Guild Wars 2

left a guild recently and do more and more raids from LFG squads

let me open with saying my characters perfectly best geared, 2 sets of legy armor, running dps meters, etc etc, and can notice when people doing good or bad

and yes, from time to time just for fun, i see some bully LFG raid commanders find it funny kicking people when raid boss is on 2%, just to prevent them from loot.
i saw it happening at least 4 times when i am in the squad.
it always comes with “HAHA” and “lol” from those commanders.

by far worse than kicking a player before starting the boss,
kicking a player who did great job but he “looked funny” to the commander just before the boss dead

i suggest just not allow “kick” option in raid type squads if ALL members are in combat.

Never happened to me in pugs before.
Usually bosses will reset if you kick people out of the squad manually during the fight but maybe that won’t work for all of them.

Don’t forget to /report such instances (ideally, via a support ticket, so you can include an explanation). Even if ANet decided today that this was worth preventing via an updated mechanic, it would be months and months before it was in the game.

It would be nice to see some sort of protection for people who participated in most of the raid. I’m not sure if “no kicking while in combat” is the right choice or if there should be some sort of participation requirement to get loot… or something more creative.

no kicking while in combat would be fine since you cant keep being in combat without dying in raids.

Vinceman.4572:

Never happened to me in pugs before.
Usually bosses will reset if you kick people out of the squad manually during the fight but maybe that won’t work for all of them.

I thought it was only when the instance opener was kicked/left that this happened?

One of my guild mates experienced this in a pug about a week ago. That commander was a bit slow though and because of autoloot, he still got the reward for his work.

I asked him what his part was in this and he replied that, at some point of the raid, he asked the commander via whisper why he kept dying (he basically questioned the comander’s skills at raiding, but not shaming him in public. I’m sure everybody else noticed the commander dying anyway. Apparently, the commander took that as an affront and decided to punish my guild mate at the end of the raid.

I think if this keeps getting reported by victims and posted here, people will be less likely to join pugs, and raiding will become even more exclusive as it is now. I wouldn’t like an atmosphere where you have to fear to be kicked shortly before the boss dies if one person feels like punishing you, no matter how well you did your part in the raid.

How does it work in other games, can people do such things? Also, what about people joining parties, then tagging up and disband the party? I think something needs to happen to how parties/squads work. The other day someone was joining fractal groups and kicking the whole team out and there was nothing you could do about it unless you had someone with a commander tag in your group already.

One person cant join a fractal group and kick the rest out mate, the others in the group have to agree.

Linken.6345:

One person cant join a fractal group and kick the rest out mate, the others in the group have to agree.

There is an exploit that allows people to kick the whole group out of the fractal.

I been trying every single day to get into a Raid nobody will help i get kicked for nothing and now i cannot get any better armour !

So that makes you a bit less.. perfect?

Too bad, not fun for you. It’s probably best to join a raid training guild if you’re new to raiding, look for them in the ‘looking for’ subforum or on reddit. You can also join raid training runs in the LFG in game.

power abusers in LFG. pugs are horrible and cancerous in general. the pve community likes to abuse power when they’re at fault.

ThePerfectOne.4526:

I been trying every single day to get into a Raid nobody will help i get kicked for nothing and now i cannot get any better armour !

Your problem is thinking raids is the path to better armor in the first place. I’d kick you too with that attitude.

FrostDraco.8306:

ThePerfectOne.4526:

I been trying every single day to get into a Raid nobody will help i get kicked for nothing and now i cannot get any better armour !

Your problem is thinking raids is the path to better armor in the first place. I’d kick you too with that attitude.

Correct me if i’m wrong, but aren’t legendary armor sets Raid Locked? That’s like saying you can craft a legendary without doing WvW…

Legendary armor, in terms of stats, are the same as ascended. Fractals and crafting are, in my opinion, an easier way to get ascended than raids. Legendary equipment only offers the convenience of a free stat swap at your leisure and whim. You can stat swap ascended armor and weapons at a cost at the mystic forge.

Crey.5263:

FrostDraco.8306:

ThePerfectOne.4526:

I been trying every single day to get into a Raid nobody will help i get kicked for nothing and now i cannot get any better armour !

Your problem is thinking raids is the path to better armor in the first place. I’d kick you too with that attitude.

Correct me if i’m wrong, but aren’t legendary armor sets Raid Locked? That’s like saying you can craft a legendary without doing WvW…

but you can, i mean havent you been playing for at least 2 years and didnt you get 10 gifts of battle from your achievement chest badges of honor before they changed it to a reward track? whats the problem here? who even knows what wvw stands for??

Gaile Gray.6029:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Don’t forget to /report such instances (ideally, via a support ticket, so you can include an explanation).

Yes, please. Gamelogs are not the be-all and end-all of knowledge, but reporting is a good idea and it may result in action on those who are misbehaving.

Yo this is somewhat a question on the matter for the raid/ fractals team. In wow if you for what ever reason leave the instnace (either dc or get kicked bfore the boss dying) you are sent an email with the loot you missed.

Ofc this works like the hearts in the legendary armor colection and only mail you your loot if you had a fair participation in the kill. Is there any chance this could be implemented in raids and fractals?

Sephylon.4938:

Legendary armor, in terms of stats, are the same as ascended. Fractals and crafting are, in my opinion, an easier way to get ascended than raids. Legendary equipment only offers the convenience of a free stat swap at your leisure and whim. You can stat swap ascended armor and weapons at a cost at the mystic forge.

At a cost, losing the runes, and you need an access to the forge (which often can not be so easy).
Try to disassemble as much as you want, but the truth remains, that legendary armor is not only a gear from a separate tier, offering valuable utility. It’s also the only such armor in the game. As such, it shouldn’t be locked behind a single side content aimed for a minority of players.

At the moment, it’s not just the “raid armor”. It’s primarily the “gw2 legendary armor”.