Guild Wars 2

In my signature is a link to my channel. There is a teaching run in there. It got some views. Works as intended !

Enaretos.8079:

In my signature is a link to my channel. There is a teaching run in there. It got some views. Works as intended !

What are you talking about! I don’t see your channel being publicized like the feature patch by the GW2 mods!

Oh. What do we do about those people who failed to hear/read/know about GW2’s feature patch? :O Certainly ANet has yet to figure out the best way to channel their news!

I mean there are already how to play videos out there by the GW2 devs, you know, the pistol/pistol thief and whatnot. How can a player not know how to play well after watching those? /sarcasm off

That is the enemy.

xallever.1874:

What are you talking about! I don’t see your channel being publicized like the feature patch by the GW2 mods!

Oh. What do we do about those people who failed to hear/read/know about GW2’s feature patch? :O Certainly ANet has yet to figure out the best way to channel their news!

I’ll let you have that jibe / dig :P.

CalamityO.2890:

“please share some constructive ideas about how to improve this”

I’ll bite. Has anyone considered: a separate website. Where all the tutors can put notes, videos etc. On to this website. Make it attractive as possible. Have the GW2 FB mods to link this up from their site. YT channel, clear HD videos. With each one, giving a basic tutorial on dungeons (yes I know your competing with other users that post the same thing) if all the tutors do this on one channel, it makes it more accessible. Visual presentation goes a long way. Have the websites url as your signature. Twitter etc. All this requires time and effort of course.

so you are saying that those of us that spare our time to teach need to pay from our own pockets to made a site to add videos that we record also on our free time to show how to complete simple dungeon paths for those not willing to put in the effort to google “gw2 dungeon mentor” ontop of the DnT guides already out there after every new patch? So instead of people spending some time actually learning to play for themselves they need a video explaining in great detail how to dodge and press 1 to win?

who is going to pay for this when some of us are already paying for TS for people to come on to have a 1 on 1 explanation of how to play as a team. IMO this just sounds like spoon feeding those who are too lazy to put in any effort at all when help is avalable and free.

Scorpion Over Lord.9036:

So you are saying that those of us that spare our time to teach need to pay from our own pockets to made a site to add videos that we record also on our free time to show how to complete simple dungeon paths for those not willing to put in the effort to google “gw2 dungeon mentor” ontop of the DnT guides already out there after every new patch? So instead of people spending some time actually learning to play for themselves they need a video explaining in great detail how to dodge and press 1 to win?

who is going to pay for this when some of us are already paying for TS for people to come on to have a 1 on 1 explanation of how to play as a team. IMO this just sounds like spoon feeding those who are too lazy to put in any effort at all when help is available and free.

You know what, I had a long list of things to say. But meh.

CalamityO.2890:

You know what, I had a long list of things to say. But meh.

Please, do go on, I’m nothing but sheer interest towards constructive criticism :>

You guys are being mean. Mike is somewhat right, the FGS zerk rushes are killing the RP in GW2.

Rp as fire gods. Problem solved.

Oh… didn’t see it that way.

/yay!

:)

Enaretos.8079:

Please, do go on, I’m nothing but sheer interest towards constructive criticism :>

Why I didn’t know you were so interested in neurological thesis Enaretos :P.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

You guys are being mean. Mike is somewhat right, the FGS zerk rushes are killing the RP in GW2.

Q. Does VideogamerMike likes to make a complete idiot out of himself on here??.

I happen to be interested in a lot of things. You wouldn’t begin to know. Meanwhile I’m waiting for said criticism.

Calamity, I honestly don’t feel like you’re the boogie man or the worst poster to come here… but I do think it’s ridiculous how you think we should be doing more.

I mean… I get online on my NA account and I am inundated. Yes. Inundated. With messages. It’s rare that my inbox isn’t full … and I sign in every day. People need help. We are here to help. I don’t even really get to play the game my way when I sign on. Too many people. Too many questions.

It just annoys me. I don’t think you necessarily mean to sound like you do, but when you say we need to do more… well… I just think, maybe you should try what we all do and then see what it feels like to have someone say you aren’t doing enough. It’s hurtful. It’s unnecessary. We all have lives but we dedicate a significant chunk of it to this. Please, at the least, understand that.

Thank you kindly.

Beautiful.

/15cryingcharrs

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Calamity, I honestly don’t feel like you’re the boogie man or the worst poster to come here… but I do think it’s ridiculous how you think we should be doing more.

I mean… I get online on my NA account and I am inundated. Yes. Inundated. With messages. It’s rare that my inbox isn’t full … and I sign in every day. People need help. We are here to help. I don’t even really get to play the game my way when I sign on. Too many people. Too many questions.

It just annoys me. I don’t think you necessarily mean to sound like you do, but when you say we need to do more… well… I just think, maybe you should try what we all do and then see what it feels like to have someone say you aren’t doing enough. It’s hurtful. It’s unnecessary. We all have lives but we dedicate a significant chunk of it to this. Please, at the least, understand that.

Thank you kindly.

Thank you for the kind response Lilith.

I understood right from the very beginning, that quite a number of you are under a lot of stress, pressure. Frustration was very clear to me, when I first posted here. the atmosphere was that thick with it. And to be honest, you guys are doing the best to cope with it – that should be commended. It doesn’t help when posts from other users are berating everyone, saying as to how the community is this and that, if anything it just adds to the already pent up frustration.

How much pressure and stress you guys are under, I will never know. For my part I do apologize to the community, my attitude wasn’t needed or called for. And I do hope they accept it.

When I made them suggestions. It was with good intentions, however like everything I stated, it come across as pretty arrogant and wasn’t needed.
It was intended to offloaded some of the work – just to give you guys some rest bite. But looking back in hindsight, as you said. It will only add more unnecessary work for you guys.

I should have been more considerate, since you guys love playing the game a lot.

Kind regards.

And this folks, is why communication is key. I’ve learned from the renowned Mr. Whisker that words are God.

I appreciate your response, Calamity.

<3

/15cutecharrs

CalamityO.2890:

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Kind regards.

I wasn’t really involved in the discussion but I’d like to thank you for your kind behaviour and insight now, thats some really, really rare occassion on the internet, especially here on these forums.

hendo.1940:

CalamityO.2890:

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Kind regards.

I wasn’t really involved in the discussion but I’d like to thank you for your kind behaviour and insight now, thats some really, really rare occassion on the internet, especially here on these forums.

Can’t agree enough.

Dee Jay.2460:

People play Zerkers because DPS is the only thing that really matters in PvE and, when combined with stacking, the benefits far outweigh the downsides.

It’s a PvE design issue, not a stat-balancing issue.

I agree but stat-balancing is part of PvE design. Of course nerfing around this isn’t the answer, but everyone knows speed runs are driven parties that do enormous amounts of raw damage (even without stacking buffs). The only thing that keeps bosses on their feet are astronomical health bars and invulnerable periods.

Still it’s worth mentioning that there’s no chance of re-designing the entire game to fix the broken foundation that (in PvE) damage is king and it would be far easier to cap power/crit damage and rework conditions so condi builds freaking matter.

We’re still having this discussion….

Don’t join speedruns/zerker only groups without zerker gear. It’s not even L2P, it’s L2R.

And if it’s not specified and people just kicked you because they were jerks, then it has nothing to do with zerker gear.

Yes I know this has been repeated before, but lol, apparently it doesn’t sink in, which probably results in even more kicks.

It’s pretty dumb to change the game just because the cool kids don’t accept you. And because of this stupid whining, Anet nerfed crit damage into ferocity which impacts an unrelated game mode (WvW) making conditions more dominant there and still useless in PvE. I don’t even like dungeoning much, but since this whining effects me elsewhere, hmmph.

I think some fun traits that might help mave some vit or toughness viable, do something like X amount of your toughness is applied to your allies where X is a % of your toughness. Could even do it for empower allies although i suspect that would hurt the healshout warriors…

Must balance this game…

CalamityO.2890:

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Kind regards.

thanks for seeing our side dude, as stated before its rare to see some1 to do that.

now, in regards to your video guide idea, it wasnt completely bad…it would be great if there were full video guides but there lies a few issues which would that a lot of time. 1st is if in any patches they change something in a dungeon or change utilities the guild for a dungeon path changed needs to be redone. Different guilds/mentors use different strategies/group comps so id imagine people ripping apart minor things that still work and achieve the same end goal. These strategies would also then be based on what the person recording it suggests as builds/stat sets. Biggest problem, pugs dont always make good group comps and one cant always be trusted to do what needs to be done.

now if it were to happen juat making a thread here with mentors uploading links of the runs on youtube should be more than enough for those willing to look.

but heres my pure opinion…i loved during my “honeymoon” phase of the game learning how to do dungeons on my different classes and learning to play by experiance not guides. If everyone were to just watch videos instead of actually play wouldnt we be breeding players who can only do what they saw and if it goes bad they just wipe and repeat instead of developing personal play and figuring out ways to win, not kind of seeing it done and half doing it right. Yes, the guides could be really long and involve absolute explanations of every fight, but how is that fun as some1 who is new. I made my own groups in my pvt armor on my necro and i ranged till i was comfortable with different ideas in fights and saw tells of bosses. New players are coming in with those that are comfortable and they feel left out, but they to need to start at the bottom as we did since beta.

its a good idea, just too time consuming in a game that has updates and 8 classes those dungeons could have a pov to show from. Even just a general video could make this easier, but i loved learning myself and i think people should take more pride in experiancing dungeons for them selves in their guilds and with friends. That immersion bro!

if any of the dungeon mentors felt like we should do this id make a plan to upload some more difficult dungeon pugs struggle with. And Lilith is right in saying we get on and need to see to the needs of the many before seeing to our own needs. Im sure Lilith would join me in making a video for those that need it…fasionable asurans only though

I’d make “how to be fashionable” videos.

I was just hanging around on my mesmer and I had a random say: “that light armor combo is the best I have ever seen in this game.”

So true. Top kek.

^ This. We are in dire needs of many more Fashion Mentors.

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

So true. Gold.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

+1

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

Ok that one was nice

Warrior and Mesmer party. So 2012.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

geogyf.5087:

Because it was never the Zerk gear that was OP.

Rangers are required to have Zerk gear and are usually kicked from the Zerk Groups.

If you notice the Zerk groups, you will notice usually only 3 classes.

Warriors & Guardians (zerk gear)
Mesmers (for the aoe invisibility)

You can blame the Zerk gear all you want, but in reality its the
Warrior/Guardian – Zerk combination that is OP

You posted this in the wrong thread, I think you were looking for this one:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Most-Uninformed-Embarassing-Personal-Posts

Back in the day we used to do these dungeons with green-yellow gear and no stack approach,at most we would have temple gear cause karma was falling like rocks back then. Now basically a full ascended zerk warrior can carry an entire group infact they can probably solo most dungeon paths in exo gear , along with many other capable classes

Today only i grouped for ac p1 with 3 up scales under 1 k ap with one of them confessing that it was their first time, 2 guardians who doesn’t know what might staxing is and one ele with no ice-bow let alone fgs but it didn’t matter me and the other ele were more than enuff to have a smooth no wipe run. I probably could have saved a few minutes with a near perfect group, but it was worth it since we not only taught 3 ppl how to do the dungeon but made new friends as well

Those ppl who make requests like gear-check, 7k ap etc. don’t want to help you, they want to carry anyone, they dont trust you at all, they just want a fast and easy run and if you dont meet the requirements dont join them you are wasting everyones time and with the insults and egos flying around your ruining everyone day for a 10 mins dungeon run.

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

Did I just miss an amazingly hilarious “DPS elitists won’t let me RP mid-dungeon” rant? Something about revolver arms too or something, that sounds great.

maxinion.8396:

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

Word.

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

They probably are using clerics gear too, but to not look scrubish, they die faster and blame the person alive so as to not tip off the real berserkers that he is a clerics. Genius. Same as when he pinged his berzerk gear but was wearing the clerics all along. Pure genius!

I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.

Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.

Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.

Seconded.

Bootsy.6458:

I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.

Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.

Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.

^^ I second this notion.

Thanks Wethospu, Dub, Sandy, Sam, Colesy, Cookie, Gabe, Jerem, and all those others I’ve forgotten who have taught me to be a better player than the sorry sentinel ele running 0/0/10/30/30 I used to be.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Bootsy.6458:

I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.

Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.

Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.

^^ I second this notion.

Thanks Wethospu, Dub, Sandy, Sam, Colesy, Cookie, Gabe, Jerem, and all those others I’ve forgotten who have taught me to be a better player than the sorry sentinel ele running 0/0/10/30/30 I used to be.

Whoa sentinel. I was starting with PVT.

I doubt I have ever even played with you :O

Wethospu.6437:

I doubt I have ever even played with you :O

Your guides you silly goose.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Bootsy.6458:

I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.

Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.

Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.

^^ I second this notion.

Thanks Wethospu, Dub, Sandy, Sam, Colesy, Cookie, Gabe, Jerem, and all those others I’ve forgotten who have taught me to be a better player than the sorry sentinel ele running 0/0/10/30/30 I used to be.

I couldn’t find embarrassing posts in the forum (I guess I kept them to myself), but I think I can beat this: my first 80 was my Elementalist; my first exotic set was carrion, with undead runes, and I was running something like 0/0/30/10/30 with written in stone. I remember advising a guildie who was having trouble staying alive as Ele in open-world PvE to go with condition dmg, scepter for earth 1, and kiting …

The forum makes useful reading; thanks folks. :-)

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Bootsy.6458:

I am a new player, but a gaming vet. I am very thankful we have elite players who post up guides and videos on gearing, speed runs so I can study up on trash runs and boss animations, and generally commentary on class rankings and party composition.

Because its not actually any fun to spend 2 hours in a dungeon with a bunch of clueless semi anonymous apes with marginal critical thinking and learning capacity. Ar least by running proper gearing choices and build, with a few select utilities I can feedback some big damage, port them past the jumping puzzle deathtrap and then provide approx 50% of the dps for the bosses – meaning it only takes 35 mins in LFG.

Thank you so called elitists for the resources you provide, to those of us who are paying attention but don’t have a ton of time to theorycraft/test/publish.

^^ I second this notion.

Thanks Wethospu, Dub, Sandy, Sam, Colesy, Cookie, Gabe, Jerem, and all those others I’ve forgotten who have taught me to be a better player than the sorry sentinel ele running 0/0/10/30/30 I used to be.

Good call <3

I want to thank Lilith, laharl, colesy, swifty, Nikaido, Anierna, Sandy, Dub, Sam, Nat, Jerem and many other dear friends in DnT, Daily Dungeons, Team Bible, rT and SC/Define who have welcome me to this community and nurtured me to be a better and more fashionable players. I won’t forget the contribution of figures like Dekeyz, Zelyhn and Wethospu who have shared their wisdom, in the form of guides, to the up and coming dungeon runners. Last but not least, a shout out to all the dungeon forum frequenters who have made my daily visit to this place enjoyable.

wave wave

It is time to bring an old topic back :>

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Elitists-I-ll-honestly-miss-you/first

that thread has colesy posts Q_Q

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