Guild Wars 2

IF you dead before Boss and TEAM kill it. You still not get Boss Heart

Ex: Jade Heart , Protected Heart , Fragment of the Mists , Demonic Heart

because the crystalline heart functionality is totally broken. you cant use it in combat, it disappears when dead. its absurd

Yeah i have to redo second boss because of it.

@anet !!!!!!!! plz see this

Have to redo the 4th boss for this as well, a fix would be awesome Anet

I’m pretty sure this is the whole point: to prevent bads from getting the armor. Otherwise you would just pay for a run, use the heart, then die instantly and get rewarded. The whole point is to show that you killed the boss without dying.

Now the fact that you have to remember to use the heart each and every pull is pretty dumb and I’ll totally agree that that needs changing (totally missed boss 2 because of it both times I’ve killed him, but for my group I tank him so I’ll get it one day).

Jade Heart has to be done with a kill were you A) don’t die and B ) never be hit by spacial manipulation (attack you get protected by green circles). this means you can live with the buff active and not get it. Killed Caine today and didn’t get the heart sadly(I was alive at the end and never went down). All other hearts are just bog standard kill ones.

The same work around probably exist from itzel spirit poison where you just turn off auto looting and activate the heart(poison) before looting the chest after you kill the boss.

The constant clicking of the heart though is absurd and should just be looted from the boss chest instead like the previous collection items.

But there is 3-6 months to finish up the collection before the armor even finished at least unlike the start of stronghold of the faithful were people had to wait a few weeks to get their experimental envoy armor due to spirit poison/ecto rng.

maybe make the waterfall apply it? (like how it gives us the dash)

AndrewMcLeod.3857:

It is intended that you need to survive the encounter to get credit

And I think it’s a good thing. But I think it should be like a buff that you automatically get if you have the heart in the inventory when near the encounter. If you die you lose the buff ofc.

I, myself, missed to use it for the first three bosses and I think an auto refresh buff should be better.

I also have to play PS war condi for the third boss but this character don’t have the heart with him. This is a bit problematic for the achievement, but I should probably getting more attention to it next time.

you can buy a crystalline heart from hobs as long as it not in the bank, inventory of current character, or share inventory. so you can have one on each character.

while i don’t mind a basically eternal achievement for bastion. given that cairn is the only one with a real other requirement beside killing him is just weird.

Also, the heart gained at 3rd boss fight is still called Fragment of the Mists instead of being changed as the other new ones

thats not a bug, that’s because they haven’t finished the legendary armor after like 2 years so u still cant get it

The one to Rule.2593:

thats not a bug, that’s because they haven’t finished the legendary armor after like 2 years so u still cant get it

You didn’t understand what I was saying.
I meant, with latest patch they added 5 additional hearts:
(0) Penitent Heart
(1) Jade Heart
(2) Protected Heart
(3) FRAGMENT OF THE MISTS
(4) Demonic Heart
What I was trying to say is that the (3) shouldn’t be called like this because it’s already in the game (just got it in fact).

And one other thing (which is just my opinion) is that it should be changed the requirement for the (1) to match the others (just killing the boss), I’m finding really hard to avoid all his “Spatial Manipulation” attacks, everyone I saw so far got hit at least once in the fight…moreover it’s really frustrating and sometimes it’s advisable not to go into green spots and take the attack instead (either because green spots are too close to the edge or because someone need to be ressed firstly) and so if someone goes for the heart, it might compromise the fight.

Zaraki.5784:

The one to Rule.2593:

thats not a bug, that’s because they haven’t finished the legendary armor after like 2 years so u still cant get it

You didn’t understand what I was saying.
I meant, with latest patch they added 5 additional hearts:
(0) Penitent Heart
(1) Jade Heart
(2) Protected Heart
(3) FRAGMENT OF THE MISTS
(4) Demonic Heart
What I was trying to say is that the (3) shouldn’t be called like this because it’s already in the game (just got it in fact).

And one other thing (which is just my opinion) is that it should be changed the requirement for the (1) to match the others (just killing the boss), I’m finding really hard to avoid all his “Spatial Manipulation” attacks, everyone I saw so far got hit at least once in the fight…moreover it’s really frustrating and sometimes it’s advisable not to go into green spots and take the attack instead (either because green spots are too close to the edge or because someone need to be ressed firstly) and so if someone goes for the heart, it might compromise the fight.

Agreed. The jade heart will mostly just come down to just doing the first boss during farming runs, rather then your team or pug group working on the first kill(which is the actual achievement). If the design of the hearts is about challenge then why not lock them all behind challenge motes achievements rather then something that can’t even be tracked correctly. Personal “achievements” have no place in a raid fight as you can’t go “guy I got hit. reset”.

Yes, I agree too, and in addition if someone is looking only for the heart, he/she may play bad on purpose when hit to make the party wipe thus ressetting the boss (I saw people doing it -.-), I mean this heart is very troublesome.

AndrewMcLeod.3857:

It is intended that you need to survive the encounter to get credit for the Jade Heart, as Spatial Manipulation will not hit dead characters (and if you could activate the heart in combat, you could just wait until the boss was nearly dead before using it).

I am sorry that we don’t have a better way to track giving credit for the collection without having to reactivate the heart between attempts, but unfortunately, there’s not an easy solution.

I think it’s fair to have the heart buff itself persist after death (maybe 30-60 minute timer). Simply give the achievement only to players who are alive when the boss dies, if they have the buff.

If player is alive and has the buff: give achievement.
If player is dead and has/doesn’t have the buff: no achievement.
If player is alive and doesn’t have the buff: no achievement.

Susy.7529:

Yes, I agree too, and in addition if someone is looking only for the heart, he/she may play bad on purpose when hit to make the party wipe thus ressetting the boss (I saw people doing it -.-), I mean this heart is very troublesome.

Good point, Ive seen people do it aswel.

Getting jade heart encourages selfish play that may (and does) hurt overall squad perfomance, from stacking shared agony inappropriately and leaving downed allies to wipe, to pretty much screwing yourself up on purpose in case of failure to provoke squad wipe. Be it solo achievenent, there would be no problems with it, but it’s not, and it’s just plain bad design.

I agree that these are pretty bad design because they encourage bad play that negatively affects the entire group (intentionally wiping, getting hit by random stuff you normally should avoid, etc). They should just be simple things like “be alive when boss dies while carrying Crystalline Heart”.

What do you have to do for the third boss one? I had the heart active for my kills of that and I’ve been alive at the end. What do you have to actually do during the fight in order to get the heart for that fight?

khani.4786:

What do you have to do for the third boss one? I had the heart active for my kills of that and I’ve been alive at the end. What do you have to actually do during the fight in order to get the heart for that fight?

It’s something about Rigom (the human which spawn with the jotun at phases 66% and 33%), I got the heart quite casually while dealing with him but I don’t know exactly what has to be done to get it.

However again about that boss 1’s heart, while doing it today I found an awesome situation: a guy said “I got hit, please gg”, obviously nobody listened to him, and left the squad in the midst of the fight. -.-’
I mean, please you must do something about, it may create many unpleasant situations like this or worse!

khani.4786:

What do you have to do for the third boss one? I had the heart active for my kills of that and I’ve been alive at the end. What do you have to actually do during the fight in order to get the heart for that fight?

I went looking; I got the heart on our first attempt and had no idea how..

“Once Rigom returns to the battle field to be killed, stand within his aura and kill him. Upon his death, you should receive this progress to the collection.” http://leadexample.net/articles/guild-wars-2-legendary-armor

can someone please explain Protected Heart too please? i had the crystalline buff the whole time and was alive during the entire 2nd boss fight but didn’t get the collection item.

One more thing: I can understand that fully dying reset heart, it’s fair….but not downed state, just happened on deimos, don’t know if this happens on others boss too, nor if it’s a bug or it’s intended that simpy going down reset heart.

I just did Cairn and never got hit by spatial manipulation till i got hit while standing in a circle with 5 ppl (in the middle of them and was on the circle for a good 3sec) for whatever reason (lag,bug?) . Completely missed the heart because of that bug. Seriously this heart just needs to be looted.

Asher.1420:

can someone please explain Protected Heart too please? i had the crystalline buff the whole time and was alive during the entire 2nd boss fight but didn’t get the collection item.

You have to get under the bubble summoned by the person who picked up the “Protect” special action piece at some point in the fight. If you’re pugging just tell them you’re doing the heart collection and to please actually use their skill at some point (my groups never do) in the fight or just let you pick up the piece.

Does anyone else has the bug, that the Demonic Heart after killing Deimos did not count towards collection?
I have beaten Deimos, wasn’t down at any point and it did not count.
I’m a little bit angry about this -.-. This takes the fun to do this boss again, when you dont get the credit, you are doing the boss for….

Kydar Schattendolch.6879:

Does anyone else has the bug, that the Demonic Heart after killing Deimos did not count towards collection?

You have to activate the Crystalline Heart prior to the encounter’s start for it to count.

Rising Dusk.2408:

You have to activate the Crystalline Heart prior to the encounter’s start for it to count.

I did, that’s the problem. I had the buff the whole fight. You can’t activate the Heart midfight.

It worked for me so maybe it’s a rare bug or you forgot something, try sending a ticket and explain your reasons, so maybe they will give you the heart.

Zaraki.5784:

It worked for me so maybe it’s a rare bug or you forgot something, try sending a ticket and explain your reasons, so maybe they will give you the heart.

Yeah, great, i found a rare bug =(
I already did. But don’t have much hope.

Otherwise ppl can buy/sell this too easily.. it’s intended. And when you get it.. it’s good accomplishment. Ppl gets better so those who hasn’t gotten will get eventually