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A huge difference.
It is probably one of the better mmo’s atm
But I was looking for a sequel to another game that was quite different
And telling people to shut up will get you exactly the opposite
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Yes, there is a huge difference between what you typed and what the moderator typed.
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Didn’t I kill you in Final Fantasy 12… its been a while. Always liked your hair…
They had to SPAWN MORE OVERFLOWS!
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Didn’t I kill you in Final Fantasy 12… its been a while. Always liked your hair…
Pretty sure it’s a LoL name.
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Didn’t I kill you in Final Fantasy 12… its been a while. Always liked your hair…
Pretty sure it’s a LoL name.
See? There you are… http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/12vayne2.jpg
They had to SPAWN MORE OVERFLOWS!
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Yadda yadda, you act like you can stop criticism and whatever but it’s part of a game’s development and it’s not going to go away. Obviously they aren’t going to address every complaint, suggestion and so on but there are many that should and need to be still. It’s their job to decide which and what to do with them.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
So, critique = automatically wrong and praise = correct? If there’s nothing but praise, there’ll be no improvement. I do agree that a lot of people are just venting their anger, but on these forums, there’s a good deal of good feedback and suggestions to improve the game. I’d also claim that most people that are bitter towards the direction GW2 is taking are fans who want it to be better and more to their liking (such as myself).
If anything it’s the “if you don’t like it shut up and stop playing” attitude that stops the game from getting better. There’s always room for constructive criticism and the solution to problems is not shutting your ears and shouting LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU THIS GAME IS TEH BEST.
I see a lot of complaining in-game so what’s the point of this thread? XD
Although: Yes, GW2 is the best, despite all it’s flaws, but we’re supposed to find those flaws and bring them into attention so that the game is improved. Would be nice to get all my friends to actually want to play again instead of telling me there’s nothing to do anymore or that their frustrated with all the bugs, temp content instead of perm content and the creeping grindyness.
The logical problem with your thought process is that you assume the complaints are correct and that listening to them will make the game better. Players aren’t developers and often what they want and ask for would be worse.
The problem is people don’t know the difference between their opinion and objective fact.
The difference is the people complaining don’t have nearly the stake in the game as the company who financed it or the developers themselves.
So maybe they make the changes and your friends come back and they lose an half a million people in the process.
Just because you and your friends like something a certain way, doesn’t make that way better. And it doesn’t mean there aren’t tons of people who would hate that game and not want to play it.
Anet made a game. If you don’t like it, by all means, don’t play it.
But too many suggestions are out there that either won’t make the game better at all, or simply aren’t compatible with the game as it stands now.
Didn’t I kill you in Final Fantasy 12… its been a while. Always liked your hair…
Pretty sure it’s a LoL name.
See? There you are… http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/12vayne2.jpg
Actually I didn’t like and never played FF and certainly have nothing to do with LoL so you’re both wrong.
I just wish I knew before I started using the name back in Rift that Vayne was a woman in LoL. lol
I love how people misinterpret my posts.
I didn’t say anything about praise is good and criticism is bad.
The OP made a statement about the community and how negative it is. It’s certainly more negative on the forums than in game. This I believe to be true.
A lot of the people posting here have stated straight out that they’ve stopped playing the game or they’ve given up on the game. Obviously the game has moved in a direction they don’t like. But Anet has said repeated that that’s the direction and this is what they’re doing to do.
Now, here’s where the problem lies in my opinion. There are still people on these forums complaining about vertical progression when Anet will not be removing vertical progression and has said so. It’s not going away. You can complain till the cows come home. This ceased to be a valid criticism. It just becomes a complaint…and complaint threads aren’t allowed.
It is entirely possible that the game changed directions and when it did, back in November of the year it launched, Anet offered refunds…people played this game for six months and got refunds.
So anyone here still complaining about it, could have left at got a refund months after this change was made. Many people did.
To continue to complain about it, or the fact that the game doesn’t have a trinity (when in fact that’s why many people play it), or the fact that it doesn’t match the manifesto 100%, when the manifesto is three years old…this stuff is ludicrous
There’s a big difference between saying we need more build variety (which we do) than saying this game’s combat sucks because it doesn’t have the trinity.
The problem is, people continue to post trinity threads when there are dozens of games that have the trinity. They want this game to have the trinity TOO. They want to take the existing (and in this case as advertised game), away from people who enjoy the game as it is.
I’ve left this forum, more or less, for the reddit forum, which isn’t policed by Anet moderators, and you know…the community does a fine job of policing itself. And I don’t have problems with 99% of what is said their, complaint or not complaint.
Hell I’ve had my own issues over time and I’ve posted about them but everyone ignores them. They’d rather call me a fan boy, so that when I disagree with them they can try to dismiss me without logic at all.
But other people are reading, people without that same agenda, and to many of those people, I’m not so easy to dismiss.
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go buy lottery dude, you struck gold!