Guild Wars 2

nortagemdrol.9071:

It’s a shame that dungeons are all about speed clears and making money. I cleared SE path 2 last night for the first time and the last boss was a great challenge and a lot of fun.

Ugh. This is my pet peeve with SE: what I consider the best boss fight of SE explorable is in the worst path to run.

Frankly for me, SE 2 is just too long to be fun.

panikos.8309:

Well, the state it was until recently and the bad rep it left behind I guess. When I wanted to make a PVT set I had HotW AC, Temples and SE as a choice and ended up with HotW+Temples even though I wanted full SE because all I could hear was that it is a mess and very difficult to do. Im working my way to full SE light knight armor now. Need 500 more tokens. Im trying to do all paths each day. With a party of 2 wars 1 ele, 1 engi and me(necromancer) path 2 took us around 35-38 mins the others 10-15 mins. Its easy enough if people know/listen to the basic strategy of each encounter.

edit: I usually play on silent mode so I can hear my voice chat. I got no idea what that nonono thing is

Lucky you.

I find it funny people dislike the look of the armor yet like everyone thinks this is just the bees knees:
http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/cof/heavy/front.jpg

The SE armor has some pretty nice looking pieces, namely the gloves, boots and pants. The light armor chest is a great chance of pace as well, re-enforced metal banded breastplate for light armor? The metallic sheen of the pieces can work as nice accents to other cloth armor pieces too.

But kitten fiery graphics on your armor are apparently ‘awesome’ despite SE armor having some pieces for that to? Sometimes I wonder if the community has any sense of style at all

@panikos, then you need to experience it at least once. ; ))) lol

Leo G.4501:

I find it funny people dislike the look of the armor yet like everyone thinks this is just the bees knees:
http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/cof/heavy/front.jpg

The SE armor has some pretty nice looking pieces, namely the gloves, boots and pants. The light armor chest is a great chance of pace as well, re-enforced metal banded breastplate for light armor? The metallic sheen of the pieces can work as nice accents to other cloth armor pieces too.

But kitten fiery graphics on your armor are apparently ‘awesome’ despite SE armor having some pieces for that to? Sometimes I wonder if the community has any sense of style at all

Hate em both to be honest, but I also think the temple armor skin looks good, midnight fire + celestial dyes and I’ve been using it since the day I got it. Maybe I don’t have a sense of style.

Toast.6459:

panikos.8309:

Well, the state it was until recently and the bad rep it left behind I guess. When I wanted to make a PVT set I had HotW AC, Temples and SE as a choice and ended up with HotW+Temples even though I wanted full SE because all I could hear was that it is a mess and very difficult to do. Im working my way to full SE light knight armor now. Need 500 more tokens. Im trying to do all paths each day. With a party of 2 wars 1 ele, 1 engi and me(necromancer) path 2 took us around 35-38 mins the others 10-15 mins. Its easy enough if people know/listen to the basic strategy of each encounter.

edit: I usually play on silent mode so I can hear my voice chat. I got no idea what that nonono thing is

Lucky you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCwhOUktFc

lol thanks I have noticed the text on the chat box before but never heard of the sound good thing I play on silent.

Leo G.4501:

I find it funny people dislike the look of the armor yet like everyone thinks this is just the bees knees:
http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/cof/heavy/front.jpg

Agreed, sort of. I personally hate anything flame legion/destroyer related, ugliest gear in the game IMO. But I admit the CoF pieces have certain style: they’re over-the-top and generally silly in the 80’s cartoon villain style, but well, lots of people like fantasy gear to be like this.

SE on the other hand… those look just crude. They look like something made by a blind smith living in a junkyard. I know that technically that’s almost exactly what dredge are, but well, it doesn’t make the gear any more appealing. It only seems fitting for very specific race/class combos (though it certainly is a good choice for people who want unique looks… almost noone is wearing full set of those).

It doesn’t help that weapons are simple palette shifts of common glyphic gear (which is kind of blocky and unappealing in itself, at least IMO). That’s some seriously lazy design, Anet.

Rising Dusk.2408:

“NO NO NO! We should go to the armory—NO NO NO—NO NO NO! We should go to the armory. That’s where Zadorojny is likely to—NO NO NO—NO NO NO!”

Ahahaha, yes. I love this.

I did this dungeon to death to get my Guardian Knights stats armour (and also gloves for my Mesmer) and never found it difficult to get a group for path 1 or 3.

Although getting a group for path 2 was trickier, as it’s so much longer and some people have trouble grasping the mechanics of the last boss.

If I’d had a choice though, I wouldn’t have chose to do SE. The armour isn’t my favourite looks wise but it’s the only one with Knights stats. I’ll probably end up transmuting it, but not until other characters and decked out to.

Armor is very bad almost as ugly as AC

Because its design has been awful since release. 80% of it is grinding through walls of Dredge, probably the worst NPCs to fight against since pre-nerf Risen. The remaining 20% of it is grinding against bosses with one-off mechanics with similar walls of HP.

Path 2 is almost criminal in how bad it is. Give me one reason why the Foreman miniboss exists save to waste the player’s time. He has no mechanics. He has no adds. He has no special abilities. He’s just a giant wall of health that heals. And the overseers you have to kill immediately after him? Regular mobs with champion stats, followed by a ‘defend against waves of boon-spamming jerks’ event to continue into a room of even more dredge.

Path 3 is ‘decent’ only in the sense that it causes less outright suffering than Path 2. Path 1 is probably the only ‘good’ one, but it’s so quick and easy with the right setup it borders on trivial speedrun territory.

As for the armor, SE has the coolest helm of all the dungeon armors and maybe it’s just my graphic settings, but the metallic pieces have a glossy sheen that few armors share. And it looks like thick metal too, not paper-thin sheets like CM armor or pretty much every other armor set (and light armor doesn’t really get any metal looking armor except SE).

Dunno how anyone sees it as ‘junk forged by blind smiths’ or whatever, unless by junk you mean solid. If nothing more, the SE sets have great boots while other sets either have forgettable boots or boots that chop off your toes so you can have claws for feet.

Ioflux.4369:

“NO NO NO. We should go to the armory. That’s where Zadorojny is likely to be.”

thats the only part of SE i like
(except for getting the rewards… i like that too)

For someone like me who finds this dungeon easy, has every stat set, and doesn’t need money any more…

Well… SE skins are ugly as kitten.

The Medium armour is super sweet on Engineers.

The rest… meh.