Which is the fastest in exp? AC, SE or HOTW?

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

gwscr.com accepts screenshots as proof. Noone is forced to share the tactics he used.
Not saying that you guys have to accept it, don’t believe it’s possible if you want. Even if it is a bit kitten since i provided screenshots and gave imformation about how it can be done.
There have been arguments “blabla is not possible”, which i all proved wrong.
And what does skipping bosses have to do with this? Kholer is optional, like the Bridge event im CoF. Or are you now telling me CoF farmers who skip that are not doing CoF p1?

Actually, no you haven’t.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

Iures.2894

gwscr.com accepts screenshots as proof. Noone is forced to share the tactics he used.
Not saying that you guys have to accept it, don’t believe it’s possible if you want. Even if it is a bit kitten since i provided screenshots and gave imformation about how it can be done.
There have been arguments “blabla is not possible”, which i all proved wrong.
And what does skipping bosses have to do with this? Kholer is optional, like the Bridge event im CoF. Or are you now telling me CoF farmers who skip that are not doing CoF p1?

You haven’t proven anything at all in this entire thread. All you’ve done is make unfounded, unproven claims and refuse to back any of them up with actual evidence. We don’t care that the other site is willing to take your word for it. Their trust in you is irrelevant to the veracity of your claims.

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Posted by: Broadicea.8294

Broadicea.8294

Fraps or it didn’t happen

Retired. Too many casuals.

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Posted by: RagingDragon.9475

RagingDragon.9475

I doubt it that you solo’d the burrows that quickly. With the knockdowns and how quickly gravelings spawn, I don’t see it being possible. Maybe before the revamp but not now.

So how was http://imgur.com/a/sbjGg possible?

gwscr.com accepts screenshots as proof. Noone is forced to share the tactics he used.
Not saying that you guys have to accept it, don’t believe it’s possible if you want. Even if it is a bit kitten since i provided screenshots and gave imformation about how it can be done.
There have been arguments “blabla is not possible”, which i all proved wrong.
And what does skipping bosses have to do with this? Kholer is optional, like the Bridge event im CoF. Or are you now telling me CoF farmers who skip that are not doing CoF p1?

With my veteran guild members can speed clear it in less than 20 min, including Kholer. But we aren’t really trying either, so a 10 min 5 man speed run could be possible. But that was not the point of this, he will most likely be in a PUG so it will take roughly 30-45 min if you have people with some experience. For the OP I would recommend HoTW p1. You will have less chances of getting a bad PUG for HoTW than for SE. So ultimately it may not be the fastest path by a couple of min, but you will probably save time and frustation in the long run by doing HoTW.

But Dub you need to do a better job editing your pics, if you want to troll people.

According to the time stamps of your screen shots.
Screen 1 – Is AFTER you have cleared the burrows – 11:50
Screen 2 – After completion of collecting the scepter pieces – 11:53
Screen 3 – Completion of the Dungeon – 12:01

All those times are actually doable ill admit. But that is 11 min for half the dungeon….
You are still missing Spider queen, clearing the burrows, travel time, and waiting on the NPC dialogue so you can choose your path.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

That was a solo and i did not edit any of the pictures i posted. Whats so strange about those times? As single person you can’t speed up hodgins and have to go back after collecting all scepter pieces. Also the damage i was dealing was extremely low since i had no chance to melee the boss with lightning hammer (i did not even knew about lightning hammer that time i must admit lol) and as before statet – was alone and had no other person also attacking the boss. All those screens were good for is showing that i solo’d AC Path 1 after the revamp. And unless i’m not able to perfectly edit out the group window avatar’s of other people (which i would not be) that’s clearly a proof. Because when i did the solo, the dungeon you launched would have been destroyed if all other people left or you left the party yourself.

About other things: i proved that duo’ing the burrow part in theory in less than 20 seconds is possible.
A video of duo’ing the burrow part pre-revamp can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGTMBV-xjB8
Note: That run was extremely bad, it was 4 month ago and i was using P/V/T Gear and a Condition-Based build. A somehow “better” run with blurred parts and a camera recording my screen can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH3t5joLOhY
Note: Our skill-level sucked that time and the run was still slow. We even did a 6 minute run that time.

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Posted by: Zindrix.1750

Zindrix.1750

Lol. I do have videos of that. But im simply not willing to share exploits, as selfish as we are.

Fixed it for you.

Also in your video, it obviously takes longer than 20 seconds. Even then you’re using many consumables and it’s BEFORE the AC nerf.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

AC didn’t get “nerfed”. Also we are not willing to share tactics, not exploits. Probably you will consider the use of terrain to do more damage (fiery gs, everyone uses it) as exploit, i don’t. If you call me exploiting the burden of proving that is yours. The burrow part is now easier because scavengers no longer exist. And it took that long because i didn’t knew that fiery gs #4 can kill a burrow that time.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

what’s the point on coming to forum and just taunting people. If you can speed run dungeon good for you.

If you dont’ want to share, keep it to yourself.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

I just said that AC is the fastest dungeon in the game, people kept telling it isn’t.

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Posted by: RagingDragon.9475

RagingDragon.9475

Pretty sure AC Path 1 is the fastest dungeon path in the game. Easily 7 Minutes as duo, easily 5 minutes as 5 men group.
From loading screen until reward.

Actually CoF is the fastest dungeon currently.

So how was http://imgur.com/a/sbjGg possible?

You provided a link to screen shots to “show” it was possible. I just pointed out you need to edit your pics to remove the time stamp if you are going to use them as evidence of your “awesomeness”. And also that you skipped a couple of sections and you time was still 11 min. As well as that run was before the changes to AC.

If you actually read my post, which you probably didnt… You would see that I said a speed run is possible, just not probable in a PUG. Which is what this thread was actually about before you derailed it.

So how about you give some actual advice about how to run it faster to help the comminity and the OP, or just go back to farming CoF.

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

Zariuss.2357

I think it goes in this order, slow to long. SE p1, HotW p1, SE p3, AC…

I think you mean short to long, or fast to slow. :p

Yeah my bad… I ment from shortest to longest.

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Posted by: Zindrix.1750

Zindrix.1750

AC didn’t get “nerfed”. Also we are not willing to share tactics, not exploits. Probably you will consider the use of terrain to do more damage (fiery gs, everyone uses it) as exploit, i don’t. If you call me exploiting the burden of proving that is yours. The burrow part is now easier because scavengers no longer exist. And it took that long because i didn’t knew that fiery gs #4 can kill a burrow that time.

AC was nerfed, the events in Curse Shore were nerfed, fish gut farm was nerfed. Please tell me you don’t buy the idea that they changed AC to be more “interesting”(a word they actually used in the patch notes), they do these things to decrease the amount of gold people can get in shorter amount of time. AC takes longer now and is far buggier than it was before. CoF will be changed soon enough to also take longer. Remember, they want people to buy gem$$$$$$.

I don’t remember if Scavengers are the ones that constantly knock you down, but if they are, they do still spawn, just only from certain burrows now. Also, Hodgins seems much harder to guard after the nerf as well.

Anyways, this thread did get derailed. Your post wasn’t helpful at all because nobody but you really wants to spend the gold on consumables or the time to find all of the exploits and 1337 TACTICS to run P1 in less than 15 mins.


To the OP: Depending on if you want to run a dungeon briefly once a night, or if you simply just want to acquire the gear faster, here is my 2 cents.

-You can run Hotw P1(15 mins) once a night and get your 60 tokens each time until you have enough for the gear you want. P2 and P3 are pretty long, and is harder to find a PUG for them.

-You can run AC P1 and P3. I personally avoid P2 because PUGs have trouble with it and it’s still really buggy and the boss is just overall really obnoxious, but in the end you can get your gear faster with doing 2 runs instead of 1.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Dub is legit guy, saw him doing rather rare feats.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

I just said that AC is the fastest dungeon in the game, people kept telling it isn’t.

you actually need a video for that. for all i know your 7 min might be closer to 8

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Well, we did a 6 minute duo pre patch which is pretty much out of reach now. 5 men could still do tiny 5’s.

@haviz, thanks. Actually everyone could see im not lying when just kindly asking me ingame to be picked up for a run. But w/e.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

There is a video compilation of all dungeon path up top of this forum

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

AC was nerfed, the events in Curse Shore were nerfed, fish gut farm was nerfed. Please tell me you don’t buy the idea that they changed AC to be more “interesting”(a word they actually used in the patch notes), they do these things to decrease the amount of gold people can get in shorter amount of time. AC takes longer now and is far buggier than it was before. CoF will be changed soon enough to also take longer. Remember, they want people to buy gem$$$$$$.

Facerolling through content isn’t exactly interesting. New ac is much better than previous one. And I really hope for cof changes.

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Posted by: Zindrix.1750

Zindrix.1750

AC was nerfed, the events in Curse Shore were nerfed, fish gut farm was nerfed. Please tell me you don’t buy the idea that they changed AC to be more “interesting”(a word they actually used in the patch notes), they do these things to decrease the amount of gold people can get in shorter amount of time. AC takes longer now and is far buggier than it was before. CoF will be changed soon enough to also take longer. Remember, they want people to buy gem$$$$$$.

Facerolling through content isn’t exactly interesting. New ac is much better than previous one. And I really hope for cof changes.

I honestly still have fun in CoF even if it is short. The problem I have with AC is that they don’t have a PTR and don’t test their content. It’s buggy and some of the changes they made were pretty bad. I’d take content that is easier, over content that has been hastily changed to affect the economy in the favor of the developers.

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Posted by: Iures.2894

Iures.2894

AC didn’t get “nerfed”. Also we are not willing to share tactics, not exploits. Probably you will consider the use of terrain to do more damage (fiery gs, everyone uses it) as exploit, i don’t. If you call me exploiting the burden of proving that is yours. The burrow part is now easier because scavengers no longer exist. And it took that long because i didn’t knew that fiery gs #4 can kill a burrow that time.

Funny how for you, the burden of proof is always on someone else. Even when you’re the one making the claim. . .

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

I would honestly suggest mix-and-match runs. Pick the easier paths from each one and cycle between them all. Unless you have an organised group, that would be a safer route for PUGing.

You’ll get enough tokens for various pieces from each vendor as you go. It’s more refreshing that way, too. I get sick of seeing CoF when getting berserker gear for alts, so I’ll run CoE and Arah too.

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Posted by: Raestloz.7134

Raestloz.7134

For PuGs

Go for AC Path 3, bring an ele with Ice Bow and Fiery GS

The gravelings are much more managable