The mob moves of a inch and your burst loses half of it’s damage.

Might depend on bosses tho.
Getting a full WW connect on Lupi or Alpha is surely easier than getting it to Nokk in SE (cause he’s a freaking asura).

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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It’s even better if ww hits only 9 times, which it is pretty much guaranteed even if you stand next to an asura size model. Although: swapling back to gs after 9 seconds is bad. You won’t have binding blades and symbol off cooldown by then.

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Posted by: Essence Snow.3194

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Ofc most of it is situational. For instance 1h sword uses projectiles as we all know, thus it is not a good weapon for circumstances where foes reflect or for target boxes (burrow/traps/etc) that bug out to them.

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Posted by: Nikaido.3457

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Ofc most of it is situational. For instance 1h sword uses projectiles as we all know, thus it is not a good weapon for circumstances where foes reflect or for target boxes (burrow/traps/etc) that bug out to them.

For SE path 1 you should camp greatsword during the first run part with the barriers because of that. Sword will often just bug out at the third hit, trying to repeatedly do the third hit when it doesn’t connect to anything (trying to cleave the two turrets that generate the walls).
The mediocre AoE/cleave issues (it’s more like a piercing arrow than a sword cleave) from that third hit also means that gs is better to camp in many fights with groups of trash.

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

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It’s even better if ww hits only 9 times, which it is pretty much guaranteed even if you stand next to an asura size model. Although: swapling back to gs after 9 seconds is bad. You won’t have binding blades and symbol off cooldown by then.

Binding blade isn’t really meaningful in terms of DPS. You usually use it at the start of the fight to clump mobs if you need to, then nuke them down and be done with it.

About symbol, yeah, was thinking about using WW 2 times before swap, which would put Symbol around a 10 sec remaining CD mark when going to sword – thus after 9 sec of sword you get back in GS with symbol up. But that would mean autoattacking in GS for about 10 sec. And that 2nd WW isn’t worth the dps loss of 9 sec of GS auto.
So, yeah, was miscalculating the CDs with a bad rotation.

I don’t get what you mean “even better if ww hits only 9 times” + “stand next to..”, tbh – standing next instead of inside a mob should make your WW dmg nosedive cause half of hits do not connect and get launched around, no?

Anyway, weapons and skills are situational ofc, and swapping to the most suited one for what you’re doing is part of being good at DGs. I think most ppl here will agree on it.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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No, actually not. WW is (according to the tooltip) meant to hit 9 times which it does when you stand in melee range to your target. If you stand in your target you usually get about 11-15 hits (depending on targets size). WW might sometimes appear as really low damage. but you can’t always trust the number at the end. Especially if there’s some ground height difference between you and your target the floating bugs around a lot. I already had WW hitting 11 times on simin without even any number appearing.
And i meant it was “even better than just staying on sword”.

Also: Binding Blades can be really meaningful in terms of dps. Especially of it hits your target 4-5 times thats basically 5-6 autoattacks in less than 1 second.

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Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

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I admit i haven’t even tought about using Binding Blade for anything other than pulls.

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

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Meanwhile, in the guardian forums, there’s a guy trying to argue the value of dps guardian with AH and a mace for a main weapon. Ah happy days.

reminds me of the guy telling me I shouldn’t camp hammer and swapping to mace is the way to go

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Posted by: obal.3218

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49k Whirling Wrath. Gave it a few tries this time.
Clearly clerics AH mace/torch is the way to go since my build sucks.

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Posted by: Pinkey Flowery.7018

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Don’t use logic. Clearly, small green numbers are far superior to big white numbers.

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Posted by: colesy.8490

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I thought bloodgruve crunched numbers showing that mace DPS actually isn’t that far off GS or sword?

It’s in some thread where he’s arguing with spazpanel

I hate that guy

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

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I thought bloodgruve crunched numbers showing that mace DPS actually isn’t that far off GS or sword?

It’s in some thread where he’s arguing with spazpanel

I hate that guy

I was talking about this one
the guy said I am wrong about zeal tree having bad synergy with hammer cos I should be swapping to mace for TONS OF REGEN

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