Guild Wars 2

My nephew bought GW2 and wanted to play with me, but our server was “FULL” so he ended up transferring to another server 6 days and 23 hours before the patch because we were all going to move there. but my guild guys didn’t want us to all move. (yes that’s my kind of luck) so when my server finally wasn’t FULL (just 2 days before the patch) he couldn’t transfer because of the 7 day restriction on server transfers.

Then the patch came out and I thought I’ll just pay the 10 bucks buy the 800 gems and move him… but it’s 1800 gems!!! that is highway robbery.

Please Arena Net think about the cost to move servers and keep it real.

1800 gems is half the cost of the game just to move a server!

I love this game WvW is so fun! and it’s just too bad they don’t just add physical servers when a server is full…

and the 7 day lock out just killed it for my poor nephew.

Just my 2 copper pieces.

He can still guest on your server, or did you want to WvW together?

unless you guys are hardcore WvW you can now use guesting.

also, 1800 gems isn’t that high. Should be around 20 gold.
It’s meant to make you choose your server carefully.

We want to WvW… we enjoy that the most… plus I don’t think he can be in our guild if he is guesting…

He can be in your guild when guesting but he will not contribute to your server’s influence pool, he will start to build one on his own home server instead.

Tobo of Tyria.7329:

We want to WvW… we enjoy that the most… plus I don’t think he can be in our guild if he is guesting…

He can. Guild membership is cross-server.

omerk.2709:

unless you guys are hardcore WvW you can now use guesting.

also, 1800 gems isn’t that high. Should be around 20 gold.
It’s meant to make you choose your server carefully.

Our server was full every time he looked… so he couldn’t choose our server… They finally added servers 2 days before the patch. But again our bad luck had it that he was locked out.

You could try sending an email to support@arena.net, but I don’t know if that’ll work. You’ll have more chance than posting on the forums at least…

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

You could try sending an email to support@arena.net, but I don’t know if that’ll work. You’ll have more chance than posting on the forums at least…

That’s a great suggesstion… I will do that. /crossing fingers.

Full servers are more expensive to transfer too.

It’s not highway robbery at all, don’t be so dramatic! Given you state yourself that it’s half the cost of the game, it’s clear to me that it is cheaper to use the gems than to buy a new copy of the game – plus you get to keep your characters, so that point is moot.

Free Transfers have been there since the day the game started, and you choose a week before it goes paid to do this? Sounds like some bad communication on your half. I know it can be frustrating, and I know that guesting solves most of the issues for most people, but if WvW is what you want to primarily do then I guess that doesn’t help.

Pretty sure you will have to pay. I don’t understand why you would compare it to buying a new game though, you lose your characters and everything . I guess if he is ok with that then whatever- still seems silly to me. If you moved servers in another game it would set you back 30.00 so not sure why it is such a dramatic experience in this game.

omerk.2709:

unless you guys are hardcore WvW you can now use guesting.

also, 1800 gems isn’t that high. Should be around 20 gold.
It’s meant to make you choose your server carefully.

20 gold gets you around 900-1000 gems right now.

Fiennes.9568:

It’s not highway robbery at all, don’t be so dramatic! Given you state yourself that it’s half the cost of the game, it’s clear to me that it is cheaper to use the gems than to buy a new copy of the game – plus you get to keep your characters, so that point is moot.

Free Transfers have been there since the day the game started, and you choose a week before it goes paid to do this? Sounds like some bad communication on your half. I know it can be frustrating, and I know that guesting solves most of the issues for most people, but if WvW is what you want to primarily do then I guess that doesn’t help.

Well our server has been full since the 3 day of launch… (he got his copy on Christmas) and then just 2 days before the patch is was finally just “very high”.

800 gems is 10 bucks… 1800 gems is about $22.50 bucks… the game is 50… I’d be happy to pay 10 USD to get him moved but 25 seems excessive. Again we play WvW… I think guesting is great but it doesn’t help us. People say it’s only 20 gold but that’s a lot of gold for a casual gamer to make…

Sorry for the drama, we were just bummed out that we couldn’t get him moved in time.

That does suck, but this isn’t Anet’s fault.

He got his copy on Christmas and he waited almost a month to start? A little research you would have known about the 7 day transfer limit.

You would have also known that high population servers were going to be more expensive.

You would have also known that the population reporting is based off of who’s playing on the server at the time, not total number of accounts stored there. So if he would have tried during off-peak hours, especially with a month’s time frame, he could have easily gotten in.

The tech support won’t be able to help. You can either pay the fee (still have to transfer at off-peak hours), you can go to his server and not WvW with your guild, or you can just guest in PvE/dungeons.

omerk.2709:

unless you guys are hardcore WvW you can now use guesting.

also, 1800 gems isn’t that high. Should be around 20 gold.
It’s meant to make you choose your server carefully.

Is this part a joke?

Last I checked(yesterday) 200 gems was ~4g. That’s more like 36 gold.

As for OP: have you played other MMOs before? Just because this game doesn’t have a sub doesn’t mean things will be “less” than in other MMOs. WoW AFAIR costs $20 to move servers, $20 to change appearance, $20 to change race, etc.

It costs like ~7-8g($4.50) to change appearance in GW2. Who should be complaining again?

The high cost is to discourage players from transferring to servers which are already overpopulated.

This thing was done to prevent ppl from changing worlds basing on population and wvw rank/ who is winninh… the price, not sure, should be based anyway on the population of the server…higher it is…the more it ll cost…so…i’m sorry for him but just collect some money in guild and he ll be able to buy his transfer in no time…1 g for each person in guild is nothing, and you won’t have to pay real money…i know it’s pricey…but they gave you a free alternative too, so we can’t bother too much about cash shop things

If you think that server transfers are a highway robbery then you are totally mistaken.
Server transfer prices are perfectly fine.You pay 25$ to move all your characters.That is not even close to what blizzard takes.25$ per character transfer which will be very expensive if you want to move all your heroes.

I could say that personally Anet gave me a win win situation and I’m pretty happy about it.I pay cheaper for a server transfer than I would pay in WoW and I have more options from which to choose from.

Anet even gave me an option to decide how populated to be my server and on top of that gave me different types of paying options.Blizzard will never do that.So in total I’m pretty happy to what Anet did and I fully support them.

The cost for server transfers….

Are too kitten high.

Other games charge 25$ to change serevers and charge a monthly fee and don’t let you guest for pve. Dunno seems like an ok deal to me.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

The high cost is to discourage players from transferring to servers which are already overpopulated.

Then they should just stop server transfers.

The high cost is to generate a source of income.

Samhayn.2385:

Other games charge 25$ to change serevers and charge a monthly fee and don’t let you guest for pve. Dunno seems like an ok deal to me.

Yes it is a good deal.And even if you buy the gem pre-paid card with 2000 gems for 25$ you still have an option to not use all of them.You will be left with something even if you transfer to high populated server.If you move to some other server you will be left with even more gems and that is awesome.
500 gems – to a low populated server
1000 gems – to a medium populated server
1800 gems – to a high populated serve

I hate the Guesting Server, no point since don’t allow to join American Servers.

That most of My friends in Brazil, when i’m Portuguese, play there. This game became Region Locked.

ARGH.

somsom.5201:

omerk.2709:

unless you guys are hardcore WvW you can now use guesting.

also, 1800 gems isn’t that high. Should be around 20 gold.
It’s meant to make you choose your server carefully.

Is this part a joke?

Last I checked(yesterday) 200 gems was ~4g. That’s more like 36 gold.

As for OP: have you played other MMOs before? Just because this game doesn’t have a sub doesn’t mean things will be “less” than in other MMOs. WoW AFAIR costs $20 to move servers, $20 to change appearance, $20 to change race, etc.

It costs like ~7-8g($4.50) to change appearance in GW2. Who should be complaining again?

I agree, it is far from highway robbery. And we need something to stop the massive transfer of people/guilds so that they can have “bettter” WvW coverage.

Black Frog.9274:

Fiennes.9568:

It’s not highway robbery at all, don’t be so dramatic! Given you state yourself that it’s half the cost of the game, it’s clear to me that it is cheaper to use the gems than to buy a new copy of the game – plus you get to keep your characters, so that point is moot.

Free Transfers have been there since the day the game started, and you choose a week before it goes paid to do this? Sounds like some bad communication on your half. I know it can be frustrating, and I know that guesting solves most of the issues for most people, but if WvW is what you want to primarily do then I guess that doesn’t help.

It is definitely highway robbery. 1800 gems is ~$20 which is a ridiculous amount for updating a database field on a backend server. This game wants to push people to play together in guilds/groups, but then goes out of its way to charge you for the privilege. Clearly a money grab; no two ways about it.

Server transfer prices are perfectly fine.You pay 25$ to move all your characters.That is not even close to what blizzard takes.25$ per character transfer which will be very expensive if you want to move all your heroes

That’s why I don’t play WoW. You’ve allowed yourself to become desensitized to high prices. I bet you buy gems with real money too.

Sure, and having my car repaired is “cheap” too. The thing is…I don’t know how to do it AND I don’t have the time even if I did. Thus, I spend money to have it done.

They are charging for a convenience on something they announced AGES ago. If people didn’t listen then, well…too bad.

This logic that something is “overpriced” because X is easy to do is just plain silly. EVERYTHING is “overpriced”, yet we pay for it because there is demand.

I hope they fix the different region guesting, I have american friends :/

Black Frog.9274:

Fiennes.9568:

It’s not highway robbery at all, don’t be so dramatic! Given you state yourself that it’s half the cost of the game, it’s clear to me that it is cheaper to use the gems than to buy a new copy of the game – plus you get to keep your characters, so that point is moot.

Free Transfers have been there since the day the game started, and you choose a week before it goes paid to do this? Sounds like some bad communication on your half. I know it can be frustrating, and I know that guesting solves most of the issues for most people, but if WvW is what you want to primarily do then I guess that doesn’t help.

It is definitely highway robbery. 1800 gems is ~$20 which is a ridiculous amount for updating a database field on a backend server. This game wants to push people to play together in guilds/groups, but then goes out of its way to charge you for the privilege. Clearly a money grab; no two ways about it.

Server transfer prices are perfectly fine.You pay 25$ to move all your characters.That is not even close to what blizzard takes.25$ per character transfer which will be very expensive if you want to move all your heroes

That’s why I don’t play WoW. You’ve allowed yourself to become desensitized to high prices. I bet you buy gems with real money too.

I did bought gems for roundly 500-600 euro already, any problem with that?

25 bucks too much for you ? Come on. Wait or pay then.

They wont make the price lower becuase of few poor players

YSBT.7843:

Tobo of Tyria.7329:

We want to WvW… we enjoy that the most… plus I don’t think he can be in our guild if he is guesting…

He can. Guild membership is cross-server.

While he will be a member of the guild and I believe have access to guild chat, he will not have access to any of the guild’s functionality, including bank, guild gear vendors, guild bonuses, guild banners, etc. He will also not earn influence usable to anyone else in the guild, because influence is server-based. Unless he’s got management rights in the guild, the result of this is that the influence he earns will be unusable even to him.

Yeah right.. highway robbery

Deal with it gold isnt hard to get be happy you can avoid sending real money

They should make it 2.8k gems to transfer btw

Anyway, I think it’s pretty fair. They need the prices at this hight otherwise people would still be swapping servers to frequently. They give you a lot of options too. Compared to most other games this is a fair price.

They are B2P and need to make money. I rather have them make money of this feature than adding pay 2 win stuff.

They might do a promo some time where transferring is cheaper in the future.

Black Frog.9274:

That’s why I don’t play WoW. You’ve allowed yourself to become desensitized to high prices. I bet you buy gems with real money too.

Buying gems with real money is ANET’s business model, it’s how they sustain the game without the monthly fees like all the rest. 500/1000/1800 gems for server transfers is right on target in my opinion. The game and WvW is better off with players spread out across servers, not all packed into a couple servers with much higher populations dominating every other server using the bigger zerg theory. Keep your eye on the bigger picture here.

With the gem cost so high to transfer (approx 25 bucks or 35-40 gold) it will only encourage people to buy from gold sellers to keep this extortionate cost down.
10 bucks is fine, 25 bucks to transfer, i would say no thanks.

Call it their attempt to stop Xfers, its not, they are trying to make a killing out of this. Its going to backfire on Anet aswell as make them look like moneygrabbers.

Ohai.8346:

With the gem cost so high to transfer (approx 25 bucks or 35-40 gold) it will only encourage people to buy from gold sellers to keep this extortionate cost down.
10 bucks is fine, 25 bucks to transfer, i would say no thanks.

Call it their attempt to stop Xfers, its not, they are trying to make a killing out of this. Its going to backfire on Anet aswell as make them look like moneygrabbers.

Yes, if they were attempting to stop transfers, they would just… you know… disallow them entirely.

A scaling cost which increases based on server desirability is a weak attempt to prevent transfers indeed. The purpose is pretty obviously revenue generation. Nobody’s going to transfer to the servers that it’s cheap to transfer to, because the low cost indicates a low desirability.

Ohai.8346:

With the gem cost so high to transfer (approx 25 bucks or 35-40 gold) it will only encourage people to buy from gold sellers to keep this extortionate cost down.
10 bucks is fine, 25 bucks to transfer, i would say no thanks.

Call it their attempt to stop Xfers, its not, they are trying to make a killing out of this. Its going to backfire on Anet aswell as make them look like moneygrabbers.

Except they allow guesting which no other moneygrabbing company does. We all knew this was coming and Anet did almost everything in their power to notify you of this. You can play with any regional friend any time regardless of server. You just can’t WvW with them, which is good because WvW is dedicated to your server.

Also people don’t need encouragement to buy from gold sellers. You either do or you don’t, so then you’ll either get band or you wont. Anet is also doing the best they can to remove them from game, for two obvious reasons.

It’s a company, they need money. This isn’t some non-profit org that is putting out free games and giving you everything you want. Go find a private server for a different game if you want that.