Guild Wars 2

I was looking at the metabattle build for support power (http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Berserker_-_Support_Power) and was wondering why the sigil of strength was on the mace and not the GS when I’d be having my GS out more than the mace.
(I’m pretty new to raiding)

The reason the strength sigil is not on the great sword is simply because it’s not needed. On great sword you already generate might on critical hit and with golden fried dumplings you have a chance to generate another stack on each critical hit. With that a bit of boon duration and a consistent moderate to high hit rate you maintain 25 might. So putting a strength sigil on the weapon only lowers dps for no real benefit.

The Sigil of Strength on the mace is put there because you don’t benefit from the greatswordtrait anymore. There is a trait in the strength traitline that grants might on critical hits with GS. That is also the main source of might for the power PS. If you can’t use the trait (while on CC weapons) you need another source of might so that the mightstacks of the group don’t drop too much. On the GS you technically don’t need it.

Thanks for the answer and clearing this up for me

Wouldn’t it be better to use a sigil of concentration instead of paralysation on the mace?

Condition PS warriors can’t maintain might as well as greatsword warriors do, so I would imagine that when using M/Shield, the might stacks drop a bit.

Generally with 10 people you’re not going to be running into massive break bar issues, so wouldn’t the extra might duration from a sigil of concentration be better?

Eponet.4829:

Wouldn’t it be better to use a sigil of concentration instead of paralysation on the mace?

Condition PS warriors can’t maintain might as well as greatsword warriors do, so I would imagine that when using M/Shield, the might stacks drop a bit.

Generally with 10 people you’re not going to be running into massive break bar issues, so wouldn’t the extra might duration from a sigil of concentration be better?

You would be getting 33% extra boon duration exactly when you are less able to stack might. The drop in might comes from the stacks from your gs wearing off while you are not able to reapply them quickly. Having might stacks from your mace last longer doesn’t affect how often you can apply those stacks. The point the concentration sigil would become useful is when the might stacks you applied while under the effects of the sigil start to end, however this is the same time that you would be swapping back to gs and spiking over the cap anyway. Thus you don’t get much from the concentration sigil.

I agree that you shouldn’t hit break issues with 10 people, which is why I put a force sigil in my mace. You get a bit extra damage for those few autoattacks.

Fluffy.1932:

Eponet.4829:

Wouldn’t it be better to use a sigil of concentration instead of paralysation on the mace?

Condition PS warriors can’t maintain might as well as greatsword warriors do, so I would imagine that when using M/Shield, the might stacks drop a bit.

Generally with 10 people you’re not going to be running into massive break bar issues, so wouldn’t the extra might duration from a sigil of concentration be better?

You would be getting 33% extra boon duration exactly when you are less able to stack might. The drop in might comes from the stacks from your gs wearing off while you are not able to reapply them quickly. Having might stacks from your mace last longer doesn’t affect how often you can apply those stacks. The point the concentration sigil would become useful is when the might stacks you applied while under the effects of the sigil start to end, however this is the same time that you would be swapping back to gs and spiking over the cap anyway. Thus you don’t get much from the concentration sigil.

I agree that you shouldn’t hit break issues with 10 people, which is why I put a force sigil in my mace. You get a bit extra damage for those few autoattacks.

Fair point. What about a Sigil of Battle then?

The 2 stacks from it would last until weapon swapping back to the greatsword becomes available again, and then for a few seconds after while you ramp back up.

Eponet.4829:

Fluffy.1932:

Eponet.4829:

Wouldn’t it be better to use a sigil of concentration instead of paralysation on the mace?

Condition PS warriors can’t maintain might as well as greatsword warriors do, so I would imagine that when using M/Shield, the might stacks drop a bit.

Generally with 10 people you’re not going to be running into massive break bar issues, so wouldn’t the extra might duration from a sigil of concentration be better?

You would be getting 33% extra boon duration exactly when you are less able to stack might. The drop in might comes from the stacks from your gs wearing off while you are not able to reapply them quickly. Having might stacks from your mace last longer doesn’t affect how often you can apply those stacks. The point the concentration sigil would become useful is when the might stacks you applied while under the effects of the sigil start to end, however this is the same time that you would be swapping back to gs and spiking over the cap anyway. Thus you don’t get much from the concentration sigil.

I agree that you shouldn’t hit break issues with 10 people, which is why I put a force sigil in my mace. You get a bit extra damage for those few autoattacks.

Fair point. What about a Sigil of Battle then?

The 2 stacks from it would last until weapon swapping back to the greatsword becomes available again, and then for a few seconds after while you ramp back up.

the might stacks spread to your party would still only be lasting ~8s (depending on boon duration).

The para sigil is kinda nice for when your squad has break bar issues for whatever reason ( they honestly shouldn’t but if the squad comp has a shortage of BB skills..) or just making or just breaking it faster. Which is never a bad thing..