Which is the fastest in exp? AC, SE or HOTW?

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Posted by: Tirshek.9563

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Need to get the Power/Toughness/Vitality gear.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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SE1 is the 2nd fastest path in the game behind cof1.

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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I think it goes in this order, slow to long. SE p1, HotW p1, SE p3, AC…

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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I think it goes in this order, slow to long. SE p1, HotW p1, SE p3, AC…

I think you mean short to long, or fast to slow. :p

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Pretty sure AC Path 1 is the fastest dungeon path in the game. Easily 7 Minutes as duo, easily 5 minutes as 5 men group.
From loading screen until reward.

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Posted by: colesy.8490

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HotW path 1 is eeeeeasy.

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Posted by: Sorin.4310

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Pretty sure AC Path 1 is the fastest dungeon path in the game. Easily 7 Minutes as duo, easily 5 minutes as 5 men group.
From loading screen until reward.

Well someone struggles with AC p1 and is not happy about it…lol

But as others have said, SE p1 is nearly as fast as CoF p1, and I dont think people have tried to “maximize” their efficiency there nearly as well as CoF either. I imagine once CoF gets nerfed, we’ll just all switch to to there.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Pretty sure AC Path 1 is the fastest dungeon path in the game. Easily 7 Minutes as duo, easily 5 minutes as 5 men group.
From loading screen until reward.

Just running to each of the required objectives alone takes 5 min so I doubt you can do it in 7 min or less. There’s no way you can quickly destroy all of the burrows with two people assuming it’s even possible.

I’d like to see a video to prove your claim. I can’t see people doing it in under 11 min and that’s with the optimum speed group.

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

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@Dub

No it isn’t it takes about 7-8 minutes without kholer (haven’t timed it yet) but with Kholer it takes 10-11 minutes.

@OP

The fastest is SE p1 and p3 then it is a toss up between AC p1 and HotW p1. Pretty much SE is the next CoF with 1 downsize and that is you get less gold from SE than CoF since CoF has two bosses that drop coin versus 1 in SE (the final boss drops nothing).

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

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that and the tokens are worthless from SE

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

Oddly, I see no videos. While the adage might be “pics or it didn’t happen,” I hope you understand that in this case, I’m asking for something more. . .substantial.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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I think it goes in this order, slow to long. SE p1, HotW p1, SE p3, AC…

if you are going by pug with average experience and average ability this is it.

AC pug is usually pretty bad. Unless you are one of those guy who claim they can duo ac in less than 10 minutes.

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Posted by: Mourningcry.9428

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Would it be asking too much to see a vid of a ~7min AC P1 run?

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Use your imagination, it’s all about two skills.

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

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The question is what was skipped during that run? Kholer is a chest and gold loot. Spider boss? If you just do burrows + scepter find + final boss it is possible but definitely not better than CoF p1 farm with 2 gold loot + 3 chest versus this possible 2 chest + 1 gold loot. On top of that AC tokens can’t be used to get ectos easily like CoF.

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Posted by: AusterlitZ.7941

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AC 1,2 and 3,SE 1 and 3 are all easy to do in about 15 min with a good group.SE 2 takes like 30-45 min depending on group,HotW 1 is about 20 min(because of the final boss),2 and 3 are around 30 min.

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Posted by: AusterlitZ.7941

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The question is what was skipped during that run? Kholer is a chest and gold loot. Spider boss? If you just do burrows + scepter find + final boss it is possible but definitely not better than CoF p1 farm with 2 gold loot + 3 chest versus this possible 2 chest + 1 gold loot. On top of that AC tokens can’t be used to get ectos easily like CoF.

maybe read the OP?he wants pvt gear,not to farm gold

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

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AC 1,2 and 3,SE 1 and 3 are all easy to do in about 15 min with a good group.SE 2 takes like 30-45 min depending on group,HotW 1 is about 20 min(because of the final boss),2 and 3 are around 30 min.

I can tell you if you try the pug for AC, it sometimes don’t go too well. It is much safer to go SE or HOTW.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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Use your imagination, it’s all about two skills.

Okay, I’ll use my imagination. There, I just solo’d the dungeon in two minutes. Gee, that was fun!

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Congratulations.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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There’s no way you could do the burrow event in 20 seconds unless you used a teleport hack. Pictures, when it comes to speed runs, do not count.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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Yeah, sorry, but your two pictures and “honor system” aren’t gonna cut it here. Post a video to back up your claims, or don’t expect to be taken seriously.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Seriously guys, use your brain. I’m not going to spread around the tactics we’ve worked out just because people are too lazy to do it themselves. Pictures proove that it happened, thats enough.

Oh. And duo’ing the burrow event in 20 seconds… cmon, it’s not even hard to imagine how that must work.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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There’s a difference between tactics and well…

Pictures are incredibly easy to manipulate. Someone with basic photoshop skills can give themselves whatever time they want.

As far as the mounds go, there are six that you have to destroy. Saying you can do it in 20 seconds means you destroy them in about 3 seconds. This completely ignores travel time to each mound as well as protecting Hodges.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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No. I was talking about duo’ing the burrow part. When i did it solo it took me about 50-60 seconds.
Back to duo: you have to destroy 3 burrows, so you have a bit over 6 seconds for each burrow. Walking is pretty much non-existant on the eastern side and an ele has no need to walk to the first burrow, 1500 range+ (burrow hitbox is about 800 range, so you dont need to be within 1200 range, can also cast it slightly off a burrow and it will still destroy it) and 1200+ range on last burrow. First burrow takes 1 second cast, second 5 seconds and third 2 seconds. And moving in 600 range does not take 12 seconds.
Yes, pictures are incredibly easy to manipulate i guess. All you can do is trust in those who actually posted them. Same principe as in gw1. Trust me or not, you could see ingame with leeching a run (if you get lucky and catch me up doing ac runs), it doesn’t matter too much to me. The question was which dungeon is the fastest, and that is AC Path 1.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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And so was I. Burrows and mounds are the same thing. Considering g that a group of skilled players take longer than 20 seconds to do burrows, I seriously doubt it’s possible to duo them that quickly. I even pointed out how the math proves you wrong. You could have each player take one side of the room except the elementalist’s damage is limited once they use their ice bow. They will not take out the burrows that quickly. I doubt it that you solo’d the burrows that quickly. With the knockdowns and how quickly gravelings spawn, I don’t see it being possible. Maybe before the revamp but not now.

Yes the question was which dungeon was the fastest. It may or may not be AC Path 1. What was being debated was your claim that it was AC by using questionable evidence to support your claim.

EDIT: There are 6 burrows in that room, not 3. Unless for some reason only the one by the door, the one in the NW corner (assuming the entrance is south), and the SE corner need to be destroyed then no.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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So, Ice Storm, Meteor Shower, Ice Storm on the second bow, then? With two elementalists, each taking their own chain, but each taking the 3rd of the opposite chain (so there’s no crossover). I could see the event taking just over 20 seconds from first spawn to last one dying.

Mind you, that still doesn’t verify the rest of your alleged run. . .

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Except he was a warrior.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Not using Ice Storm twice – just once. And a warrior can also do his side in less than 20 seconds.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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I doubt it that you solo’d the burrows that quickly. With the knockdowns and how quickly gravelings spawn, I don’t see it being possible. Maybe before the revamp but not now.

So how was http://imgur.com/a/sbjGg possible?

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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Except he was a warrior.

Oh, hey, you’re right. Yeah, not seeing how that’s happening.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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I doubt it that you solo’d the burrows that quickly. With the knockdowns and how quickly gravelings spawn, I don’t see it being possible. Maybe before the revamp but not now.

So how was http://imgur.com/a/sbjGg possible?

Again, that’s just a series of pictures of you in a dungeon. It proves absolutely nothing other than that you were alone when you took the pictures.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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That time you have been kicked out of the dungeon when you were in a party and all others left/you left. Of course, i could have faked the party window of every single screen.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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That time you have been kicked out of the dungeon when you were in a party and all others left/you left. Of course, i could have faked the party window of every single screen.

All three of them. Clearly a monumental task. . .

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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So, after watching a video posted by one of the other members of the forum Dub linked to, it seems that the strategy is to skip everything (including spider and gravelings in the trap hallway), then use fire ele, mortars, plant mortars, ogre pets, and more stealth kits than you can shake a stick at. So, yeah, using any times based on the use of no less than 5 different types of consumables is hardly a good basis for determining the fastest path, especially for someone unfamiliar with the area.

And if you’re going to say that your ele/warrior duo used no consumables, I’m going to demand a video before I believe it.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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We used exactly one – because we were lazy and it makes start going faster.

Faster means saving about 10 seconds.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

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We used exactly one – because we were lazy and it makes start going faster.

Faster means saving about 10 seconds.

Yeah, still gonna need a video for that. . .

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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You can’t skip spider queen anymore unless someone found a glitch to get past it. One I hope does get patched if turns out to be true.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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We used exactly one – because we were lazy and it makes start going faster.

Faster means saving about 10 seconds.

Yeah, still gonna need a video for that. . .

Figure out how it works and record it.
I won’t.

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We used exactly one – because we were lazy and it makes start going faster.

Faster means saving about 10 seconds.

Yeah, still gonna need a video for that. . .

Figure out how it works and record it.
I won’t.

Sorry, but the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. If you can’t be bothered to back up your own claim, I’m going to assume you’re making it up. It’s not my job to prove things for you because you can’t take the 5 minutes to do it yourself. . .

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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Lol. I do have videos of that. But im simply not willing to share tactics, as selfish as we are.

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.

What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.

What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?

Same ones discussed in this thread (easily photoshoppable pictures), please don’t waste time if you already know the answer

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.

What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?

Same ones discussed in this thread (easily photoshoppable pictures), please don’t waste time if you already know the answer

Highly doubt that since screenshots are accepted as proof there.
I don’t need to proove anything here, though. I answered the OP’s question with the right answer. I didn’t say pugs are capable of farming AC quick, just that it is possible to do so. Believe it or not, we are doing runs in the time mentioned above.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Where certain type of proof is accepted is irrelevant. I can state that these other forums accept my word that I can do AC solo in two minutes. It doesn’t mean that it’s true. Videos are widely accepted as proof since they’re more difficult to fake/manipulate.

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

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The question is what was skipped during that run? Kholer is a chest and gold loot. Spider boss? If you just do burrows + scepter find + final boss it is possible but definitely not better than CoF p1 farm with 2 gold loot + 3 chest versus this possible 2 chest + 1 gold loot. On top of that AC tokens can’t be used to get ectos easily like CoF.

maybe read the OP?he wants pvt gear,not to farm gold

How about you take your own advice because the question was answered. And I’m saying for the person that did AC really fast when everyone knows it isn’t that fast. Like maybe read above and look at context.

Also, for Tokens you get 60 then 20 then 10 then it depends on DR. So actually doing it faster gains you less unless you have a lot of alts.

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Posted by: CuRtoKy.8576

CuRtoKy.8576

http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.

What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.

What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?

Same ones discussed in this thread (easily photoshoppable pictures), please don’t waste time if you already know the answer

Highly doubt that since screenshots are accepted as proof there.
I don’t need to proove anything here, though. I answered the OP’s question with the right answer. I didn’t say pugs are capable of farming AC quick, just that it is possible to do so. Believe it or not, we are doing runs in the time mentioned above.

Actually if you claim something then you have to prove it. I can say I can clear AC p1 run 5 man group in 4 minutes. Now people will ask me to prove it because honestly I can be lying so unless I can prove it then it is just a baseless claim. Screenshots don’t prove much because if you can skip certain bosses then obviously that cuts down on the time. For example skipping Kholer reduces the time.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

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gwscr.com accepts screenshots as proof. Noone is forced to share the tactics he used.
Not saying that you guys have to accept it, don’t believe it’s possible if you want. Even if it is a bit kitten since i provided screenshots and gave imformation about how it can be done.
There have been arguments “blabla is not possible”, which i all proved wrong.
And what does skipping bosses have to do with this? Kholer is optional, like the Bridge event im CoF. Or are you now telling me CoF farmers who skip that are not doing CoF p1?

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