This is a technical question for the game developers: It is a fact, as you can see on my statistics on the image, that you can exceed 100% Critical Chance.
My logic tells me that the logical effect of this would be that one attack have 100% chance to Crit, and in my case, another 19% chance to double Crit.
However, I am not confident this is the case, and the other players I’ve been talking with in game, does not share this logic. they believe the exceeding 19% is a mere waist.
However, due to the possibility to exceed 100%, I believe there must be a purpose for it. And if there is not, then why is it possible at all? Is this, or is it not, a bug? And in case it isn’t a bug, what does it do?
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Have you seen anywhere something that says double-crit ? Have you ever seen that
any of your crits does double damage ?
You get a double-crit if you ferocity is enogh to reach 100% crit damage, with 150% crit damage you get triple-crits.
A 100% chance however can not get higher .. you always crit 100% or 1000% .. its the same.
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
How did you get 119 critical chance? EDIT: Nevermind, apparently a Warrior can build for 119% precision. 98% in Berserker if you squeeze the last bit of stats and don’t ever use a signet.
Why would “your logic tell you” that it would “double crit” lol?
100% = 1.
200% = 2.
Because math.
And no, i have not seen anywhere say double crit. But then again, I have not seen anywhere say crit either. Neither have you for that matter, I simply see a number displaying damage. Like the rest of you do.
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at least, according to another player… either give me your source of information, or leave it to the admins to answer. okay?
I appropriate you taking your time to reply. But no offense, I cant use it for anything unless you can back it up with some harder facts than your words…
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at least, according to another player… either give me your source of information, or leave it to the admins to answer. okay?
I appropriate you taking your time to reply. But no offense, I cant use it for anything unless you can back it up with some harder facts than your words…
Admins will not necessarily know any more about the game mechanics than a player. Some developers may not know the inner workings more than some players.
Nothing can have a chance to occur greater than 100%.
But feel free to continue to stack to 119%. Having big numbers on your character sheet can be fun.
Why would “your logic tell you” that it would “double crit” lol?
100% = 1.
200% = 2.
Because math.
And no, i have not seen anywhere say double crit. But then again, I have not seen anywhere say crit either. Neither have you for that matter, I simply see a number displaying damage. Like the rest of you do.
That’s not how math works. Percentages are just statistical representations of data sets. When you perform an attack, discounting misses, glances, and whatnot, it can either be a normal hit or a critical hit. If you make 1000 attacks, you can’t end up with 1190 crits.
at least, according to another player… either give me your source of information, or leave it to the admins to answer. okay?
I appropriate you taking your time to reply. But no offense, I cant use it for anything unless you can back it up with some harder facts than your words…
Admins will not necessarily know any more about the game mechanics than a player. Some developers may not know the inner workings more than some players.
Nothing can have a chance to occur greater than 100%.
But feel free to continue to stack to 119%. Having big numbers on your character sheet can be fun.
No, the admins probably don’t know, but they will know whom to ask. And thus I’m appealing to the people that Know about it to take their time to tell about it. :P
(It’s not really because I’m stacking up on it really. If I wanted to do that I surely wouldn’t go for a berserk armor, but rather for an assassin’s armor… I just noticed this happens whenever i use “become the wolf” and I’m curious about the mechanics)
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Besides the link I provided, the wiki also have all the formulas to calculate damage, crit chance and everything. IF the game had a mechanic where over 100% crit chance would add bonus damage of some sort it would be described there, but the game just use the crit chance to calculate if the hit will be a crit or not, from 100% and beyond the answer will be always “yes”.
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If i trusted the wiki, I would not be on the forum.
Nothing against those putting so much effort into the wiki, but gotta agree with this. A wiki, IMO, is a good place to start, but not so much a place for a final answer.
If so many people tell you that it’s capped at 100%, the chance that they are right is pretty high. I’d say about 53%. The chance that a dev will answer is certainly lower than that.
If so many people tell you that it’s capped at 100%, the chance that they are right is pretty high. I’d say about 53%. The chance that a dev will answer is certainly lower than that.
53% however has tripple chance to backfire and thats why it only a 20% chance .. i think ..
EVERY MMO is awesome until it is released then its unfinished. A month after release it just sucks.
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
You can swing your sword around for 15 seconds or so and be pretty confident that there isn’t any sort of ‘double crit’ mechanic taking place. If your calculated ‘crit chance’ against a particular foe is greater than 100%, you’ll crit every time (that is, every attack generates a random number between 0 and 1; if less than ‘crit chance’, you crit. If ‘crit chance’ is greater than 1, you necessarily always crit).
It’s not wasted, in the sense that it keeps your probability to crit at 100% against higher level foes and cushions you a bit against weakness, but it’s not helping a lot of the time.
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
I would so love to see your source of information dude o.O
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I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
I would so love to see your source of information dude o.O
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
I would so love to see your source of information dude o.O
I believe when you fight foes of higher than level 80, your crit chance is reduced so someone with 100% crit chance ends up with less than 100% crits, but someone with 119% crit chance may still have 100% crits (not sure what the formula for the reduction is).
Your crit chance isn’t reduced, you have a chance at a glancing blow. If you crit an attack that would be a glancing blow, it will be a normal attack instead. So having more than 100% crit still doesn’t do anything.
I would so love to see your source of information dude o.O
Why would “your logic tell you” that it would “double crit” lol?
100% = 1.
200% = 2.
Because math.
And no, i have not seen anywhere say double crit. But then again, I have not seen anywhere say crit either. Neither have you for that matter, I simply see a number displaying damage. Like the rest of you do.
Pretty obvious logic, just like when you shoot a dead body you cause them to experience a double death.
Currently 119% crit chance means that you are wasting 399 (19 * 21) precision points that could go elsewhere.
EDIT: It is like condition duration, you CAN get over 100% but the game just ignore anything over that.
Except that going over 100% duration can be useful since the game first nets your (+) duration with the enemy’s (-) duration, so if you have 140% duration and an enemy has -65% duration then your applied conditions will still be at 75% duration.
This is just my opinion on how anet think this works,
119% x (mf%*19% crit chance + some other math and numbers) = missed because of a block or dodge because they couldn’t figure out how to make that 19% work underwater
Edit : just took a sip of coffee so I can think clearer and still think what I said is pretty accurate
Your just over analyzing it.
Anything over 100% crit chance is ignored.
I doubt they’re going to add a patch so that it doesn’t display anything over 100% or just “max”.
The reason why you have the 119% is because of an error in the calculation system. Your gear is obviously boosting your crit chance, so say if base you have 79% crit chance, and your gear adds 40%, The game will still calculate out to 119% even though 100% is the max. But the system just cant make that 19% disappear or automatically put it somewhere else so it just shows that you have 19 over 100 even though that 100 is the greatest possibility.
Just think of the story of the wise man and the cup of tea
Do mobs in this game have crit mit ?
10% crit mit mob vs 100% crit player = 90% cc so so
only been playing a few weeks been playing eq/eq2 for 14 years so kinda stuck in there way of talking
Precision is converted to critical chance with a level specific constant. For example at level 80 every 21 precision equals 1 critical chance.
Based on my research, this level specific constant is based on level of the target, not level of the user. For example against level 82 target you need 22 precision for 1 critical chance. This drops ~100% critical chance to ~97 % (estimate).
So you you get reduced critical chance against higher level targets and increased critical chance against lower level targets.
3531 attack? 30k HP? 3.37k def? 210% crit dmg? That must be PvP, right? Those kinds of stats are unobtainable anywhere else (I’m only guessing, I don’t play PvP). I’m guessing you’re running.. zerker gear with what looks like assassin trinkets and Lunaria.
The expected average damage output is determined by the following formula:
Average damage = Base damage * ( 1 – Critical Chance ) + Base damage * ( Critical Chance * Critical Damage )
So while a chance above 100% sounds absurd, it might still be of some limited use. You may want to consider tuning precision down in favor of another stat.
You shouldn’t blindly follow numbers or equations. You must also keep in mind rules of the game. In this case, critical chance is capped at 100% because double criticals aren’t possible.
3531 attack? 30k HP? 3.37k def? 210% crit dmg? That must be PvP, right? Those kinds of stats are unobtainable anywhere else (I’m only guessing, I don’t play PvP). I’m guessing you’re running.. zerker gear with what looks like assassin trinkets and Lunaria.
Stats are higher in PvE, so it is most likely PvE.
You just don’t play Anet’s favorite class most likely. If you aren’t a Warrior then you can’t get those stats. Most classes need to make a trade off. I.E. high damage low survivability. Warriors just get the highest of everything.
Only armor and HP starting pool depend on the class, rest is dependant on armor, weapons, trinkets and traits. How the hell did you menage to obtain such stats?
Why would “your logic tell you” that it would “double crit” lol?
100% = 1.
200% = 2.
Because math.
“Because math.” … no… just no… This is a “chance” at something. If you have 100% chance then you will crit every time.
More than 100% chance is useless. Even if you managed to get 200% chance… then the chance is still just a guarantee that you will crit 100% of the time.
Only armor and HP starting pool depend on the class, rest is dependant on armor, weapons, trinkets and traits. How the hell did you menage to obtain such stats?
Traits is the trick here.
Warrior have the highest HP poll, in the heavy armor, with traits where part of your power is given as VIT so if you get really high power you get even more defense, and quite easy access to fury, might and crit chance, sounds reasonable, right?
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