Guild Wars 2

Yes I know and at that time spoj was so nice cuz he didn’t know me <3

awww back when you were a noob, sam! and now you’re teaching the next generation

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

Several reason why :

1) They don’t really know what zerker is meant in that context. They have zerker build but with AH trait or warrior shout, so they lack the dps anyways and can’t really play the full DPS game by stacking at certain place.

2) They don’t really know how to stack. They will destack the boss, they will aggro not at the right moment, or they will stand in place without anyone using blind, aegis, dodge, block, to allow the group to survive some situation. Usually, these people joined several speed run group, but were never the leader and they lack knowledge because there were always someone else that did all these little things wihtout them knowing it. Now if you get 5 of these people together, they will fail and not know how. Since they did the same thing they always do and it usually work, they will blame the non zerker.

3) The group was not really a zerker group. You joined it even if you were not full zerker? Maybe 1 or 2 other people did the same. The leader of the group, which is zerker, use strategy thinking the boss will melt, but the boss hp dropped too slowly, leaving him no chance to survive that long. 1 or 2 Zerker dead, that leave you with a party with really low DPS. Add to that 1 or 2 people trying to rez and the boss receive no damage while he’s bashing you all.

4) In some rare situation, having 1 person non full DPS can make the difference. For exemple, trying to go againt the champion wolf in CoE with no FGS and 4 zerker not that good with their rotation or no might and the 5th become really important if you want to down the champ before it does the second big AoE that will one shot everybody.

But anyway, if the group had 4 good full DPS party member, the fact that the 5th wasn’t full zerker don’t explain the wipe. But it was a easy thing to blame while it was a total lack of respect to join a full zerker group without reaching the requirements.

I am the other way around, if i would have to use pug-tool at any point, i would write no zerker. Why? Because they are more dead then they are alive. One hit and gone they are.

Do my group take 2 min longer on our runs? Probably, but i don’t have to spend the whole time rezzing zerker players or constantly switch to water to keep them alive, so i can totally live with those 2 extra minutes.

Leaa.2943:

I am the other way around, if i would have to use pug-tool at any point, i would write no zerker. Why? Because they are more dead then they are alive. One hit and gone they are.

Do my group take 2 min longer on our runs? Probably, but i don’t have to spend the whole time rezzing zerker players or constantly switch to water to keep them alive, so i can totally live with those 2 extra minutes.

Ahhhh hahaha.

This never gets old!

In a good group of berserker or meta whatevers. .. bosses die too quickly for people to go down. As for water…. I can tell you from experience that even as a full cleric staff water ele, you ain’t doin’ much.

Its like deja vu for me. At launch I was all about healing through blasting my wowter fields

Leaa.2943:

I am the other way around, if i would have to use pug-tool at any point, i would write no zerker. Why? Because they are more dead then they are alive. One hit and gone they are.

Do my group take 2 min longer on our runs? Probably, but i don’t have to spend the whole time rezzing zerker players or constantly switch to water to keep them alive, so i can totally live with those 2 extra minutes.

Completely short sighted. Skill is what keeps people alive, not gear. I routinely join, and carry, “non berserker” PuGs through Arah p4. 95 times out of 100, I’m the last man standing in my paper thin berserker gear, while the tanky, sentinel or cleric guardians, rifle warriors and bearbow rangers are drinking of their own tears on the gravestones of Orr. Gear choice doesn’t mean anything in PuGs. Make your lfg read whatever you may, kick people who don’t read, but do not judge based on gear.

I only skimmed through the 9 pages of posts but a point has to be made.

The problem is not the zerk itself, but rather the one-shot mechanics and above all the Blind, Aegis, DODGE skills in the game, that make defensive gear near redundant.

That said, if you’re not bringing the A dps rate gear, you’re not seeing the reality of things. I’d accept maybe Rampager or Assassins. The other gear has its place, in wvw for example.

Bottom line, don’t hate the player, hate the game. Now about the game, you can day-dream about how the game should be for YOU, or you can work your way surpassing the challenge of the game as is, it’s up to you.

Active damage mitigation is not a “problem”, and one-shot mechanics aren’t as prevalent as you’re making them out to be.

Jacklinger.2908:

When I join these “Zerker” parties, often they get one-shotted by bosses and I’m the only one left standing, then I sometimes solo the boss and they STILL blame me for not being in full zerker gear! It’s like an irony sandwich.

This is gold.

full zerker party shouldn’t be the standard. The fact that it is, shows how bad designed pve is.

PHIW is the standard.

Mesket.5728:

full zerker party shouldn’t be the standard. The fact that it is, shows how bad designed pve is.

Oh, does it?

Max Lexandre.6279:

I really really wish Zerk build to be nerfed, such build really deserves it on PvE.

It’s not fair that it seems there’s only 1 possible build on this game that is acceptable, that is Zerkers.

I and certainly many others on this situation, want to play dungeons with our own builds, without be constantly kicked, insulted and other things because there is too much elitism about this.

For the sake our community health, end this “zerker build master-race”, even Guardians are Zerkers now! Dear lord!

Your line of reasoning is flawed. People tend to gravitate towards optimal setups in mmos. Even if Zerker didn’t exist the next best thing would be the setup of choice and you’d still be kicked for not having that setup. You just happen to hate one particular setup that is the optimal setup of choice. You’d be back here whining all the same about the next best thing if zerker was nerfed to non-existence.

Max Lexandre.6279:

I really really wish Zerk build to be nerfed, such build really deserves it on PvE.

It’s not fair that it seems there’s only 1 possible build on this game that is acceptable, that is Zerkers.

I and certainly many others on this situation, want to play dungeons with our own builds, without be constantly kicked, insulted and other things because there is too much elitism about this.

For the sake our community health, end this “zerker build master-race”, even Guardians are Zerkers now! Dear lord!

No way, man. Zerk build already got a nerf a month ago. If I want a fast run I explicitly state “Zerk Warr Fast Run”. Otherwise, everyone is welcome.