Guild Wars 2

7 day transfer limit because of concerns over WvW? Sorry but I wasn’t aware this was a PvP exclusive game, and that PvP issues dictated wether I could play with friends or not.

I could see the reasons for a 24 hour limit (although even that is a little harsh) because it’s difficult to keep track of server populations if everyone is jumping around so easily. However, this 7 day lockout is absolute nonsense. This isn’t a solution to WvW issues, a solution to that would be to add in a lockout from WvW itself when you transfer.

What this week long transfer does is just prevents people from playing with friends on differing servers, like me. The thing is that it would be fine, if guesting was implemented and wasn’t a back-bench issue despite being an allure for the game before release. Guesting isn’t implemented though, and this is entirely unfair.

Thoughts, anyone?

Or you could meet up on the same server. Wouldn’t be easier and take lesser time than to post this QQ?
It is not pvp only, but since wvw is a great mix of pe and pvp, yeah it had to fixed.

Server transfers are supposed to be so everyone can gather on the same server, not jump across servers every hour.

If you and your friends can’t decide on a single server, then just wait for guesting. There aren’t a lot of games out there where you can transfer servers for free; be glad for what you DO have.

I agree that a more fair solution would have been that you could not access WvW for X days after a server transfer, but I don’t know how hard that would be to implement.

And yes, guesting should have been here already.

But guesting is not there yet, and people were taking too much advantage of the server transfers. So SOMETHING had to be done.

Guesting would definitely solve this. I’d like to be able to guest to a lower pop. server where my friends are and not worry that I’ll never be able to get back to my home server.

That “something” couldn’t have been to lock people out of WvW for a week as opposed to server transfering?

They sold the game on the premise that the archaic days of people across differing servers having to resign themselves to not playing together, would be over via guesting. They make transfers free as a gesture to sate the people who expected guesting and didn’t get it (no mention about when that’s coming by the way.)

And not all of my friends are part of the same social circle, so demanding that they all come to my server or that we all congregate on a certain other server is ridiculous.

If guesting were up, I’d be all for a 7 day lockout period. It’s not though.

Re: Phoenix the One = It wouldn’t be easier and take less time, because you have to wait a week?

Once again, just yesterday, in a live interview, Colin Johanson reiterated their commitment to the principle that you should be able to play with your friends wherever you want.

They need to implement the pay-for model and just be done with it.

Acme Tux Serum Six.8520:

They need to implement the pay-for model and just be done with it.

They need guesting to be working and just be done with it.

If you need to move from server to server more often than every 7 days…. I’m afraid you are doing something wrong.

The unfortunate thing, is that nobody is more vocal than PvP’ers. No matter how loud we whine about the lazyness of just slapping on a 7 day transfer limit without implementing guesting first, the PvP’ers will whine louder.

@Drunken Mad King

When my buddy got the game the other day he had to pick another server because mine was full, so i went to go to his only to find that EVERY SINGLE server was at high or full status. It is a real chore trying to get all of my friends and their friends all on the same server so we can play together specially since we are never all on at the same time.

I am all fine and dandy with them charging for server transfers or limiting to 7 days a week, but not until guesting is available. As it is now, it is next to impossible to get an entire group of friends on the same server.

The best course of action for them would have been to lock people out of wvw for a week until guesting is up. Heck, the whole thing would have been better if they set this game up like the first guild wars where there was no “server” you joined, specially since zones are broken up into instances like the first game. The only difference would be to pick a “team” for wvw that you can only change for a price or once every week or so.

Fine then change it back to every 24, but now it cost money for the service. Happy?

This is a B2P game, all the monthly subscription games I have played in the past make you pay for the server transfer service.
You would think If I’m paying you monthly I would not have to pay for a server transfers. But NO!

You should be happy they do it for free period!

Sals.9534:

Fine then change it back to every 24, but now it cost money for the service. Happy?

This is a B2P game, all the monthly subscription games I have played in the past make you pay for the server transfer service.
You would think If I’m paying you monthly I would not have to pay for a server transfers. But NO!

You should be happy they do it for free period!

You have obviously never played the first guild wars which went years without any sort of outside payment things like costumes. They went purely off game sales. Right now guild wars is still completely free with only costumes and things like name changes costing money.

All other mmos charge for server transfer because they are cheapskates trying to milk more money out of you even with making you pay monthly fees.

Why so you can exploit more mining/farming? No It needs to be like this.If you and your “friends” cant understand that then there is something wrong.
If you cant come together there is an issue but it isnt with the game. This is even free for the past 2 months and shouldnt have been.
Sever pop needs to stabilize and find a correct level first then balance out merging ect a little later. By then Guesting should be up and going.

Most major changes in MMOs are come from balancing PvP. Why would this game be any different. Any game with PvP are pvp games.

My Thoughts:

1) Why are you not already playing on your friend’s server already?

2) You’ve had over a month to transfer to said friend’s server, but have yet to? Why is that? Are you even going to?

3) I’m seeing this thread less about wanting to “join friends” and more wanting to hop from server to server for some nefarious reason (possibly exploiting a farm like the early server transfer people did).

Thoughts?

Yeah, the thing about this is that (on American servers at least), all but about three of them are at near constant Full capacity. People are waiting until 4-5am to bounce around servers because thats about the only time its possible.

Its pretty safe to say that not too many people are waiting till the wee hours of the morning to transfer servers to start playing with their friends.

What are a lot of people doing? Transferring and grinding tier six mats on their server, then bouncing down to the low pop servers they can get in to and out of easily and doing the same there. Typically while farming the more rewarding mini dungeons and puzzles while they are at it.

I would bet good money that most of the posts here from people enraged they cant boucne around freely and play with their friends are really talking about their “friends” – Orichalcum and Ancient Wood.

Finaldeath.1059:

Sals.9534:

Fine then change it back to every 24, but now it cost money for the service. Happy?

This is a B2P game, all the monthly subscription games I have played in the past make you pay for the server transfer service.
You would think If I’m paying you monthly I would not have to pay for a server transfers. But NO!

You should be happy they do it for free period!

You have obviously never played the first guild wars which went years without any sort of outside payment things like costumes. They went purely off game sales. Right now guild wars is still completely free with only costumes and things like name changes costing money.

All other mmos charge for server transfer because they are cheapskates trying to milk more money out of you even with making you pay monthly fees.

No I have never played the original GW.

I guess I’m old school I have always played on one server, gotten to know people on and felt at home on one server.
I always thought the reason for the 24hour server transfers was so people could find each other after launch. Now it seems people use it as a game mechanic.

I am just simply stating that 1. you can gather what friends you can on one server. 2. keep in contact or keep in the same guild for chatting no matter which server they are on. 3. wait for guesting to occur. 4. visit a friends server 1 time a week until guesting occurs.

The problem with transfers 1 time per day creates farming issues as well as WvWvW issues. Guesting will probably also create those issues and I am sure they are trying to figure out a way to solve that.

I could simply guest at every server and farm orch and ancient wood if they allowed it (not saying I would but there are plenty of people that would).

Anet was to late with the change, the damage is already done.
To many servershave been destroyed with server transfers, its not even a fraction of the players doing WvW anymore, many of the organized WvW guilds have quit.

Many servers got filled with scrubs that made it impossible to have any kind of organization on the server, and now, their the only ones left.

Quality overall in WvW players dropped from maybe 6/10 to 2/10 on my server with free transfers

Siphaed.9235:

My Thoughts:

1) Why are you not already playing on your friend’s server already?

2) You’ve had over a month to transfer to said friend’s server, but have yet to? Why is that? Are you even going to?

3) I’m seeing this thread less about wanting to “join friends” and more wanting to hop from server to server for some nefarious reason (possibly exploiting a farm like the early server transfer people did).

Thoughts?

1) My PvE friends are PvEing on their server. I’m with my PvP friends on their server.

2) No, I’m staying with my PvP friends so we can WvW

3) Strange, I’m seeing more and more idiotic posts trying to justify Anet’s non-working guesting system. Weird huh?

Im not trying to justify anything. Thing would be neat. But it’s broke. When its not broke they will add it.

Until that time, the entirety of WvW shouldn’t be going to kitten, and all the players and bots and RMTs that are exploiting free transfers shouldn’t be allowed to keep benefiting from detrimental behavior to the economy and server communities, just so you can hop around and role play with your buddies.

You actually come off as extremely selfish and short sighted. Some enjoyment will need to be sacrificed occasionally, and some systems we like may need to be modified to maintain the integrity of the game for the long term. The server transients can find a place to sit still for a week, it’s WvW’s turn to play with the ball; they have been waiting for a while.

OP please. I get tired of hearing people say this is unfair because they want to play with friends. Well if they are friends why didnt you roll on the same server as them? If you transferred away from them then why? Guess they arn’t that good of friends to begin with.

I dont think the 7 day period is really going to help with WvW balance. I think we will see even more transfers each week as soon as people see what servers are winning.

Until they put in paid transfers you still are going to see people/guilds transferring heavily.

Also in response to Dibrom: I am not defending the fact that Anet does not have the guesting feature in yet. It is just old hearing people say they cant transfer to be with their friends anytime they want.

I LoL at this. oo you can’t jump around anytime you want boo hoo. bla this bla that.

Its all crying to be heared. even if this has been posted MANY times before new ones keep trolling up its funny. cry more. nothin will happen over night. maybe help your World instead of Jumping to the Winning world. that might be nice. but then again you have “Friends” (you know its a lie) on the other server thats’ hmm Winning? lol PVP are funny. they cry to much

Not sure this fixes the problem…. but 1 day transfers for servers you’re not WvW’ing against and 7 day transfers for the ones you are WvW’ing against?

Bruno Sardine.2907:

Not sure this fixes the problem…. but 1 day transfers for servers you’re not WvW’ing against and 7 day transfers for the ones you are WvW’ing against?

No.

People jump from several tier brackets based on ranking data and predicted matchups from various 3rd party sites. All wanting to join the next server that will dominate the opposition.

Dibrom.6408:

1) My PvE friends are PvEing on their server. I’m with my PvP friends on their server.

Just as a question, what’s stopping your PvEing friends from PvEing on the server that your PvP friends are on, or vice versa?

The idea having once a day transfers and then locking people out of wvw for Id assume a week is ridiculous and I guarantee Anet does not want that. Are we playing a different game here? Has Anet ever shown that they want to lock people out of content? At least with once a week you can wvw for the week and then switch and then can jump right back in.

wumpusrat.4769

Just as a question, what’s stopping your PvEing friends from PvEing on the server that your PvP friends are on, or vice versa?

They’re my friends, they’re not friends of eachother. I was already able to unify all my PvP friends on to 1 server; it’s not going to happen again.

No edit button so I’m going to double post.

Choosing a different server during the BWEs wasn’t an issue because Anet touted their guesting feature.

Fast forward to 2 months later and server lockdowns…

If they’d hurry up and get guesting working we wouldn’t have these problems.

Is this how AreaNet handles problems in their games? This is like putting a used ban-aid on a gaping deep cut.

Jrunyon.3012:

The idea having once a day transfers and then locking people out of wvw for Id assume a week is ridiculous and I guarantee Anet does not want that. Are we playing a different game here? Has Anet ever shown that they want to lock people out of content? At least with once a week you can wvw for the week and then switch and then can jump right back in.

Well…that’s basically what guesting is. The difference being allowing PvE transfers anytime(through guesting), and whole server transfers(hence WvW transfer) only through a fee instead of a week. ANet typically takes a hard line on any opportunities for griefing or exploiting, so technically the server transfer fee would be just that…locking you out of content.(if you define content as the same map on a different server) But they also usually keep their promises: The guesting feature, which has been alluded to many times already is the solution. Until that happens this discussion will go on endlessly…

And it is a fact that friends can be spread out among many servers belonging to different guilds. We all don’t just hang out with each other, and we all may have our own loyalties to different guilds. Myself I have friends across 5 servers, but we won’t ever see each other because we are all in our own guilds with other friends as well. This idea that a small group of friends are the only people each of them will hang out with or know is silly. It’s an interconnected web that multiplies in number the farther out you go out from yourself.

Getting to switch servers every 7 days for free is still leaps and bounds above many other games, many of which require monthly subscriptions or payed transfers (or don’t allow you to switch at all).