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A few questions regarding the forum
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
You can state anything you want, but it doesn’t stop the post from coming off as aggressive and belligerent. If you slap someone and say it’s not aggressive, it doesn’t mean you didn’t slap them.
For one thing, you’re implying posts are removed strictly because they’re negative. That’s misleading and, in fact, accusing, since most people would see that as a negative thing. But it doesn’t take into account the number of negative threads that are completely non-constructive, or just outright rude.
So yes, you can say that you’re not being aggressive, but saying is not the same thing as doing.
I can feel your anger, the hate is swelling in you now.
Seriously though passive agressive to the max.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
You can state anything you want, but it doesn’t stop the post from coming off as aggressive and belligerent. If you slap someone and say it’s not aggressive, it doesn’t mean you didn’t slap them.
For one thing, you’re implying posts are removed strictly because they’re negative. That’s misleading and, in fact, accusing, since most people would see that as a negative thing. But it doesn’t take into account the number of negative threads that are completely non-constructive, or just outright rude.
So yes, you can say that you’re not being aggressive, but saying is not the same thing as doing.
I wont argue points of views with you or how people may percieve things, in which case you seem to have percieved what i was asking as a way to instigate. so, i don’t think there is a point in continuing this.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
You can state anything you want, but it doesn’t stop the post from coming off as aggressive and belligerent. If you slap someone and say it’s not aggressive, it doesn’t mean you didn’t slap them.
For one thing, you’re implying posts are removed strictly because they’re negative. That’s misleading and, in fact, accusing, since most people would see that as a negative thing. But it doesn’t take into account the number of negative threads that are completely non-constructive, or just outright rude.
So yes, you can say that you’re not being aggressive, but saying is not the same thing as doing.
I wont argue points of views with you or how people may percieve things, in which case you seem to have percieved what i was asking as a way to instigate. so, i don’t think there is a point in continuing this.
I agree with you. In my opinion those that feel disenfranchised might find your post acceptable, but I think a lot of people will find it aggressive. But I’m not going to convince you of it, and you’re not going to convince me.
The only additional thing to say that if this post is closed, I hope you don’t just assume it’s because it’s negative.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
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Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
You can state anything you want, but it doesn’t stop the post from coming off as aggressive and belligerent. If you slap someone and say it’s not aggressive, it doesn’t mean you didn’t slap them.
For one thing, you’re implying posts are removed strictly because they’re negative. That’s misleading and, in fact, accusing, since most people would see that as a negative thing. But it doesn’t take into account the number of negative threads that are completely non-constructive, or just outright rude.
So yes, you can say that you’re not being aggressive, but saying is not the same thing as doing.
I agree with you on all but 5.
There is a huge difference between asking a question and committing assault and battery.
The post coming off as belligerent may very well be you reading into it.
When the thread is either locked or removed, you will likely feel you have been vindicated.
I think, though, you know it is against forum rules. Perusing said rules will inform you of the correct venue to ask your questions.
Good luck.
To directly address Gaile Gray in The ArenaNet Forum Communications team, i would ask a few questions:
#1: Will the players ever get a chance to type directly to the devs and give our input on things happening in game?
#2: Are the communications between forum moderators and the players hostile enough to warrent a lack of communication?
#3: How do you see the guild wars 2 community now from what it was at the launch?
#4: Does voicing our opinions on things being changed in game mean we are against Anet and therefore deserve to have our posts removed?
And #5: On the note of posts being removed, since i am asking you these questions not out of spite or anger. but more out of wanting to genuinely know the truth, will this post be removed for addressing a Anet staff or for unneeded hostility?
I know you want an answer from Gaile, however the likelihood of any dev, not just Gaile, is low. It’s not because of bad reasons. I’ts just unreasonable to expect a dev response every time one is asked because there are so few of them and so many of us. Plus we have no idea what other responsibilities he may have. So that statement pretty much answers your first question.
To your second question, it does not really make any sense. The moderators do not actually speak to us. Their job is not to respond to threads but to monitor them to make sure that the conversation in the threads do not become out of hand. A prime example of this is a mod closed a thread about some guy who was complaining that you now need a PAX pass to go see Anet when before you did not need one. The guy was blaming Anet, stating they were purposely locking people out. The mod explained that the need for a PAX pass was not Anet’s decision, but one made by PAX. The mod then closed the thread because needlessly bashing anyone, not just Anet, is against the rules. Of course he opens another thread about it and I’m sure it was closed not too long after that for breaking the rules.
I can not answer number 3.
As to 4, absolutely not. Go look on the GW2 HoT forums. There are a few complaint threads that have been up there, and every now and again the DragonHunter name feedback thread tends to pop up on the front page every now and again. Right now it is not, but I’m sure in another week or two it will be back on the front. It’s not that negative feedback is bad, it’s how you give that feedback. If you come on the forums saying “Ugh this <x> is stupid. Anyone who likes <x>is stupid. Anet is an kitten for changing to <x>” then yea that is not how you give good feedback. It would seem like we need some kind of thread that demonstrates how to give good feedback, and then have someone sticky the thread so that it is always on the front page for everyone to see when they come to the forums. /sarcasm
To question 5, I don’t think so. As long as the conversation remains positive, and not resort to name calling, it should stay. Now will a dev respond to it? Highly unlikely. Does that mean that Anet does not listen to the community and ignores us? No. It just means that the staff can’t always respond to people and still expect to get their own jobs done.
To directly address Gaile Gray in The ArenaNet Forum Communications team, i would ask a few questions:
#1: Will the players ever get a chance to type directly to the devs and give our input on things happening in game?
#2: Are the communications between forum moderators and the players hostile enough to warrent a lack of communication?
#3: How do you see the guild wars 2 community now from what it was at the launch?
#4: Does voicing our opinions on things being changed in game mean we are against Anet and therefore deserve to have our posts removed?
And #5: On the note of posts being removed, since i am asking you these questions not out of spite or anger. but more out of wanting to genuinely know the truth, will this post be removed for addressing a Anet staff or for unneeded hostility?
I know you want an answer from Gaile, however the likelihood of any dev, not just Gaile, is low. It’s not because of bad reasons. I’ts just unreasonable to expect a dev response every time one is asked because there are so few of them and so many of us. Plus we have no idea what other responsibilities he may have. So that statement pretty much answers your first question.
To your second question, it does not really make any sense. The moderators do not actually speak to us. Their job is not to respond to threads but to monitor them to make sure that the conversation in the threads do not become out of hand. A prime example of this is a mod closed a thread about some guy who was complaining that you now need a PAX pass to go see Anet when before you did not need one. The guy was blaming Anet, stating they were purposely locking people out. The mod explained that the need for a PAX pass was not Anet’s decision, but one made by PAX. The mod then closed the thread because needlessly bashing anyone, not just Anet, is against the rules. Of course he opens another thread about it and I’m sure it was closed not too long after that for breaking the rules.
I can not answer number 3.
As to 4, absolutely not. Go look on the GW2 HoT forums. There are a few complaint threads that have been up there, and every now and again the DragonHunter name feedback thread tends to pop up on the front page every now and again. Right now it is not, but I’m sure in another week or two it will be back on the front. It’s not that negative feedback is bad, it’s how you give that feedback. If you come on the forums saying “Ugh this <x> is stupid. Anyone who likes <x>is stupid. Anet is an kitten for changing to <x>” then yea that is not how you give good feedback. It would seem like we need some kind of thread that demonstrates how to give good feedback, and then have someone sticky the thread so that it is always on the front page for everyone to see when they come to the forums. /sarcasm
To question 5, I don’t think so. As long as the conversation remains positive, and not resort to name calling, it should stay. Now will a dev respond to it? Highly unlikely. Does that mean that Anet does not listen to the community and ignores us? No. It just means that the staff can’t always respond to people and still expect to get their own jobs done.
+1 on input here, this is the type of constructive critisizm i was hoping for.
“Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/rules
I’d agree with other commenters- even though you said that you ask out of curiosity, the kind of questions seem to have negative, emotional undertones.
Moreover, it’s quite possible that Gaile won’t be able to answer due to company policy. Sometimes not answering such things is for the best as giving a response can be used as ammunition to be redirected back at A-net, or words can be taken out of context and be used to mislead.
Answers to your questions, even though I’m not Gaile.
1. No. Players will not get a chance to interact directly with devs. Considering there are hundreds of thousands of players, and not as many devs, that would be completely unworkable and unreaslistic. Forums are how you communicate with devs, unless you’re lucky enough to meet one at a con or something.
2. I don’t really understand the question. Forum moderators don’t generally communicate. Are you asking if the conflict between forum moderators and the playerbase is affected how devs communicate? I find that unlikely.
3. Gaile would have to answer that one herself.
4. There are enough negative posts that remain up for long periods of time to make this comment at the very least disingenuous. Posts are removed for many reasons, and disagreeing with Anet isn’t usually one of them. However, unconstructive posts or posts that are offensive in some way are sometimes removed yes.
5. This post, in my opinion, absolutely should be removed. It’s misleading, unnecessarily confrontational and just adding a line like this is combative. If I were a mod, I’d remove it immediately.
I will state as i did in the post, no hostilities intended in this. which includes that last line.
You can state anything you want, but it doesn’t stop the post from coming off as aggressive and belligerent. If you slap someone and say it’s not aggressive, it doesn’t mean you didn’t slap them.
For one thing, you’re implying posts are removed strictly because they’re negative. That’s misleading and, in fact, accusing, since most people would see that as a negative thing. But it doesn’t take into account the number of negative threads that are completely non-constructive, or just outright rude.
So yes, you can say that you’re not being aggressive, but saying is not the same thing as doing.
I agree with you on all but 5.
There is a huge difference between asking a question and committing assault and battery.
The post coming off as belligerent may very well be you reading into it.
5 isn’t belligerent 4 is. 5 is a passive aggressive attempt at manipulation to get the mods to keep the thread open or trying to make them look bad if they close it.