Guild Wars 2

Will we still be able to select adept traits in the master or grandmaster trait slots?

from the looks of things no

From: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-one-a-primer/

“…a character will be able to select a single trait for each tier to help customize that specialization. By locking traits to tiers and reducing the overall number of traits, we’ve made each choice much more compelling.”

Locked by tier.

Kumion.7580:

From: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-one-a-primer/

“…a character will be able to select a single trait for each tier to help customize that specialization. By locking traits to tiers and reducing the overall number of traits, we’ve made each choice much more compelling.”

Locked by tier.

Sounds a lot like the old system where you had to put 30 trait points in the line in order to receive a Grandmaster, but even then you could only pick just one.

The problem is that i use a full trait line on my mesmer and in that line i have no grandmaster trait, instead i use master trait on that slot because it fits my play-style.

If we cant use lower tier traits on higher tier trait slots we’re forced to choose between traits, rather than using the combination we want.

:(

You might desire the new traits that are coming, more than the old ones you used before. Thus, the sad-face may be premature.

It may be best to wait until all information is released. =)

Also they have mentioned traits will be merged, shifted, or altered to skills. Wait for more info.

I mean, I understand some skepticism, but why not wait until you know how this is actually going to work before getting bent out of shape? With the re-worked traits, this may work out in everyone’s favor. Beyond that, they could be buffing the snot out of the GM/Ma traits to make them more desirable than the adept would ever be.

I feel like there’s a lot of grumbling that could be for naught at the moment.

They’re apparently still convinced that everything is too complicated and hard in the game so they’re simplifying every system and putting players on rails.

They don’t seem to get that people who play RPGs like some level of complexity because it helps you feel invested in the game, resulting in better immersion and compelling gameplay. All these changes do is drive off RPG fans while failing to bring non-RPG fans into the game.

I’m not raging as we simply don’t have enough information yet, but I’m not happy about the idea of being forced into utilizing the trait system in a very specific way and losing the ability to have freeform builds. It’s like hiring a smart person to do a job and then stifling them with micromanagement. It. doesn’t. work.

RodrigoEu.6701:

Will we still be able to select adept traits in the master or grandmaster trait slots?

No, you only need to look at the picture to see exactly how that’s going to work. You get three clusters of three traits. Rather than choosing from a drop down you just have the three options at that spot and nothing else.

I guess i’ll wait and see what else Arena Net says about the new trait system…

Wait like 2.5 hours and you’ll have your answer on the live stream.

Well, i guess it’s not as bad as i was thinking…
Some Traits are actually better!
They might still improve it and maybe then i wont have problems with 2 traits on the same tier.

RodrigoEu.6701:

The problem is that i use a full trait line on my mesmer and in that line i have no grandmaster trait, instead i use master trait on that slot because it fits my play-style.

If we cant use lower tier traits on higher tier trait slots we’re forced to choose between traits, rather than using the combination we want.

:(

Same, and I am very worried about this for the same reason.

Let’s hope they don’t destroy our builds…
:/