Guild Wars 2

Title says it all. Just curious how groups are doing this. Found this as a resource and been using it.

http://gamerize.net/how-to-beat-vale-guardian-guide-spirit-vale-raid-guild-wars-2/

Mostly pugs, but am trying to keep it organized. Have people ping gear, check stats (beserker for zerkers, viper/sinister for condi, no one has to much toughness etc) have food etc.

Our best attempts kept only getting him to about 50% or less, maybe 40%.

Is it a dps execution thing? Tank would kite boss around, melee attack behind it, range get in the static fields so melee don’t have to run to them and lose dps. During the split phases we are using the guides example (or close to). Something else I’m missing?

Or is it just not truly puggable atm and need all 10 people to be full ascended? Also while not necessary a fan of dps meters in other games and the community that breeds, I am curious how can you tell if someone is definitely not pulling their weight without them in this type of situation.

ps: i love a challenge and hardcore content, so not whining. I’m very happy with these changes. Just curious if I’m missing anything.

I don’t know. I’m sure there will be pugs who complete it eventually but I think the Raids should be done in fill organized group with voice cordination.
Its easier if you have access to voice chat.

There are few post where people are trying to form Raid parties.
If you are too kitteno talk you can always just listen it still helps a lot.

It is puggable as one such group beat it earlier this week.

There’s been a few PUG guardian kills, the problem is it’s very annoying to get a group going without proper LFG support. The squad system is very janky.

I don’t have this problem as I’m in a raid guild but I feel for people.

Ayrilana.1396:

It is puggable as one such group beat it earlier this week.

Clearing the first encounter doesnt mean the raids are PuGable

Nephziel.6053:

Ayrilana.1396:

It is puggable as one such group beat it earlier this week.

Clearing the first encounter doesnt mean the raids are PuGable

I never said they were. This thread is about Vale Guardian. The pug group beat Vale Guardian.

I also wasn’t responding to you which may be the reason for the confusion.

Thanks for the replies guys. Still wondering if its a gear check and everyone needs full ascended (mathematically 5% dps increase times 10 people is 50% increase) or if its just people slacking off and exotics are possible? Also any way to check/find out who’s not pulling their weight?

Chrono.6928:

Thanks for the replies guys. Still wondering if its a gear check and everyone needs full ascended (mathematically 5% dps increase times 10 people is 50% increase) or if its just people slacking off and exotics are possible? Also any way to check/find out who’s not pulling their weight?

A 5% DPS increase for all 10 people is still a 5% DPS increase for the group.

Think of it this way: if Anet nerfed damage by 12%, would we all be dealing negative damage in raids?

Ayrilana.1396:

Chrono.6928:

Thanks for the replies guys. Still wondering if its a gear check and everyone needs full ascended (mathematically 5% dps increase times 10 people is 50% increase) or if its just people slacking off and exotics are possible? Also any way to check/find out who’s not pulling their weight?

A 5% DPS increase for all 10 people is still a 5% DPS increase for the group.

Just double checked the math. If everyone is doing 100 dps, and you increase yours 5% to 105 dps, then that’s 1,005 dps. 1005 / 10 = 100.5 dps so a .5% dps increase. Seems like you’re right

So while I’m sure it doesn’t hurt and may help if you are pushing the boss till the last 5-10% of its hp, don’t think ascended is the answer if my pugs are getting it to 40-50%. Even if a player coughed up a few hundred gold or more to get full ascended at .5% increase it would barely change a thing if even noticable at all.