Guild Wars 2

Anyone know why dungeon tokens got nerfed? I understand why the gold got nerf in dungeons but why nerf tokens too?

I leveled alts to 80 just so I could get tokens faster instead of waiting after each reset to get more tokens from the dungeon with the armor/weapons that I wanted for my alts.

What’s the reward for running the same dungeon twice? token-wise?

20 dungeon tokens if im not mistaken. DR is worse than before. It is becuase…….reasons
Anet seems to hate alts

they want you to get out of dungeons and do those spam F 50 times achivements

I find myself using my alts less and less because there’s no reason to play them anymore. My alts are dying to be used.

Same here, i even forgot i had a thief until my party needed it to skip CM

Because with alts it was ridiculously easy to get tokens. Back when you could use alts I was averaging 1.5k – 2k CoE tokens a day. Pretty sure that’s not what ANet intended.

You were averaging 30+ CoE path runs per day?

Hate alts? You can get tokens just as fast as a person with no alts. You are not penalized or given preferential treatment by the designers.

Stooperdale.3560:

Hate alts? You can get tokens just as fast as a person with no alts. You are not penalized or given preferential treatment by the designers.

Yes, they hate alts.

1) Soulbound
2) Time gated content
3) Laurels
4) Fotm levels

Lets look at laurels. If I want all my characters to be equally geared, I need to wait a year to get all the needed laurels. However, a person with one character, can use those extra laurels to get t6 mats or unID dyes. It is a choice yes. But Anet didn’t use to hate alts as much.

Worst part about alts is grinding ascended gear. Especially the backpiece and now weapons.

Breaking Bad.6241:

You were averaging 30+ CoE path runs per day?

3in1 = 30 min, 3in1 = 200 tokens, 10 alts/runs = 2k tokens, 2k tokens = 5hrs (30min x10).

Later when p1 got patched, it was p2/3 only.

2in1 = 20 min, 2in1 = 130 tokens, 10 alts/chars = 1.3k tokens, 1.3k tokens = 3.5hrs (20min x 10).

Then, p2/3 was patched.

p2 = 15min, p2 = 70 tokens, 10 alts/chars = 700 tokens, 700 tokens = 2.5hrs (15min x 10).

Finally, alt swapping got patched and farming dungeons for tokens wasn’t worth it anymore. The only reason to now run multiple paths per day is if you want to quickly lvl a lowbie, in which case you’d just run some other easier dungeon.

Stooperdale.3560:

Hate alts? You can get tokens just as fast as a person with no alts. You are not penalized or given preferential treatment by the designers.

The work it takes to get an alt should be rewarded with something. They did hurt my alts especially since they changed it and took it away they didnt just have it since the beginning. And now with 7 levels per craft i cant even craft new ones. grrrrrrrr..

I had more fun picking the profession, based on the party group, whenever I ran dungeons. No tokens = no alts.

I just think the fewer people run dungeons for tokens mean less parties. Not good.

“The work it takes to get an alt should be rewarded with something. "

Oh you feel deserving of something do you? Well no. Create alts for fun rather than facilitating grind.

Stooperdale.3560:

“The work it takes to get an alt should be rewarded with something. "

Oh you feel deserving of something do you? Well no. Create alts for fun rather than facilitating grind.

r u an elephant?

champ.7021:

Stooperdale.3560:

“The work it takes to get an alt should be rewarded with something. "

Oh you feel deserving of something do you? Well no. Create alts for fun rather than facilitating grind.

r u an elephant?

Lol!

@Stuperdale. Why should my 2nd character be kitten from my first character. Say we both level 1 character to 80 in 80 hours. Both of us spent 80 hours. Then I level another character in 80 hours while you do dungeons for 80 hours. You now have a lot more tokens. That’s fine, because it was my choice.

Now that I have 2 80s and you have 1 80. We both run AC all 3 explorable paths. Now we both have about 180 AC tokens. I have another character I could run it on, becuase I want him to have 180 AC tokens for gear as well. NOPE! Even though It would take another 1.5hrs to do the paths, I would not get the 180 AC tokens.

That’s not fair now is it?

“Now that I have 2 80s and you have 1 80. We both run AC all 3 explorable paths. Now we both have about 180 AC tokens. I have another character I could run it on, becuase I want him to have 180 AC tokens for gear as well. NOPE! Even though It would take another 1.5hrs to do the paths, I would not get the 180 AC tokens.

That’s not fair now is it?"

Fair is all relative. If a person runs the path twice why should get more benefit with two characters than one character? It’s ‘unfair’ to a person with one character if the person with two characters gets more, just as much as it is ‘unfair’ for the person with two to only get as much as the person with one character. The time spent in the dungeon is the same either way.

Ethics is saying that the time put into making another charcter level 80 should be rewarded by having the option of repeating dungeons paths to get the rewards again. The player that didn’t bother to level a second character to 80 should not complain they only get 180 tokens (assuming they did all 3 paths).

Removing the tokens for the 2nd character, the alt, gives a good reason for people to not level another character to 80. There will be no benefits for making more than one level 80. Alts are worthless in regards for getting dungeon tokens.

Are we really still crying about this? If you want to play your alt, play your alt. Stop being a BHB.

Stooperdale.3560:

Fair is all relative. If a person runs the path twice why should get more benefit with two characters than one character? It’s ‘unfair’ to a person with one character if the person with two characters gets more, just as much as it is ‘unfair’ for the person with two to only get as much as the person with one character. The time spent in the dungeon is the same either way.

A person with alts ‘needs’ the extra tokens for gearing and so on, whereas someone with a single character does not.

I don’t think fairness is relevant here, its a question of what is practical vs. what isn’t.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Are we really still crying about this? If you want to play your alt, play your alt. Stop being a BHB.

i will once i know what that is so far i know:
its an acronym
its bad
its a cult sort of that believes in baphomet

sooo….yeah dont know that much

Can we get a real answer from a dev? So we don’t have to speculate random thoughts that leads to nothing.

Wicked Rin.1972:

Can we get a real answer from a dev? So we don’t have to speculate random thoughts that leads to nothing.

Rule #1 when posting in dungeon sub forums, dev posts are like sasquatch sightings. Granted there was the one time where we all tried to create our own TAFU threads fill up the first page…

Seriously though, this topic is a month and change late to the party. Many did sufficient complaining in prior threads then, no dev responses to date then.

Rule #2 to the dungeon sub forums… there is no dungeon team to hear our cries.

champ.7021:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Are we really still crying about this? If you want to play your alt, play your alt. Stop being a BHB.

i will once i know what that is so far i know:
its an acronym
its bad
its a cult sort of that believes in baphomet

sooo….yeah dont know that much

It’s actually not an acronym. Its initialism.

But yes, definitely a cult.