Guild Wars 2

Can someone explain to me why a level 80 warrior would need to run a level 35 dungeon in clerics? I was doing AC p1, which is pretty easy IMO, and was in a PUG with all warriors, but I was 1 of 2 running full zerk. The other one said they needed to swap out theirs for valk gear cause they kept dying…Please explain why you would use clerics gear. The guy with 25 stacks has 25 stacks of HEALING!! WTKitten?!

They’re just terribad players. At this point, you either keep them around for some amusement and/or daily reviver achievement, or just boot them. You should already know what kind of skill quality to expect from the type of armor they wear, so if you’re surprised that they suck, it’s kinda your fault.

Huh. I could see an Ele, Guardian or Engineer running Cleric’s, but a Warrior? Then again, I’d be in favour of ANet making it so a healshout Warrior is just as viable as a Zerk one. (If a bit weird to see in action. XD)

You’ll be seeing this a lot more once more people get Ascended gear. People simply won’t have a second set of gear to switch to (and these people won’t have exotic alternate sets because no one wants to feel like they’re “downgrading”). Currently, at least some people have alternate exotic zerker sets.

anything running clerics = kick in dungeons, but a warrior..

I would guess that they may come from the WvW zerg crowd and have no idea about the differences between the 2 environments. Same problem w/ so-so players w/ zerk gears in PvE trying to roam w/a small group in WvW.

Saw a warrior drop a banner of tactics the other day in AC. At least he switched to discipline when asked, but that was solid.

I only get booted when I’m running my clerics venom share healer spec thief when pug guardians realize I’m out healing them. #jealous #newhealskillop

I always leave when i see players trying to play tank in pve just a waste of time.

Wait we shouldn’t bring full cleric to AC? But all my healing power keeps my teammates alive!

Eh,
I can’t blame a newbie for not automatically knowing something so unintuitive-slash-depressing as the game’s direct damage problems, and I can’t find it in me to hold boredom against a veteran.

If I could manage to swallow my sense of guilt on a more regular basis, I’d be prancing around in something else too. If you’ve done any real exploration in non-DPS and non-Berserker builds, there really is alot of interesting gameplay out there. It’s just, you know, tragically irrelevant.

Try to explain to me why they don’t just remove any other stats different from zerker, as they keep making their game only insane-dps oriented…they could spare lots of time and efforts.

Pip.2094:

Try to explain to me why they don’t just remove any other stats different from zerker, as they keep making their game only insane-dps oriented…they could spare lots of time and efforts.

WvW and PvP?

So I tried running this again today. Posted an LFG for 80 zerkers for all 3 AC paths, 10 minutes of waiting andI had a level 64 ranger join then leave, had an 80 warrior join then leave, and that was it. Changed the post to no clerics or soldiers gear, 10 minutes…nothing. Joined a PUG, got a pug with 2 other warriors, a ranger, and an ele. We wiped at spider queen, the ranger pet (which was a dog or a fox) was wandering around doing who knows what which may have led to the wipe. The ele got killed even before that due to “lag” and i noticed that one of the warriors was running sigil of sanctuary. In case you didn’t know, thats the sigil that gives you invuln for 5 seconds on the 26th stack. Do people just figure, “oh I’m just gonna go into the dungeon and do whatever”? Play how you want, but come on, google “gw2 dungeon [your class] build” and take some pointers. Don’t screw your team cause you “play how you want”. You don’t need invuln, super heals, or tankiness if you whole zerk team gets together, shuffles some skills around and kills bosses in 15 seconds. Your own heal+dodging should be able to get you through 15 seconds. Please, someone give me a reasonable, rational explanation for running clerics or now sigil of sanctuary. Convince me, and maybe I will buy a set of gear, FROM YOU!

Why would you run cleric’s in AC?

Clearly all the answers lie in this thread, filled with wisdom.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/The-truth-about-clerics-gear-in-pve/first#post3358625

swiftpaw.6397:

Why would you run cleric’s in AC?

Clearly all the answers lie in this thread, filled with wisdom.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/The-truth-about-clerics-gear-in-pve/first#post3358625

Are your eyelids okay now?

They will never recover fully. T_T

maxinion.8396:

Saw a warrior drop a banner of tactics the other day in AC. At least he switched to discipline when asked, but that was solid.

I saw a warrior drop a banner of tactics in cof p1 this morning.. He did not switch to discipline when asked by another party member (although granted, the request was not exactly politely phrased).

People will obviously play whatever they enjoy, so you have 3 options:

1 - Do guild runs.
2 - Deal with it.
3 - Deal with it.

People who play how they want have 3 options.

1.) Play with similar people who don’t care if their time is wasted.
2.) Deal with people who hate them for wasting their time
3.) Deal with people who hate them for wasting their time.

Everything is in balance then.

Erebus.9276:

I only get booted when I’m running my clerics venom share healer spec thief when pug guardians realize I’m out healing them. #jealous #newhealskillop

lol hilarious, cleric thief so OP

SkyChef.5432:

I would guess that they may come from the WvW zerg crowd and have no idea about the differences between the 2 environments. Same problem w/ so-so players w/ zerk gears in PvE trying to roam w/a small group in WvW.

That’s why probably.
It makes sense tho. A lot of people don’t care about PvE/dungeons enough to get a different set of armor/weapons/sigils/runes but they still wanna run it for tokens/gold.
Just like some PvErs jump in WvW zerg with zerker gear being rally bots.

About the OP, at least those guys didn’t join your “zerker only” party. The only thing I truly hate about soliders/clerics is when they join speedruns to leech everyone else.

reconzero.8310:

Can someone explain to me why a level 80 warrior would need to run a level 35 dungeon in clerics? I was doing AC p1, which is pretty easy IMO, and was in a PUG with all warriors, but I was 1 of 2 running full zerk. The other one said they needed to swap out theirs for valk gear cause they kept dying…Please explain why you would use clerics gear. The guy with 25 stacks has 25 stacks of HEALING!! WTKitten?!

I may be misreading here but valk (Valkyrie gear) doesn’t have any healing power in it in fact it is power, vitality, crit damage.

Probably for the challenge. Practicing for the solo healshout war lupi solo

If you want to play with like-minded people in PUG’s, here’s what you do:

1) Get friends and guildies that know how to speed clear. This is the best way to ensure a good party.

2) If you need to pug, do your best to bring at least 1 other speed clear buddy with you so that you have “party power”.

3) Use the LFG tool and state what you’re looking for. Screen people by having them ping their gear. For example: Zerker/Ping Gear/All Paths

Most of the time, people know not to join parties that are this specific. You will attract people that have nothing to hide and will gladly show you their (most of the time) zerker gear. You do get people that don’t read from time to time, but you can easily remove them.

It’s sometimes a PITA to screen people, but the dis-utility from wiping is higher than the dis-utility of waiting a couple more minutes.

reconzero.8310:

Can someone explain to me why a level 80 warrior would need to run a level 35 dungeon in clerics? I was doing AC p1, which is pretty easy IMO, and was in a PUG with all warriors, but I was 1 of 2 running full zerk. The other one said they needed to swap out theirs for valk gear cause they kept dying…Please explain why you would use clerics gear. The guy with 25 stacks has 25 stacks of HEALING!! WTKitten?!

I only run a guardian in full magi gear when it is late and it becomes time consuming to find decent players for dungeons, when that happens I switch to my magi gear and party with the terribads to keep them alive while they try their best :P

reconzero.8310:

So I tried running this again today. Posted an LFG for 80 zerkers for all 3 AC paths, 10 minutes of waiting andI had a level 64 ranger join then leave, had an 80 warrior join then leave, and that was it. Changed the post to no clerics or soldiers gear, 10 minutes…nothing. Joined a PUG, got a pug with 2 other warriors, a ranger, and an ele. We wiped at spider queen, the ranger pet (which was a dog or a fox) was wandering around doing who knows what which may have led to the wipe. The ele got killed even before that due to “lag” and i noticed that one of the warriors was running sigil of sanctuary. In case you didn’t know, thats the sigil that gives you invuln for 5 seconds on the 26th stack. Do people just figure, “oh I’m just gonna go into the dungeon and do whatever”? Play how you want, but come on, google “gw2 dungeon [your class] build” and take some pointers. Don’t screw your team cause you “play how you want”. You don’t need invuln, super heals, or tankiness if you whole zerk team gets together, shuffles some skills around and kills bosses in 15 seconds. Your own heal+dodging should be able to get you through 15 seconds. Please, someone give me a reasonable, rational explanation for running clerics or now sigil of sanctuary. Convince me, and maybe I will buy a set of gear, FROM YOU!

You can run AC naked. As long as mechanics are understood gear doesn’t matter in AC. Any team with titles like “zerk only” or “no noobs” in easy dungeons like AC I avoid like the plague. It just indicates to me that the person running it has attitude issues and that’s not someone I’d want to team with nor would I want to team with the type of people that join those teams.

And it seems like based on your example a lot of people share my opinion or else your team wouldn’t be waiting forever to get players only to fail.

Respect and cooperation goes a long way.

Erebus.9276:

I only get booted when I’m running my clerics venom share healer spec thief when pug guardians realize I’m out healing them. #jealous #newhealskillop

I’d kick you too, damage suffering because the group running 2 supports, and guardians who can blind 6 times (on my own damage guard I run multiple blinds on weapons… and F1 blind resets every time you kill some thing, all aoe blinds) and have blocks for your team are defo way more useful then a thief who does no damage but provides a little healing.

I can actually clear any dungeon path with people of any class, any trait build, gear set up, and weapon choice of their choosing. So I don’t even care how someone else in the group sets up their character because I know we’ll finish the run anyway. But that’s just me.

Hot Boy.7138:

I can actually clear any dungeon path with people of any class, any trait build, gear set up, and weapon choice of their choosing. So I don’t even care how someone else in the group sets up their character because I know we’ll finish the run anyway. But that’s just me.

Very noble. I guess after you do a dungeon hundreds of time. You begin to start enjoy having it take 10 minutes instead of 20. And in the case of arah 15 minutes instead of 30. Not all of us have 5 hours to do our dungeon rotations.

In AC I don’t care as long as you are 80. The only reason AC is lvl 35 was to nerf the ecto drop from tokens. Same with the other sub lvl 68 dungeons.

maybe it was Chris Whiteside you were playing with?

“I play a PVT AOE Heal shout War. I have played this role fora long period of time and have never played a DPS War. On top of this I am also easily able to hold agro and support my group. My DPS is terrible but I keep my team alive while they run around destroying everything”

(This is from the current CDI thread in General Discussion.)

I seriously wonder at all the people (belive me i wanted to use term that goes with “Beavis”) that post in this thread about “non lvl 80, non zerk dungeon runners”.

I did half of levels from lvl 37 – 80 on my thief, that was both zerk specced and at times more shadow arts and trickery specced. Didn’t stop me from defending Hodgins in path 1 (i simply stealthed us both and kept it up as long as possible), or giving team serious mights for burrows (given team was smart enough to listen to my request for fire combo field)

Warrior running around in clerics is nothing shocking to me. By playing my warrior i can easily say he has much more potent self heals then my guardian, and unlike guardian putting lots into healing power (given warrior’s vitality is massive and healing that matters without using 4+ hp restoring skills at once) seems to pay off for those warriors who are not masters of dodging. Also warrior is a boon machine in it’s own regard, especially when it comes to swiftness, might stacks and fury. Popping a healing and boon duration increasing banner is nothing surprising here.

I would be glad to see that there’s a warrior who realizes that he’s “not there yet” and chooses to have lame damage but enough sustain to land some blows, rather then “true zerker” that 10 seconds into boss fight zerks from 3 feet below.

Last time i checked people bought Guild Wars 2 not Zerk Warrior Wars 2, and they are to enjoy all classes in all the ways they like.

Lord Kuru.3685:

maybe it was Chris Whiteside you were playing with?

“I play a PVT AOE Heal shout War. I have played this role fora long period of time and have never played a DPS War. On top of this I am also easily able to hold agro and support my group. My DPS is terrible but I keep my team alive while they run around destroying everything”

(This is from the current CDI thread in General Discussion.)

+1’d post and I encourage others to do the same

He wasted your precious time and you found time to come here and make a post about it so all your little friends can come here and reasure you that you are indeed awesome. If only your time had not been wasted you could have spent that time working on your clean endless energy machine or your cure for cancer. We should all be up in arms over this cleric warrior because he as kittened us all. Now we are all deprived of clean energy and the end of disease.