Guild Wars 2

hey guys

just want to ask a stupid question. we all know if complete 1 part of dungeon you got 60 token. as WIKI said “Completing the path again with a different character will grant the full reward again. Completing one path does not affect the reward from other paths; as such, it is possible to acquire 180 tokens per day per character, from each dungeon without any penalty.”
i used to run the same dungeon by using different character, why sometimes i only got 30 token?
how they define 60 token each day? i live in australia. is it calculate by US time from 12am to 12pm or calculate by the first run dungeon character in 24hours?

i used 2 character run in same dungeon yesterday. got 120 token (from 9pm~12am AU time). if i want to get another 120 token by using 2 character in same run, should i start running a bit later then the time i run yesterday?

Thank you

The wiki is wrong. Changing characters wont reset the penalty because its tied to your account. You shouldn’t get 30 as well. Its 60>20>10>10>5>5>5>5….(for each unique path per day)

The “day” resets at the same time as your daily, so you dont have to wait 24 hours (although some nodes and chests actually need 24 hours to reset). I dont know how they know the local time but its quite accurate because it has never failed to reset every night.

thank you for your reply.. for changing character can reset the penalty its real. i just try it last night. same dungeon by using different character can really get 60 token again . but i just don’t understand y i will get 30 token sometime? ( i do get 30 token sometimes by using other character run second time) don’t really know how it work.

Also mate, the dungeon can be done again in the same day for 60 tokens. Dungeon DR applies for a character who has done the path in the same daily cycle only. However ANET also has a 2 hour account based Dungeon DR after which if you take a different character for the same path you will receive 60 tokens.

I am an alt-a-holic and have 5 fully leveled characters, 3 of which are dungeon worthy.
I used to do AC 1-2-3 before the rehaul on two or so of them earning around 400 tokens a day (then I realized it wasn’t really alot of fun).

hey man. thats what i understand. and that was before the patch come out. i used to used 3 character running the same dungeon and every character getting 60 token. but after the new patch something change. some times getting 60token for the second character and some times getting 30 token. want to know where the 30 token comes from?

Its not 30 tokens, its 20. The other “10” are no doubt coming from your boss reward bags, as the game often gives extra tokens this way.

Orion the Cursed.1206:

The wiki is wrong. Changing characters wont reset the penalty because its tied to your account. You shouldn’t get 30 as well. Its 60>20>10>10>5>5>5>5….(for each unique path per day)

The “day” resets at the same time as your daily, so you dont have to wait 24 hours (although some nodes and chests actually need 24 hours to reset). I dont know how they know the local time but its quite accurate because it has never failed to reset every night.

Lexandro.1456:

Its not 30 tokens, its 20. The other “10” are no doubt coming from your boss reward bags, as the game often gives extra tokens this way.

you gentlemen both deserve punch in the face. for spreading false information.

normal dungeon reward is 20. 40 is daily bonus which is character bound per dungeon path, not account bound.

you can get 30 tokens when dungeon DR is in effect. e.g. repeating same dungeon path with alt which hasn’t done it yet to get daily path bonus. so he should get 60, but because of DR gets half. you can get even 15 if you are in heavy dungeon DR.

dunno if there were any changes to dungeon DR recently, but it used to be applied only if you rerun same path few times within 2 hours, or complete a lot of dungeon runs in last 2 hours.

tl;dr;
dungeon DR is account bound.
dungeon path daily bonus is character bound.

Since when did they change it so you get 60-20-10-5-5-5-5. . . . tokens. I have NEVER received 5 tokens from a run until yesterday. WHY?

Lexandro.1456:

Its not 30 tokens, its 20. The other “10” are no doubt coming from your boss reward bags, as the game often gives extra tokens this way.

I’m so tired of seeing this. It is completely wrong, and is helping to shove this issue under the carpet. On some runs on an alt, the final rewards are 30, NOT 20/60 (the two other numbers being thrown around as what should be expected), and then after going another alt it can go back up to 60 tokens. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Edit: I’ll screenshot it the next time this happens and post it here, but my guild and I have not been able to reliably figure out why this happens, so I don’t know the next time I’ll be able to get a screen.

In AUS the daily reset occurs 10am if you are in a state without daylight saving or 11am with daylight saving (reverts to 10am when daylight saving ends).

The daily bonus is not account wide but character wide so you CAN repeat the same path during the same day. The base reward is 20 and the daily bonus grants an extra 40 = the 60 you can expect. Repeating the same path with the same character in one day will give you only the 20 base tokens but the silver and karma rewards are unaffected.

However, diminishing returns can occur if you complete the path again too quickly (time unknown since the DR alleviation patch) and this kicks in regardless of daily bonus and halves your rewards – silver and karma included – for each tier of DR hence you receive the 30.

Look at the silver/karma and you should be able to distinguish whether you were hit by DR.

zencow.3651:

In AUS the daily reset occurs 10am if you are in a state without daylight saving or 11am with daylight saving (reverts to 10am when daylight saving ends).

The daily bonus is not account wide but character wide so you CAN repeat the same path during the same day. The base reward is 20 and the daily bonus grants an extra 40 = the 60 you can expect. Repeating the same path with the same character in one day will give you only the 20 base tokens but the silver and karma rewards are unaffected.

However, diminishing returns can occur if you complete the path again too quickly (time unknown since the DR alleviation patch) and this kicks in regardless of daily bonus and halves your rewards – silver and karma included – for each tier of DR hence you receive the 30.

Look at the silver/karma and you should be able to distinguish whether you were hit by DR.

And yet this doesn’t explain why sometimes when I run with guildies, when none of us have done a dungeon in over 24 hours, will all get 60 the first run, all switch to alts, then some get 30 and some get 60, and then the next round all get 60 again.

If it’s DR, then DR isn’t working properly (shocking, I know).

It’s obviously DR. What path were you running? CoF1?

The simple way to avoid it is to run the other paths of the dungeon before repeating that path on an alt. This is why the more experienced farm groups do CoF1&2 and change alts to avoid DR completely.

DR works differently than it did before, the old DR rules penalized you for running more than 4 paths in 2 hrs and if you ran the same path within 2 hrs. Whatever the new rules are it’s seriously much more generous than it was.

thanks to all your information.. the Dungon DR happen on the time when i run COF P1 everyday. (got 30 token) which its find.
the thing i worry about its. cause i start run arah p2 these day. i may get 30 token in second run.. after 2 hrs
i try these day. i still can get 60 token in second run with different character. could be as you guys say “within 2 hrs.” problem solved.
thank you