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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

Is what it takes for a super skin. You can do the proper content and come close to enough tokens for a skin in about 2 hours having to resort to alts, or you can run cof p1 and earn the amount of money needed for pretty much every skin but the greatsword in half an hour. Add another half an hour and you got your greatsword still in half the time it would take doing speed runs with 6 alts of the SAB content.

You can substitute cof for coe and even still AC, hell even TA if you know how to skip. It would be a bit less efficient than cof, but still faster. Or farm world bosses and Penitent’s for loot bags at cursed shore.

It seems incredible how weapon skins in this game are not prestigious or a sign that you’ve done the content. Every skin outside explorable sets or fractal skins is purchasable, and it’s more efficient to farm the money to purchase them than actually do the content that drops the mats/tokens for it.

I got lucky and got my super shield skin off a chest drop — many people are not so lucky. I just wish this game would not be made ineffective by the TP because you can get anything you want from the TP without needing to play the game. Even the personal story pact weapons are up for sale.

You can nerf cof p1, but that will only make people farm the next most efficient dungeon or stick to penitent farming or open world chests. The TP renders this game’s achievement and reward systems obsolete. It’s a test of willpower to farm rather than whether you’ve actually done the content. And I feel bad for the poor guy who does the honest content while the shrewd person farming cof p1 will get the skins quicker, or the person who got the skin drop from the chest early sells it and can get 3 skins later when prices drop while the unlucky fools had to slowly repeat their way into skins.

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Posted by: KyoHanakaze.8145

KyoHanakaze.8145

OR!
I can spend those two hours doing content that I enjoy,
get my skin for free,
AND run the chance of getting a skin that I can sell at the same time.

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Posted by: Insignia.6345

Insignia.6345

Am i missing something? aren’t the skins 10g+ or did they drop recently? (Pardon my ignorance im legitimately confused here, if i can make 10g in 30 minutes please tell me how! :P )

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Posted by: chronometria.3708

chronometria.3708

Zenith raises an interesting point. I would also like to add that the chests should not be limited to one run a day. I`ll happily repeat the content, but I find it odd that I should have to make a new character over and over to do so.

As it is, I`ve got 30 of the 50 bauble bubbles I need to get my staff skin. I don’t do or enjoy dungeons as I do WvW, so I don’t have a lot of money washing about to buy things with. Even so, I could have bought it, but I wanted to hold a staff I had earned rather than simply paid cash for.

I want to say “I collected the baubles myself, by doing super adventure box and by opening chests in the open world”. However, its going to take me another few days and another few alts to be able to say that.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

OR!
I can spend those two hours doing content that I enjoy,
get my skin for free,
AND run the chance of getting a skin that I can sell at the same time.

Good for you. You’re not everyone. Repeating the content on 6 alts to get close to enough tokens for one skin is not what some call enjoyable while those farming gold get free access to items from content they haven’t even put effort into at a more efficient rate.

Am i missing something? aren’t the skins 10g+ or did they drop recently? (Pardon my ignorance im legitimately confused here, if i can make 10g in 30 minutes please tell me how! :P )

sword, shield, and staff are about 10-11g. Longbow/shortbow/scepter are 4-6g. Greatsword is 17-18g.

The prices will continue dropping as more skins accumulate, just like how they dropped for the halloween skins.

The main point of the post, however, is that you should not have access to skins from content you haven’t bothered with. Period. Crafted skins should be the only skins up for sale. Maybe black lion chest skins as well.

You should not be able to bypass content and achievement by throwing gold at things.

They should just reduce the token costs of the weapons so that farming gold isn’t a more efficient way to get them, imo.

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Posted by: Molonlabe.3761

Molonlabe.3761

It sucks to be ANet.

People will complain when there is no option.
People still complain when there are options.
People continue to complain when these options are easier/harder than they expect.

Lots of people believe that it should take “skills” to acquire certainly equipment/skin. However, the very same people often forget that it probably takes more skill to make “gold” (or, rather, real money in real life) in game.

Of course, one can always say “it is easy to make gold in GW2”, “TP trading is always easy” on an internet forum…

Then again, if that’s the case, wouldn’t you have your skins (or any things else, really) already?? If making gold is so easy, you wouldn’t be here complaining in the first place.

If, just a big if, someone makes $200 dollars an hour in real life, will it make sense for him to farm CoF for “your mighty easy 10g” an hour? Or use “the mighty skill” to farm the box for many hours?

laugh

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

It sucks to be ANet.

People will complain when there is no option.
People still complain when there are options.
People continue to complain when these options are easier/harder than they expect.

Lots of people believe that it should take “skills” to acquire certainly equipment/skin. However, the very same people often forget that it probably takes more skill to make “gold” (or, rather, real money in real life) in game.

Of course, one can always say “it is easy to make gold in GW2”, “TP trading is always easy” on an internet forum…

Then again, if that’s the case, wouldn’t you have your skins (or any things else, really) already?? If making gold is so easy, you wouldn’t be here complaining in the first place.

If, just a big if, someone makes $200 dollars an hour in real life, will it make sense for him to farm CoF for “your mighty easy 10g” an hour? Or use “the mighty skill” to farm the box for many hours?

laugh

Considering I’m halfway to my second legendary and already have my wanted super skin, this is a discussion about what an unpleasant experience it has been to discover that playing market/farmer is a more profitable way to play the game.

But feel free to continue your dismissive brown-nosing. Cute “reasonable cynics” are cute.

It’s this simple. Getting my legendary was nowhere near as fun as I expected it to be, and getting the skins wasn’t either. Because you make an activity that’s not fun for me the most efficient way to achieve these things. It’s simple — do what I like and gain things at a glacial pace, or bite the bullet and gain what I want at an actually reasonable rate.

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Posted by: RebelYell.7132

RebelYell.7132

It sucks to be ANet.

People will complain when there is no option.
People still complain when there are options.
People continue to complain when these options are easier/harder than they expect.

It’s really easy for me to see individuals who I agree or disagree with, rather than “people”. It should be even easier for a game designer who gets paid to do that kind of thing.

User was infracted for being awesome.

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Posted by: warblah.6543

warblah.6543

it’s actually a good deal if you exchange the bb for obsidian shard, meanwhile still maintain the chance to loot a skin from chest

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

it’s actually a good deal if you exchange the bb for obsidian shard, meanwhile still maintain the chance to loot a skin from chest

Karma rains like candy now, and fractal relics supplement that. If you do your daily/monthly, karma should never be an issue.

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Posted by: CrashTestAuto.9108

CrashTestAuto.9108

Whilst I do not wish to criticise ANet on this, as I love the SAB and am enjoying farming for the baubles (I want to actually earn my skin even though it would definitely be faster to farm CoF to buy one), I would have also preferred that the skins not be available on the TP (or at least that the skins had been reversed so that only the ones that had been farmed for could be sold, even if this meant no alt farming was allowed). It would be nice to have had the weapons be a badge of honour, like dungeon armour, rather than just something you can buy (fairly) cheaply on the TP.

ANet seemed to make a lot of effort in keeping the SAB content accessible to absolutely everyone, so it isn’t like people couldn’t have made the effort to get the skins “properly”, and I really like what they did with this update. I don’t want this to be taken as criticism, but my feedback on this content for future updates.