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I think it had to do something with them having to check for every interaction with armors so that they wouldnt clip or interact in some other weird ways with other stuff.
Also because they have been selling armor parts as stand-alone for quite a while at 400-500 gems, if they were to release 6 parts for the price of 700 gems there would be OUTRAGES on the forums and everyone would demand a refund or compensation of some sort
tl;dr doesnt make profit, angry costumers, too lazy to test clipping.
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Sell them at 800 gems, as was the standard in the beginning.
Its just irritating to all hell, because they don’t want to fix this and give us this feature back. If HoT is nothing but more outfits, i dare to say that my involvment in this game will dwindle to nothing. Its THAT frustrating to me.
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When it comes to aesthetic sense, I have infinitely more confidence in anet designers team. Not all outfits are exceptional. Also, I’ve seen horrors that hurt my eyes, coming from ‘creative’ players.
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Let them both be.
Bit of advice, if you feel this strongly about something – change the title to something more related and more constructive. Avoid the use of hyperbole in your posts as well. Saying they WILL DRIVE YOUR CUSTOMERS AWAY, when they have the pure metrics and facts at their ready disposal to make that judgement themselves is not going to help any cause.
Funny thing is there are people like me that want to spend real money on new gem store armors but we can’t. Because outfits. No mix’n’match value, everybody looks the same and they are really nothing cool from esthetic point of view (opinion so don’t rage me kids and fanboys).
And no, carapace armor isn’t the answer to our needs.
That’s ridiculous.
Also, I’ve seen horrors that hurt my eyes, coming from ‘creative’ players.
This.
I also prefer armors over outfits, mostly because I can chose exactly where the dye go.
But armors mixes are inferior to full armor sets 90% of the time.
People doing them don’t even realize that a dye doesn’t have the same color on all parts …
I am not completely against mixes (I even have one character with one, and had one on another character for a while), but they are rarely a choice over a full set, and I don’t really understand why people clamor that much about them.
If outfits were armor skins, I would probable buy some. Since they are not, I simply ignore them and use the ones I already have. No creative value in static, predefined looks.
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I only bought Lich outfit because… hooves! However I never use it unless I’m leveling a new character. All my chars are mix-n-match.
I think the people raging over Outfits need to relax and put things in perspective a bit…
Lets look at just what is in the Gem store, shall we?
18 outfits total. 9 of which currently available in the Gem Store.
21 full sets of armor (of varying weights) 33 individual armor pieces (gloves, boots, shoulders and helms.)
And 6 back pieces which can be used with everything. All available on the Gem store.
And this isn’t even touching all the armor pieces available in the game, that don’t cost a single Gem.
Hmm… Doesn’t look like they are overdoing Outfits to me.
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… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
If you do the maths with NEW armor and NEW outfits, those numbers will change. I personally couldn’t care less if they keep throwing more outfits, it’s simple, if I don’t like them, I don’t buy them.
Am I disappointed everytime a new look comes out and it is an outfit? Yes.
An outfit or armor being new does not matter. The overall total still stands.
Armor available in the game, via gem store or otherwise, -vastly- outnumbers the number of outfits they have made.
“If half as many people were half as brave in real life as they were online…
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
Just dont buy any outfit. If enough people not buy them they have no choice but offer mix and matchable sets again.
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Anet is too busy programming gemstore items to bother with actual armor and checking that the pieces don’t clip with each other, so we get outfits (not to mention that they are more precious gemstore items).
The biggest problem are the people buying the outfits with cash>gems. They are out there in large enough quantity that Anet doesn’t have to give a kitten about what people complain about on the forums. So we’re stuck with outfits.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
An outfit or armor being new does not matter. The overall total still stands.
Armor available in the game, via gem store or otherwise, -vastly- outnumbers the number of outfits they have made.
So that makes it fine for arenanet to stop adding to our choice of armors?
Will you still be making this argument when we have 50 gemstore outfits and still only 21 armors?
The overall total is utterly insignificant.
We want greater freedom for character design—which the influx of outfits takes away.
An outfit or armor being new does not matter. The overall total still stands.
Armor available in the game, via gem store or otherwise, -vastly- outnumbers the number of outfits they have made.So that makes it fine for arenanet to stop adding to our choice of armors?
Will you still be making this argument when we have 50 gemstore outfits and still only 21 armors?
The overall total is utterly insignificant.
We want greater freedom for character design—which the influx of outfits takes away.
The problem with that argument is that Anet has not stopped adding to our choice of armors.
Where is the evidence that Anet will just stop making armor sets?
And even if they did (which I very much doubt they will, since they continue to make more armor pieces and sets) they have a /very/ long way to go before Outfits outnumber armors.
And lastly…
Just because you want to disregard the hundreds of armor pieces in the game that don’t require any gems to buy does not make them magically go away or not count.
“If half as many people were half as brave in real life as they were online…
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
Outfits are great for players who don’t have the skills needed to mix and match as well as dye the result in a pleasing manor. Plus you can swap between them for free and they can cover up a mix of armors that don’t go together pleasantly. Plus slapping on an outfit early on means you can look good while leveling without burning through a ton of transmutation charges.
For Anet, they don’t need to test another set of armor against every other combination for horrible clipping issues. Every armor piece added increases the combinations exponentially and that’s ignoring race and height/body type combinations as well.
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So here is an idea, allow us to purchase an armor set and then add it to the outfit locker, but also add each individual piece to the skin locker, both parties satisfied (may take a bit more work though).
So here is an idea, allow us to purchase an armor set and then add it to the outfit locker, but also add each individual piece to the skin locker, both parties satisfied (may take a bit more work though).
That… probably would take a lot of work, yeah.
“If half as many people were half as brave in real life as they were online…
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
So here is an idea, allow us to purchase an armor set and then add it to the outfit locker, but also add each individual piece to the skin locker, both parties satisfied (may take a bit more work though).
That… probably would take a lot of work, yeah.
I can’t see any problem here. They’re paid for their work.
And I admit the solution suggested by jerkic would make me open my wallet very wide.
I bought (with gold) the imperial outfit for my main just because she’s been stuck with the same armour since a few month after launch. Didn’t realise it would even take over even the head slot (my Sylvari looks goofy without her Baroque mask). So into the ‘new without tags’ wardrobe it goes. Not a fan GW2 version of onesies and won’t be buying another.
Even GW had at least 2 options for costumes, head and body, can’t Anet at least do that for us?
Outfits are great for players who don’t have the skills needed to mix and match as well as dye the result in a pleasing manor.
What skill is involved in choosing a set of armor skins and/or colors that please you? As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, all you’ve got to do is pick skins and dyes that you like, so I’m failing to see where skill comes into play in this regard.
So here is an idea, allow us to purchase an armor set and then add it to the outfit locker, but also add each individual piece to the skin locker, both parties satisfied (may take a bit more work though).
That… probably would take a lot of work, yeah.
I can’t see any problem here. They’re paid for their work.
And I admit the solution suggested by jerkic would make me open my wallet very wide.
I didn’t say it was a problem, per se. Hell, I’d be ecstatic if they did that.
Just saying, yeah, that would probably take a lot of work.
“If half as many people were half as brave in real life as they were online…
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
… The human race would never have to worry about be oppressed again.”
I think trolls should have their computers smashed. ’Its all part of the game. U mad bro?’
Reason is simple: 1 outfit across all armor types(male and female/5 races) = 700 gems.
With armor, they have to do 3 sets(male and female/5 races) and all the seams, layers, everything has to be just so to work with the other pieces. Heck, most of the time they don’t even add tail slots for Charr or proper horn/ear slots for Charr or Asura and they get 800 gems per set for that.
The outfits are easier to make(time wise). I don’t want to detract from the awesome work they do, but it has to be a magnitude less work to do an outfit over armor sets. I agree though, I would rather have armor sets.
Why don’t they do it this way instead: Make outfits into 6 pieces wearable by all armor types?
That seems to me the best compromise.
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I bought (with gold) the imperial outfit for my main just because she’s been stuck with the same armour since a few month after launch. Didn’t realise it would even take over even the head slot (my Sylvari looks goofy without her Baroque mask). So into the ‘new without tags’ wardrobe it goes. Not a fan GW2 version of onesies and won’t be buying another.
Even GW had at least 2 options for costumes, head and body, can’t Anet at least do that for us?
I agree, I would love to have the ability to have the head slot and the back slot overlay on an outfit.
Reason is simple: 1 outfit across all armor types(male and female/5 races) = 700 gems.
With armor, they have to do 3 sets(male and female/5 races) and all the seams, layers, everything has to be just so to work with the other pieces. Heck, most of the time they don’t even add tail slots for Charr or proper horn/ear slots for Charr or Asura and they get 800 gems per set for that.
The outfits are easier to make(time wise). I don’t want to detract from the awesome work they do, but it has to be a magnitude less work to do an outfit over armor sets. I agree though, I would rather have armor sets.
Why don’t they do it this way instead: Make outfits into 6 pieces wearable by all armor types?
That seems to me the best compromise.
Wait, what??? So your opinion on this is that they shouldn’t work kitten armor sets, so they work kitten everything else? Really? You’d settle for that?
So if i go to McDonalds and i buy a hamburger and the bread is cooked, but the burger itself is halfway raw, thats ok? Because i want quality bread, and i’m no so worried about the meat? How kittened does that sound?
I’m not playing an entitled part here or expressing an entitled opinion. I just want quality work on all ends, since they have “teams” of people working on this stuff.
I won’t buy the outfits, at all. I like some of them, but i can’t mix and match and i won’t condone their “new” design philosophy that seriously borders the line of mediocrity.
If you enjoy them, thats fine. But i don’t, and thus the only thing i can do is complain, since voting with my wallet appears to have little effect on the situation.
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Yep, must agree that on the outfits thing. Never bought an outfit nor will I ever. Having the same look as everyone else makes for a bland landscape. Every one of my characters are fitted out in mixed armour to an aesthetic that suits my eye. I constantly poke about in the armour locker looking for different combinations of armours that would suit my character, then plan ahead on doing some world explo for charges. Sure, it’ll take a while to get all the charges for a full suit change, but I’m patient.
Also, I think the point is that a lot of the newer releases have been outfits over armours. The total number of outfits vs armours is lower but the trend has been outfits over full suits of armour or at most armour pieces that are released in 1’s or 2’s. The Scarlet shoulders and gloves, Dragon helm, shoulders and gloves, Lawless boots and gloves are examples. We’ve not seen a full gem store armour suit in a while but granted we did get the carapace and luminescent sets. Not such a huge fan of the glowy armour but the carapace set is very nice indeed. Been using pieces of it here and there on my warr, thief and necro.
Also, I’ve seen horrors that hurt my eyes, coming from ‘creative’ players.
Then avert your eyes.
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